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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 8:29:57 AM

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why does kirstie alley dress that way? has anyone else noticed those layers of fabric she wears and these strange "gowns" that are like designed to make her look thinner or something but don't. That jenny craig commercial is ridiculous. One minute she's harping about how happy she is being fat the next minute she's on jenny craig lol.

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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 10:41:45 AM

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why does kirstie alley dress that way? has anyone else noticed those layers of fabric she wears and these strange "gowns" that are like designed to make her look thinner or something but don't. That jenny craig commercial is ridiculous.

I agree with you that I think they dress her terribly. I hate the fashionistas that dress bigger women in ridiculous ugly layers because we're supposed to be hiding our bodies in shame. I think nowadays there are plenty of beautiful clothes for all sizes so that women don't have to dress like they're hiding; I still think we can't/shouldn't wear everything (cut off shirts look bad, and too much spandex), but there are plenty of awesome clothes and shoes. M

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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 11:55:14 AM

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I think the goal there is to look like your clothes are making you look fat. That way, people will think you're not as fat as you look, or something like that.

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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 3:38:58 PM

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Jenny, Those weight loss stuff can be dangerous. Hydroxy cut was recalled because ephedra in it.

Those slim fast comercials were always dumb and in the bottom of the page it says resulrts not typical.

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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 9:22:26 PM

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I think the goal there is to look like your clothes are making you look fat. That way, people will think you're not as fat as you look, or something like that.

How retarded is that idea? Why would I want to look bigger than I am, so to give people the impression that I just *look* bigger, winks... M

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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 9:30:27 PM

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No one said it was a good idea ... just that the thought seems to be there ... who knows where, when or why it started, but it seems to be a bit like the people who try to fit their rolls into clothes that are at least 3 sizes too small and then putting a loose shirt over it (and I'm not talking about wearing a shirt over a corset, I'm talking about the people who should be wearing 24-26 size jeans wearing 20s or smaller and tight fitting shirts). They are obviously uncomfortable in the clothes, plus they aren't hiding anything, the fat just squishes out between the waistband of the pants and the bottom of the shirt, which rolls up under their boobs. I have a cousin who used to do that ... she finally started wearing clothes that fit her about 2 years ago, and you know what? Her self confidence went up and she managed to lose some of the weight that she had been fighting with for 20+ years once she quit wearing things that would NEVER look good on her.

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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 11:33:33 PM

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seems to be a bit like the people who try to fit their rolls into clothes that are at least 3 sizes too small and then putting a loose shirt over it (and I'm not talking about wearing a shirt over a corset, I'm talking about the people who should be wearing 24-26 size jeans wearing 20s or smaller and tight fitting shirts). They are obviously uncomfortable in the clothes, plus they aren't hiding anything, the fat just squishes out between the waistband of the pants and the bottom of the shirt, which rolls up under their boobs. I have a cousin who used to do that

Yuck, always looks awful. How about the people that are soo intent on being smaller, they insist on borrowing your smaller clothes?..
I just cannot be that uncomfortable in order to be in smaller size.. M

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RE: Fat... - 5/12/2005 11:39:13 PM

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Yeah, and then after they borrow your clothes that are too small for them, they are all stretched out and too big for you - and they get pissy the next time that they want to wear your clothes and you won't let them LOL

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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 10:00:52 AM

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im not sure if A/anyone has said this yet but if allyC is fat count me in! She is one of the most gorgeous real life women ive seen here!!! seriously...
the things that i dislike about being fat are when things hang, stretch, overlap and bulge... and the difficulty in covering that up during nude play! fortunately i have a very accepting group of friends that honestly don't care and boost my self confidence with their lack of judgement. it's easy to say 'i don't care what they think' but hard to tow the line...
hopefully my loving, sexy, submissive aura shines through and supersedes!
here's a question for you: how do you not only tell someone in a personal ad what your height/weight/size is but how you honestly feel about it? do you just put the facts and figures (pun intended) down on paper and let them bring it up if they feel like it or do you expound on your feelings? i personally have always put a sentence or two saying something like "im a big girl and i prefer big men to make me feel vulnerable and demure" to convey that it's not just a lack of self confidence but a sexual preference as well.
and do you limit yourself to partners of the same size and shape? id like to say i don't but it usually works out that way.
positive energies A/all ;)
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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 10:41:02 AM

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im not sure if A/anyone has said this yet but if allyC is fat count me in! She is one of the most gorgeous real life women ive seen here!!!

i said it! lol...she is very beautiful! i don't usually get this impressed by peoples looks, specially women lol....but she is stunning! and her personality seems just as impressive.

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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 11:29:26 AM

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it's easy to say 'i don't care what they think' but hard to tow the line...
hopefully my loving, sexy, submissive aura shines through and supersedes!

It sounds to me like you're a fun/cool person, and that matters more than your weight.

quote:

here's a question for you: how do you not only tell someone in a personal ad what your height/weight/size is but how you honestly feel about it? do you just put the facts and figures (pun intended) down on paper and let them bring it up if they feel like it or do you expound on your feelings? i personally have always put a sentence or two saying something like "im a big girl and i prefer big men to make me feel vulnerable and demure" to convey that it's not just a lack of self confidence but a sexual preference as well.

Two issues covered here I think: 1)Yes sometimes I do put the facts and figures down on paper, though I ususally feel my exact weight is no one's business, but I do like to let people see exactly what I look like so they can decide weather or not they can start drooling over me immediately.
2)You're attracted to bigger guys, that is your choice, so that if someone contacts you or talks to you, and you find you're not attracted, than it's your prerogative to verbalize that, though I would just simply say "I don't feel that certain je ne sais quoi" instead of you skinny lil wimp get away from me, lol..
I have usually dated/married skinnier or muscular men, feel I'm attracted to most body types (though not extremes of any type)... I don't tend to be attracted to guys who are larger than me, but most of the time when chemistry isn't working, it's related to character or lack of chivalry to give me warm fuzzies. Sometimes, I have no idea why the chemistry is not working.. Well enough babbling from me. M

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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 12:40:33 PM

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Thinking about this topic, I wonder if you women would comment on what you are attracted to Bigger or thinner men???
Does it matter to you when a guy emails you and has one set of stats in his profile, but than sends you photos or stats in email, and weighs 30 or more pounds than he stated on profile?
It bugs me, but noticing and mentioning it makes me feel a lil guilty/shallow... Wondering about others, how you deal with it. M

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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 12:52:08 PM

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As everyone who has seen pictures of my partner you know that I like them a little on the bigger side.
He never lied to me about his size, but that is because I was looking for someone larger and he knew that before he told me his size.
He outweighs me by a good 100 pounds, but I don't mind in the least, I like it very much

I have other pictures of him, but I don't know if everyone would want to see him with his shirt off

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RE: The Way It ought to be - 5/13/2005 2:57:43 PM

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For me it's a very different experience. I do NOT want to be fat, but I have chosen to be. I know I have chosen to be because I do not do the things I KNOW will make me not fat.

I don't see anything wrong in wanting to look and feel better- both of which I know will happen if I lose weight. Yes, I think pressure to be perfect and fit into some mold is bad, and people should not be made to feel less because of their bodies, but I know I would be a happier person if I lost weight.

I also know the Owner prefers not-fat women.

I'm not ready to say that "fatness" is or is a symptom of disease. I understand the health issues involved in people with hormonal imbalances, and I understand the effects of depression on someone. But there's a very small step from saying "most people can't control their weight" to people not TRYING to control their weight.

I would simply like to highlight how brilliant I find this post. It's all a question of priorities and effort.

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RE: Let's get a sense of balance here - 5/13/2005 3:49:11 PM

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If you think that people are not refused employment because they are overweight (even when their weight is NOT a factor to the job) and if you think that people do not get fired because of size prejudice, then you need to walk a mile or two on the other side of the fence.

Having lost 50lbs now over the last 7 months has made me realise just how differently fat people and not-so-fat people are treated. I'm still over the weight I desire to be (another 30lbs or so to go) but already, people approach me in a completely different manner. It is shocking to be honest.

I agree with you allyC that there is no contest here. Persecution is persecution and we our own hell always seems worse then anyone's. That's normal. The thing is, that there is a societal stigma that because fat people *can* change their weight and chose not to that there is something wrong with them. You can't change the fact that you were born Black, Jewish, Homosexual (at least not according to the current popular theories). But just because you *can* technically do something about your weight, you should. Forget about the will power that it takes. Forget about how hard it is. Forget about the support system you need to do it. Forget about all the tools you need to acquire. We are losers if we don't, right?

I'm 32 years old and I've been overweight since I was 12. I've had thinner moments. My last one was when I was 24. That was the last time I was a size 12, well besides now. If it was just a question of doing it, a strong woman like me would have been thin all her life. Everyday I have to find the strength to continue in this battle.

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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 3:54:33 PM

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Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

You have to remember though that what was a 16 back then is now a size 8 or a little smaller.

Actually, more like a size 12. See this snopes article.

For the record, she weighed at her heaviest 140 and wore a size 12. I weigh 185 and wear a size 12. I obviously have a bigger frame and more muscle mass then Ms Monroe did.

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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 3:56:16 PM

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I hate Zaftig and Rubenesque too. Large and Lovely sucks all the same. Who ever thought that Large and Lovely was in any way, shape or form flattering should be killed. Ruben’s women were all weird shaped and sort of vacant looking. They all look about 3, maybe 4 month’s pregnant. There is nothing going on in their expressions. The lights aren’t even on let alone anyone being home.

Damn! I love Rubenesque!! And I love his paintings. Matisse as well. Tastes do indeed differ!

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RE: Fat... - 5/13/2005 9:06:31 PM

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from subersiveone: im not sure if A/anyone has said this yet but if allyC is fat count me in! She is one of the most gorgeous real life women ive seen here!!! seriously...

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from ruffnecksbabygirl: i said it! lol...she is very beautiful! i don't usually get this impressed by peoples looks, specially women lol....but she is stunning! and her personality seems just as impressive.

I don't know what to say but to say nothing at all woulld be terribly rude.

Um... thank you :) You both made my night. :)

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RE: Fat... - 5/14/2005 6:53:27 AM

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When it comes to stats like height and weight I always just put them in bare bones, show my best picture and leave it at that.

They can interpret that as they wish, if they interpret it negatively, well that's the best way to know you aren't compatible right away.

Personally, I prefer in shape men. I am involved with men who are not in the best shape they could be and are somewhat overweight, but in the same way that I am. I would NOT want to be with someone who huffed going up stairs.

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RE: Fat... - 6/2/2005 4:48:05 AM

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I have been reading this post and have been appalled at some of the posts towards the beginning, there seem to be so many people who truly have a thing against "Fat" people. When I was mentioning this to my husband my eight year old son overheard what I said and his reply was this "I believe that fat people shouldn't be treated any differently than skinny people." To me that says it all, he is not negative or biased he speaks the truth and that is how I wish the whole world viewed things...through the eyes of a child. I myself have suffered from severe thryroid disease since I was sixteen years old, my doctors and I have been unable to control my weight since then so I do not know what else to call myself but a SSBBW. My body may be big, but men tell me how lovely my face is all the time, so it worked for me. Why it should bother others is beyond me, my thoughts are if they don't like what they see then don't look and if they don't like what they are reading then stop reading it. I do appreciate Ally for starting this post because she brought up a valid question, some people may be able to handle being called fat where as others may not. I myself do not care any longer because I know I am doing all in my power to control my weight. However reading a post that inadvertantly lumped me in with beached whales is anouther story. That was rude, nasty and completely uncalled for. There was no reason for any type of name assigning to overweight people in a negative way. It is shameful that adults act this way.

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