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AmazonLady -> Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:09:03 AM)
I am chosen, I have chosen. W/we've made a choice to choose only each other. I am His property - His submissive girl. He is MINE as much as I am HIS. I am owned. Not collared. My question is this: What is the diffrence? I've looked around some and again, diffrent people have diffrent perspectives. This is what I think - I am His. I have chosen Him and will continue to be His until one of us changes our mind. (Lets not ever have that happen!! pls) I consider myself Taken, as in off the 'market' - I no longer am looking at other men 'that way', I have a partner - boyfriend - whatever you will. If He decides He wishes to collar me - To me this would be not only a deeper relationship but a symbol of His mark upon me. More then His property - but a connection that is no longer just in our 'minds' but also to the world. Also it is a mark of His responsibility for me, my emotional and 'slave' state - (not financially or socially.) My worth to be trained to His personal perfection. What are the other views in here? Edit - I'd also like to know, for those that are collared or who have collared thier sub/slave. At what point did the collaring happen in the relationship?

OfHonestValue -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:13:42 AM)
I am owned as well and not collared. To some ppl in this community a collar is like wedding ring and they have a collaring ceramony. That is all that I know about that.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:19:53 AM)
Reposted: Generally, ownership is considered a state of being within a relationship. Collared generally tends to be a statement of going through a specific act of having a collar placed upon you. But, many people consider themselves collared without the element of ownership, and many people consider themselves owned without ever putting on a collar. http://www.collarchat.com/m_972728/mpage_1/key_collared/tm.htm#973007 collared vs owned http://www.collarchat.com/m_498653/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#498670 The Coveted and Legendary Collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_531609/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#531610 Collaring vs Wearing a collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_547321/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#547475 The meaning of a collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_485613/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#485797 Please share with me (what being collared means to you) http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=427111&mpage=1&key=collaring&#427257 being collared http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=410988&mpage=1&key=collaring&#411019 public collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_291301/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#291301 Collar vs Wedding Ring http://www.collarchat.com/m_287566/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#287566 Another Question Regarding the Collar http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=323687&mpage=1&key=collaring&#323702 collars (2) http://www.collarchat.com/m_287140/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#287140 Collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_264867/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#264867 Sub Thoughts on collars http://www.collarchat.com/m_248345/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#248345 collar before love http://www.collarchat.com/m_247668/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#247668 ring or collar, what's the difference? http://www.collarchat.com/m_219135/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#219135 What does a collar mean? http://www.collarchat.com/m_190240/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#190240 collar or what else? http://www.collarchat.com/m_187244/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#187244 Accepting a collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_184946/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#184946 Timeframe for a Collar? http://www.collarchat.com/m_177155/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#177155 collar (2) http://www.collarchat.com/m_165733/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#165733 collars http://www.collarchat.com/m_151638/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#151638 Collar Ceremony http://www.collarchat.com/m_150934/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#150934 Losing the Collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_132702/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#132702 From chat to collar http://www.collarchat.com/m_124898/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#124898 Wearing training collar in public http://www.collarchat.com/m_81449/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#81449 What are the collar types/levels please? http://www.collarchat.com/m_80281/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#80281 When is the right time to collar? http://www.collarchat.com/m_70392/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#70392 Collars and collaring http://www.collarchat.com/m_61337/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#61337 Collar conundrum? http://www.collarchat.com/m_59686/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#59686 Color of collars? http://www.collarchat.com/m_55592/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#55592 Collars when? http://www.collarchat.com/m_27368/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#27368 Kind of a collar question? http://www.collarchat.com/m_11451/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#11451 Collaring a submissive? http://www.collarchat.com/m_428/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#428 What is your definition of a training collar? http://www.collarchat.com/m_402/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#402 Multiple collars or single collar?

southeasternsub -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:22:04 AM)
I also am not collared, but owned. To make it easier to understand I look at it like in a vanilla relationship were you have become exclusive to one another. I have no desire to meet or do things with any other males. In time if a collaring happens its very much like a marriage and an even deeper commitment to each other and the lifestyle.

charismagirrl -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:33:13 AM)
i am both collared and owned. For us it kind of happened at the same time (althought i truly felt like i was His long before the collar was put around my neck) It was almost like, maybe what the others seem to be saying... He owned me...i was to be His and he was obtaining me (sounds weird but that was kind of the way it went)...then he gave me my first collar and it became official (maybe like an engagement ring????) Then we drew up and signed a contract (more as a statement to eachother/a promise rather than a negotiated deal of some sort)<<< Maybe like a marriage contract/or promise of commitment and honor to eachother...It also solidified the fact that i am HIS. Next will be a legal wedding ceremony followed by a BDSM wedding ceremony (what that will entail i don't know at this point) So it's been stages for us. Edited to add: i live as a slave 24/7/365... It just IS what it is and i don't feel like i can just walk away, i am honor bound as well as emotionally and mentally and and every other way i can imagine-enslaved to Him.....i add this not as a chest thump kind of thing but more to the point of not trivializing my collar since i did refer to it as an engagement ring rather than a wedding ring....my collar isn't a collar of consideration or training...the collar is really on my heart/mind...so i just wanted to clarify.[:)]

AmazonLady -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:43:26 AM)
I'm enjoying reading your thoughts. Thank you so much LuckyAlbatross you are a virtuall font of finding information! I have had another thought to add as well. Is a collar a promise of training, or a completion of submission. I've heard/read people collaring thier submissive because they reach a point where the sub has completed such 'stages' in thier relationships, done so many 'tasks' and have earned a collar from them. That does not mean the training is complete in any way. So collaring is essentially a promise to continue training and attentions - not always a 'marriage' promise or a relationship commitment. I'm just trying to get it sorted out in my head. What is truly important is what Daddy and I belive the collar (or in this case - what I want in the future) means. ty again - everyone.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:47:31 AM)
Collars can and are used to mean anything and everything you can imagine.

charismagirrl -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 10:50:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AmazonLady I'm just trying to get it sorted out in my head. What is truly important is what Daddy and I belive the collar (or in this case - what I want in the future) means. ty again - everyone. you soooo totally hit the butt with the paddle there![:)] Exactly exactly....what the collar means to your Daddy is the uttmost important and then how he imparts that meaning to you. The one of the biggest things i've learned over my past year plus since having been collared and living 24/7 with my Daddy is that there are soooo damned many SUPPOSED TOs out there and they really can ammount to a huge pile of crap and confusion. The only real supposed tos that matter are the ones from your own Daddy/Master (or whatever other configuration of that one could come up with)...alot of the other stuff, although it may mean a ton to someone (or a bunch of someones) may mean absolutely ZERO to your Daddy and it's HIM (or He?) that you are involved with.

drawntothedark -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 11:04:55 AM)
To me the collar is a symbol. I don't feel (And this is only my humble opionin) that a collar means anything more than a physical symbol for the world to see of the relationship Justin and I have. When I was married, I was still Married when I slipped my wedding ring off to do the dishes. I am still collared, if he takes it off of me for some reason. I felt "collared" before I recieved the actual collar. But this- just like so many other terms- have different defintions to different people. That's just my feeling on it.

jaunty1 -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 11:25:39 AM)
In addition to owning my girl; she is also married to me. As of yet though, I have not officially collared her; that will not happen for several years yet. A collar means only what the people involved wants it to mean. For some it means marriage; for others it goes beyond; and for others it is simply a word that signifies ownership. Live well Alex

Celeste43 -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 12:19:14 PM)
I'm collared and not owned. I'm sub not slave. He prefers to know that I'm here because I want to be and not because I have no other options. I don't do slavery or body modifications because I'm Jewish and those are things done without consent in the death camps. I doubt our relationship differs that much from every one else's except for our preferences in words.

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 12:23:40 PM)
i'm chained, owned and collared - in that exact order by Daddy. the primary collar (i have 2 others i wear) is my "wedding" ring ...an eternal sign of our lifetime committment to each other until death do we ever part. however the one difference about my collaring, i didn't have to complete any tasks or reach any stages within our D/s dynamic. Daddy doesn't operate like that - He knewwhat He was looking for in a daughter-submissive upon finding me. all it took was for me to realize He was the one and that made my submission to Him so special.

robertolapiedra -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:03:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Collars can and are used to mean anything and everything you can imagine. Exactly. For others, bracelets, anklets, tittie chain, special ring, diamond lariat, piercing with tag, tattoo, branding, scarring, classic engagement-wedding ring or simply nothing 'visible' at all. That is the fun part, you decide what is meaningful to 'you' and what it represents of 'your' dynamic. RL.

MadameButterfly -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:06:37 PM)
What a great topic. In my opinion owned it what the bottom/sub/slave feels, it does not require a collar, it does not need to be shown to the rest of the community. I know when mine is owned... I can look at them, observe them in various settings and know that they are owned by me. I see that when my will is expressed through their interactions with others... the way the conduct themselves in Lifestyle and Mainstream situations. I believe that collar needs to be around their heart long before it is around their neck. The last collar I bestowed on someone took them 8 months to earn and I know (because I asked) this person felt owned long before I but that leather around their neck. Do what feels right to you...

charismagirrl -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:07:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl i didn't have to complete any tasks or reach any stages within our D/s dynamic. That was also how it worked with my Daddy and i. There were no tasks or stages that had to be reached for him to collar me. It was more of his declaration that he wanted to officially own me anad my declaration that i wanted to be owned by him. i'm not sure if my earlier post might've conveyed otherwise, i did afterall mention stages...but that wasn't as in any formal stages, it is more like a natural progression i guess i could say.

domiguy -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:10:05 PM)
It's nothing but semantics...I could care less what you call it...The collaring crap is just buying into someone elses concept of placing meaning as well as tying up your relationship with a nice pretty bow....

NakedGirlScout -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:12:26 PM)
I'm also owned (and married) but collars are strictly used for play purposes - and very rarely even then. I say "yes" when people ask me whether I'm collared, because it turns out they mean "owned" and not whether there's a collar on me.

charismagirrl -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:13:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy ... of placing meaning as well as tying up your relationship with a nice pretty bow.... LOL What's wrong with nice pretty bows? LOL i'm a girl so i adore pretty little bows. Which makes me wonder....is collaring (the actual collar) more for the slave/sub (esp if female) so that they can have their pretty little bow, so to speak...their corsage, bauble,trinket (etc) to validate what is in their heart/head?

Ericus1 -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:16:26 PM)
For me, being collared was the same as being married. The collar she put on my neck was the same as a wedding ring. But i was owned be her before i was collared. To us, my being owned was more of the engagement. ericus

AmazonLady -> RE: Owned vs. Collared (5/10/2007 1:55:22 PM)
owned - My ass is His to do with as He will. He desires to make it bleed, it shall. He desires to spoil it, He shall. He desires is all that matters. He owns me and His wish is my fontest Desire. Because it is my will, because I want too do this for Him. Ulimatly it is my choice to be owned by Him collared - I haven't quite decided what it means to me.. I have many ideas of what it means, but nothing that I can settle on yet. It's why I've started with this question. Edit - I wanted to explain. I did put an explanation of what I felt collared meant to me on this beginning of this thread. I wanted to come back and explain why I've now left it empty. Because I've heard/read diffrent views and great points have been brought up all over - I'm still figuring it out for 'this girl'

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