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ORIGINAL: Eldritchdancer

"If a Dominant, be they male or female, demands tribute to meet with them at all... how are they different from a prostitute/giggilo? In both cases you are giving something of value just for the pleasure of their company."

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ORIGINAL: MsSaskia

I'm very ethical, thank you.

It's always funny how people who are marginalized by society and considered aberrant and somehow lesser by the mainstream just have to separate out someone from within their group to point at to make themselves feel better. "We may be aberrant, but at least we ain't hoors!  It's understandable, it's transparent, and it's pathetic.

Pro domination is sex work. Big deal. But you've collected some big fetish toy collection and you've got superhuman dommely or subby skills and nobody's beating down your door to offer you compensation?  That must really suck. How dare those women charge?  Who they hell do they think they are?  Cuz everybody knows pro dommes are just trashy little hacks who don't know what they're doing.  Except for Midori; she's different. Oh, and maybe Cleo DuBois.  And some of those other evil, amoral bitches who make money doing what they love and give back in spades to their communities.  Like myself, come to think of it. 

The pro dommes I know that were in the leather scene 20 or more years ago are the ones that created a leather scene in their cities.  They were the ones that had the dungeons, had the furniture, had the expertise, and knew everybody that was into everything kinky.  Before the internet, if you weren't a gay leatherman and you wanted to be involved in kink, it was pro dommes doing the work.  Some of my mentors are still the hardest working pro dommes I know and still contribute gladly to their communities, donating furniture and time to leather conferences and acting as a resource on many levels for their communities.  Who, like most of the people here, turn right around and snipe and sneer and take potshots.  I'd like to say it hurts us all deeply and we lose sleep, but that phase lasts about a year and then we get over it and keep doing exactly what we're doing, and up yours if you don't like it.

I know it's fun to decide you're morally superior and you've cornered the market on knowing exactly what's ethical and what's "true" BDSM and that anyone who doesn't match your image of someone in the scene is the devil themselves.  That's all hugely gratifying, knowing in your heart of hearts that you're better than someone like me.  I certainly wouldn't want to take your fun away, but if you ever get a sneaking suspicion that there might be more to pro dommes than what you and all your friends have agree there is, try actually talking to some of us, one on one, in person.  Heck, do it a few times!  Get to know us!  Otherwise, give it a f-ing rest.  We're not going anywhere.

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

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ORIGINAL: Copulo

What is the problem with all of this anyway?
Why worry about a name, a label? If we are comfortable in what we are then why would we worry about what other people think?

Because people let a label define them instead of defining themselves. The minute you say that a pro-dom is the same as a whore they automaticly think that you're belittling them when infact you haven't. As Dark said, words are only that. It is those that take it as an insult that give those words power over them.

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ORIGINAL: hermione83

Psst, its Coco Chanel. 

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ORIGINAL: malcontent


Why the difference depending on which side of the kneel a Woman is on?

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ORIGINAL: rook42

On Whores:

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Really depends on how you define whore.

If you mean "has sex with people for explicit monetary compensation", then no. Or not normally; define sex, as old Bill would say. It's really just a question of semantics