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ORIGINAL: jimbo747

Sex is penetration of penis to vagaina.  or oral sex. 

Professional Dominitrix dont have sex with their clients.  They dont have to.  That is what prostitutes do - they let a penis enter their vagaina or mouth.  Pros dont.  You can not lump to the two in the same category. 

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ORIGINAL: MistressMercia

"If a Dominant, be they male or female, demands tribute to meet with them at all... how are they different from a prostitute/gigolo? In both cases you are giving something of value just for the pleasure of their company."
Firstly i am not Mistress Mercia , I am her husband  Master DeSade , 2ndly i am not her Master i am in my own right commercial as well , 3dly i am a psych. nurse with 5 years working the floors of institutions . Traditional Dominatrixes and Master's with the question as posed whom "Work" read it "Work" 24/7 living and breathing B.D.S.M Professionally where do's that leave us ?Hmmmmmmmmmmm it seems you will pay for the Upkeep of said Property all equipment refurbishing of said equipment (Of cause you dont use them so they dont wear out on YOUR ASS"S) do they , O.H.S issues how many B.D.S.M Practitioners whether Private or Commercial Know "The Universal Standards Of Hygiene" well tell me plz write back all of you who me know Exactly the due process's of Keeping Your Ass's safe from A.I.D's , Hepatitis in several forms ,Genital warts , Herpes , Virus's on un autoclaved instruments of insertion and the list go's on and on , but hey you dont expect a "Tribute Of Servitude" for a University qualified and On The Floor Nurse who did 3 years Uni and 5 years practice i the Real World ....Get it now....No .....o.k....Ohhhh Dominatrix and Mastery Apprenticeships heard of them People well serve your time under a Professional Traditional Dominatrix for 4 to 7 years of that  time and then tell ME That i am not worth the tribute whether or whatever that  form that takes . Traditional Means " NO SEXUAL PENERTRATION WITH THE MISTRESS OR MASTER " How is that Prostitution ??????????????????????????? tell me Now !!
I am the King's Mistress .................Do you Dare call me a Prostitute ..NO.........call  me Mistress........ The Real Ruler Of Your Kingdom ...........plz people go back and read your history , find out about B.D.S.M ,and go figure out how good a Pro_Dom you have to be to actually make a living out of this because if you are not ...then you will starve from your lack of Knowledge and Understanding and real time Experience , in our world.the pretentious in this game go quickly by reputation to the graveyard of ambiguity .
 
                                              Regards
                                                             Master L DeSade

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: jimbo747

Sex is penetration of penis to vagaina.  or oral sex. 

Professional Dominitrix dont have sex with their clients.  They dont have to.  That is what prostitutes do - they let a penis enter their vagaina or mouth.  Pros dont.  You can not lump to the two in the same category. 

Sex does not mean penetration of an orifice.

Masturbation is sexual.

So is sadism.

Masochism.

 

Not all prostitutes have sex constantly and not all dominias don't have sex.

 

However - labels are labels and end of the day, everyone uses their own definition, regardless of what it says on the can.

Peace

 

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


Dear Master Darkmoon,

What i find most interesting is the fact that not once in your OP, did you mention the exchange of anything sexual in nature for tribute. Yet like horses out
of the gate, everyone's a whore and a prostitute, flashing flesh and body parts for that dastardly dinero, the root of all evil, (though some feel deeply it is a certain political party, pick one) ever tainting the human
race's oh so innocent approach to satisfy their wanton desires. Poor submissives everywhere are viewed as pathetic little weaklings with absolutely no understanding as to what it is they do when offering a
tribute, or letter, or rose, or cadillac to one whom they choose to do so.
(a voluntary tribute defined as something given, done, or said to show
gratitude, respect, honor, or praise)

Do we all not offer tribute all day long to the Gods of our needs and desires? Want it? That'll be 5.99 plus tax. (a forced tribute) And yes, one could define corporate entities as the biggest whores around, but
we enjoy them, work for them, and profit ourselves from them. Would that not make us just another whore in the big house? Why must we always find fault within the ranks, when they are beating at the door thrusting spears of judgement from without? What is it they say about
a house divided? i know, i am not you, and you are not me, and sometimes we feel differently. There is no book of rules by which we must all abide, well, actually there might be depending on one's beliefs, but i won't even venture into that one, God forbid! We are a whole lot
different, we are a whole lot the same, the same, the same, the same.

Each and every relationship is unique unto itself, defined by the boundries
or extentions of those involved, their needs and desires addressed within
the parameters of said relationship. If it works, excellent! No matter the
individual application which keeps such alive and thriving, be it tribute,
denial of tribute, or simply letting a boy stand on your balcony, naked
to the world, arms outstretched, shouting, "i'm kink of the world!". What
does it really matter to me if they find this scenerio works for them? 
What does it matter if he chooses to give Her money, flowers, parfume, or a dozen eggs to do so? Unless he holds you at gunpoint to accompany him in such, forcing you to do the same, it does not change you one bit.

"Oh but it reflects on the whole enchilada, some will say." In my journey as a submissive, i have seen things i have never imagined in my wildest dreams, the enchilada containing some ingredients which quite frankly
shock me sometimes.

But if it works for them, doesn't hurt those involved,  and is not illegal, it is their enchilada to consume. i will not resort to simple name calling because from high atop my soap box, it is unexceptable to my oh so superior beliefs to allow such. Who said this was about sex? Does it have to be about sex? Why do we automatically apply it as money or sex? Simply because others say so? Simply because the word "whore"
rolls so smoothly off the tongue and covers the bases nicely?
 
Well, on behalf of all the Beautiful Ladies here, i do so apologize for the loose and misuse of nasty little labels which offend and pretend to solve the query.

There is a wonderful exchange
of lesson subject between true need boys and the Glorious Dommes whom graciously share of Themselves with us. i am not being held at gunpoint to open my wallet, and i would like to think that i am intelligent enough to
make decisions concerning my own needs and my own earned money.

Fact of the matter is, i am offering freely for something which has enlightened and expanded my horizons, and in the course of, i have been privileged to have had some tremendous conversations with extremely intellectual Women, a much richer and better understanding for doing such. It is a goal at
, Call these Women "whores"? <SLAP> Not on
my watch! Simple is as simple does, simply.

Rise above the mediocre and mundane "everything fits all" answer, expand your mind beyond it's limits of
half empty applications, because the subject may just not be about what one thinks it is at all. Please don't define my love, adoration, devotion, or purpose by insulting those whom i find stunningly beautiful of mind and soul.

With Love and Respect, chia* (the pet)  

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ORIGINAL: LightHeartedMaam

I don't wear shoes :)  (nor lables nor live iu a pigeon hole.) LOL.  No intolerance here that I see,  only a discussion.  Perhaps a lack of a cheering section speaks louder than anything.

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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

the report will go ignored since this really does not fall into vulgar

it was juvenille name calling

However, posting the jerk's name on the message boards is a violation of TOS & the mods will take action on editing the post & sending you a friendly note on the other side

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Funny thing is, pro-domination and BDSM as a whole, is illegal in some places. In some places, states well as countries, you can not strike another person, restrain another person or threaten another person regardless of their consent for you to do so. Which really invalidates your arguement that it is not a criminal offence.

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ORIGINAL: ICGsteve

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

What's dishonest about saying hey I'ma Pro-Domme I expect payment, when approached by a "submissive" about play?

If you have a Dom tell a potential sub "I will be your Dom but you need to show up with a $500 "tribute" to prove to me that you are ready to submit to me" the message is that this interaction is a power exchange between two people.

If you have a Dom tell a potential sub "I will be your Dom but that service will cost you $500" then , it a fee for a service.

In the first case the financial transaction is advertised as a support the power exchange dynamic, but that the relationship will be  a personal one. In the second case the financial exchange is clearly  intended to purchase the services of the Dom, the relationship is a business deal.

My contention is that very often what is passed off as a personal relationship where money trades hands is in fact a purchase. Doms misrepresent to subs their motivations for being with the sub, so the sub never fully understands the nature of the relationship. He could show up without the cash but he would then be told that he will not be seen because he has not proved his submissiveness, when in fact he will not be seen because he refused to pay for the product he wanted to consume.

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ORIGINAL: HellsMichelle

Wow. I must be sooooo offensive...by joining in this discussion I have left myself open to hate mail such as this:

"wow you are a beautiful prostitute, and love to fuck you...i know lots of guys that would love to put their manhood in you back and front...talk to you later you WHORE "
USEME4U4EVER And to accent his cowardice more the ratbastard blocked my response of:"I have reported this message to the myspace authorities for vulgar content. Hopefully they will ban you, but until then YOU HAVE BEEN BLOCKED.

Simple enough for you big boy?

I know, you thought this would get to me..i've been called worse by better people for less,

M "

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

Funny thing is, pro-domination and BDSM as a whole, is illegal in some places. In some places, states well as countries, you can not strike another person, restrain another person or threaten another person regardless of their consent for you to do so. Which really invalidates your arguement that it is not a criminal offence.

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ORIGINAL: jimbo747

Who are you kidding?   Multiple threads exclaiming "She's a prostitute"  is not simply a persons opinion and you know it.

The continous posts  ranting:  She's a whore, she's a whore or she's a prostitute, she's a prostitute are complete insults to women and you know it is. 

Stop kidding yourself.

People are spending days in this thread "shes a whore, she's a prostitute".  Kind of makes you wonder why they are so concerened with what two consenting adults do on their own time. 

Such passionate insults stem from a hatred or fear of women in general, you know it,  I know it, we all know it. 

It's not mine.