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mercmjm -> bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:04:30 PM)

I am roman catholic and my domme friend is greek orthodox, so basically christian.  Does bdsm mean we are going to hell? or are we good?




mistoferin -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:07:13 PM)

Hmmmm....what was it that God sent his only son here to die for again?????




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:09:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Hmmmm....what was it that God sent his only son here to die for again?????

i would only add....you cant' out sin God....He is cool like that!




mercmjm -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:09:53 PM)

ya mist i do not think that is an answer at all




mistoferin -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:10:48 PM)

It really is if you think about it...




mercmjm -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:12:26 PM)

yes jesus was sent here to die for our sins, but by that logic you are saying that serial murderes such as ted bundy go to heaven




kittinSol -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:13:31 PM)

What does hell have to do with god, or even just believing in him :-)  ?




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:14:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mercmjm

yes jesus was sent here to die for our sins, but by that logic you are saying that serial murderes such as ted bundy go to heaven

Yes...isnt God an awsome God....that He can wipe clean someone's sin that "we" deem so awful and bad.....




AquaticSub -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:15:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mercmjm

I am roman catholic and my domme friend is greek orthodox, so basically christian.  Does bdsm mean we are going to hell? or are we good?


That's one of those questions that nobody can answer for you. You have to decide it for yourself.

By the way, coming here for religious advice (particularly if you are Christian) is a really fucking bad idea.




Mercnbeth -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:16:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mercmjm

yes jesus was sent here to die for our sins, but by that logic you are saying that serial murderes such as ted bundy go to heaven


according to your professed religion's dogma, as long as they are in good standing with the "one-true-religion" when they die, what's to stop them?




OsideGirl -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:16:50 PM)

I'll add that there are Christian BDSM sites and clubs.




AquaticSub -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:18:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I'll add that there are Christian BDSM sites and clubs.


If you have concerns of your faith and BDSM, you would be better off bringing them there. Check around with google and livejournal (I know it's corny but there are some good BDSM groups there).




mercmjm -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:23:11 PM)

I have found some sites that were against it and some sites saying that it was ok.  I did find out for all those who are muslim it is actually written that it is fine as long as there is consent.




mistoferin -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:23:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mercmjm
yes jesus was sent here to die for our sins, but by that logic you are saying that serial murderes such as ted bundy go to heaven


Oh my....well technically, according to the Catholic Church, all sins are equal. If you confess your sins and say an Act of Contrition and receive an Absolution...then chances are good that yes, people like Ted Bundy could go to heaven. Of course they would have to still have to deal with that pesky Purgatory but if they could get enough people to pay money and light candles...yeah...it could happen.




slavemaia -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:26:31 PM)

If your religious beliefs dictate that BDSM is a sin and you believe this, then yes, i suppose you will in some way, somehow condemn yourself to hell. Personally i believe God is too loving to condemn anyone - He's also pretty smart. He knows we do a good enough job all on our own. hee hee




Archer -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:27:12 PM)

I would contend that BDSM is not in and of itself sinfull, any more than any sport or any sexual activity is sinfull in and of itself. Sin comes from motivation for what you do more than the actions themselves.




drawntothedark -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:33:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: mercmjm

I am roman catholic and my domme friend is greek orthodox, so basically christian.  Does bdsm mean we are going to hell? or are we good?


That's one of those questions that nobody can answer for you. You have to decide it for yourself.

By the way, coming here for religious advice (particularly if you are Christian) is a really fucking bad idea.


I don't have a problem with him coming here and asking it. It's BDSM related (in a way). He should just be prepared for all sort of different views. Some he may find offensive or blasphemous.

edit because I can spell blasphemous but not different?????/ Grrrrr I worry me.




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:36:17 PM)

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By the way, coming here for religious advice (particularly if you are Christian) is a really fucking bad idea.

LMAO...Amen and Amen




shyinini -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:39:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mercmjm

ya mist i do not think that is an answer at all


The answer is salvation & righteousness.  Dont ya read that Bible of yours???
But he is a cool God who has given us our choice..FREE WILL

You are ONLY answereable to HIM...NOT US !!




Pezzle -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 1:39:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Archer

I would contend that BDSM is not in and of itself sinfull, any more than any sport or any sexual activity is sinfull in and of itself. Sin comes from motivation for what you do more than the actions themselves.



Bingo. In this context it is the intent and not the action that brings about the sin.




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