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curiousexplorer -> RE: bdsm and religion (5/11/2007 3:27:28 PM)
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"I am roman catholic and my domme friend is greek orthodox, so basically christian. Does bdsm mean we are going to hell? or are we good? "
It doesn't matter what you are or what you do, hell is a mythological concept you can no more reach than heaven. Don't live with fear and ignorance, work to overcome them. That is the only way to avoid hell.
"yes jesus was sent here to die for our sins, but by that logic you are saying that serial murderes such as ted bundy go to heaven "
The deathbed confession is a popular choice for that religion, do whatever you like and simply ask for forgiveness. So yes, in christian mythology it does not matter what you do on Earth, only that you accept god when you die. If the Ted Bundys of the world repented and accepted god, then they would get into heaven (if it existed). And what would happen to the good people from different cultures who didn't accept god? You guessed it, they go straight to hell. Religions don't care about good behaviour, and quite often are excuses against good behaviour. Religions generally focus on similarities. Live the same, think the same, worship the same and destroy that which is different.
Oh, while we are talking about killers, read up on the old testament. Peace and love might make Jesus happy, but his old man likes death and lots of it.
And if Jesus died for our sins, we can't let that sacrifice be for nothing, go forth and sin to make his death meaningful.
"Bingo. In this context it is the intent and not the action that brings about the sin."
Because we make up the religions, we can also make up how they work at any time for any example. It's why we can have thou shalt not kill and kill all gods enemies in the same religious text. Basically if you are happy doing something, and the church isn't going to burn you for it, then it's fine, your gods love you and your into whatever afterlife you've chosen to believe in. Though chosen to believe in is usually giving far to much credit to the religious follower, most simply follow what they were born into with absolutely no thought or analysis.
"into a flame war about how Christianity sucks and those who are religious are stupid."
Replace christianity with religion and it's a history lesson, not flaming.
mercmjm, if you really are worried about this, then the best thing for you to do is forget about your religion for a while, and take a good look at religion throughout history. When you look at all the stupid practices and rituals throughout time, take the feelings you have and apply them to your own rituals and practices. Once you put your mythology in it's proper context, it should cease to have any power over you. If you are scared of hell and god, then you should be scared of vampires, morlocks, klingons, cyclops, and every imaginary thing humanity has come up with. They are all as real as each other, no matter what ones you were raised with. Did it matter to Santa if you were bad or good, or only what your parents knew about?
South Park is as correct as any religion. God is a bunyip buddist, we are all going to hell, and the Mormons were right and get to go to heaven.
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