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I'm curious, since no rule is universal, then are you suggesting that nothing can be discussed in general terms?
As in something like. The fat epidemic is caused by diet.
Must one write, The fat epidemic is caused by diet, exclusing those suffereing, from disease and or the effects of drugs taken to treat those diseases. In addition it is not conclusively shown that the mere presents of greater amounts of fat necessarily directly relates to declined health, just in 95%+ of the cases. Though these current observations are still under study and may be prone to future analysis.
LOL. That would make for some long replies.
Why not just speak in general terms when speaking of "groups" of people, and speak of individual causes when speaking of individuals. It would seem to be a more effcient manner of covering most of the bases, of any particular conversation.
So, if I'm talking about BBW's then it's general averages of facts relating to Large Women.
If I'm talking of an indvidual BBW then obviously you'd just speak of that case only.
I really don't understand why when a "GROUP" of people is referred to it seems the inclination of each member of the "GROUP" to demand the facts be based around them.
See the difference.
It's like "The US's GDP has risen increased prosperity is on the rise".
That's true of the group called the US, but it may not be true of the individual US citizen, none the less that fact can lead to a general discussion excluding oddball individual occurences.
It seems everyone must make everything about their individual circumstances.
The problem with talking in generalities about a sub group is that people start to relate ALL of the members of that sub group to those generalities.
To take it OUT of this threads examples for a minute: There are SOME teenagers that are destructive, vandilizing buildings and cars, stealing from stores, becoming parts of gangs, tearing up restaurants. When we stop saying that one word SOME, and start saying There are teenagers that are destructive, vandilizing buildings blah blah blah, then we have calls to ban ALL teenagers from restaurants (because groups of teenagers together WILL tear up restaurants) and things like that.
Is this a far fetched example? No. In other forums, I've seen it happen (specifically with the teenagers because one group of teenagers did some vandelism or otherwise destroyed or defaced public property).
There are SOME people who are fat who are lazy and do nothing but eat 10,000 calories a day, refuse to get up and excersize, and have extreme health problems due to their weight. Yes. Are they the majority? Maybe. Maybe not.
Also, on a side note, I'd like to ask why it's not ok for "them ugly fat people" to be fat because they are lazy, yet skinny people who are blessed with a really good metabolism, and who eat the 5,000 calories a day and do nothing more strenuous than loading the dishwasher are ok to be lazy, just because they are skinny? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. And this is also how generalizations hurt a specific group. You are judging a group of people who are fat by the lowest common denominator (the 1,000 lb guy/gal who can't get up from his/her couch and is reported about in tabloids and on tabloid TV) even though some are extremely active (and we don't know the percentage because there's never been a study done of how active fat people are). You are also judging a group of people who are skinny/normal by the highest common denominator (the person who eats a 2000 to 3000 calorie a day diet and who excersizes 1 hour a day 5 to 7 days a week and maintains their svelt figure by being sensible, eating right, and excersizing).
Just because there *may* be statistics (and nobody's brought out any statistics here from reputable sources, except an article I linked to, and Domina Smartass and her suggestions of different books and articles) to prove their point. Somebody saying, "99.8% blah" or "90% blah" without references to the studies showing anything is just people blowing smoke. Yes, YOU might have read articles, books, etc with the studies in them showing "90% blah", but I have no way of knowing where you did. (After all, 78% of all statistics are made up on the spot ...)
It's generalizations like this that cause ALL teenagers to get thrown out of restaurants (unless with their parents) because ONE group of teenagers destroyed a restaurant ONE time 20 years ago. Or two groups. Or fifty groups. The amount of teenagers engaging in destructive behavior doesn't matter, because they are still the minority. You just hear about them more often. Just like, possibly, the amount of "lazy, fat" people is in the minority, but those are the ones people always talk about.
Just food for thought.
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