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gypsygrl -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 2:17:35 PM)

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i have been accused of being a bully, a hypocrite, a wind bag lol, and various other adjectives. i don’t believe i am those things, i realize that’s their only defense to indefensible actions – tear me down, try to drag me to their level.


And, now you've become a martyr.




Mercnbeth -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 2:44:39 PM)

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OP: i don't begrudge them saying what they want to say because i have the option of not reading and or responding to them, simple as that. 
At least in this thread, the option was never taken.

Begrudge-ment? You be the judge from these references:
  • quote:


  • Whenever someone does something as a "pack" tells me they are basically a bully.
  • why they can't see how bad they look to other people
  • i get annoyed when i read those threads
  • i just dislike hypocrisy.
  • those drama mongers
  • stick to the thread topic - or do you enjoy being discourteous
  • i feel rather sorry for you.
  • i call that "pack mentality" 
  • the "clique" is far to  clever as to make it that obvious.
  • you can't stand drama but are so willing to become a part of it - in the name of hating it.... utter nonsense
  • And a sad commentary it is on those people
  • they must revel in it

All, obviously, taken out of context; and in reality 'constructive' ideas offered to those views in opposition of the OP.

To summarize...
quote:

To those of you who responded with sincerity i thank you and apologize for the mêlée that ensued
= My clique.

quote:

 because a group of people became so threatened someone dared attempt to rain on their little parade…..
=That Asshole clique.

Beyond the rhetoric, we've now completed the circle; a Seinfeld-esk; nonconstructive constructive thread.




swtnsparkling -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 3:09:49 PM)

In regards to this whole pile of crap- that just because a person is in agreement with the OP on one particular topic they are now part of a clique.  speak for yourself

I am alone here on these boards- I dont know any of you- I' dont talk to any of you. I read the threads I answer when I want too. I will continue to agree and disagree with
whom ever I choose-
this does not mean I have joined up with any individuals to fit in and be one of  the "popular kids" 

My opinions- agreements-disagreements- thoughts- ideas- will remain as they have been- just mine
Now, Thank you for your time and attention
Good night and have a Great tomorrow
[poster will no longer respond to this thread]




velvetears -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 3:18:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

OP: i don't begrudge them saying what they want to say because i have the option of not reading and or responding to them, simple as that. 
At least in this thread, the option was never taken.

Obviously not since it was actually a thread i started

Begrudge-ment? You be the judge from these references:

If you read the op carefully you would realize i did not begrudge the drama thread starters - not the drama mongers - meaning they have every right to post like everyone else and not be intimidated and ridiculed by the clique
  • quote:


  • Whenever someone does something as a "pack" tells me they are basically a bully.
  • why they can't see how bad they look to other people
  • i get annoyed when i read those threads
  • i just dislike hypocrisy.
  • those drama mongers
  • stick to the thread topic - or do you enjoy being discourteous
  • i feel rather sorry for you.
  • i call that "pack mentality" 
  • the "clique" is far to  clever as to make it that obvious.
  • you can't stand drama but are so willing to become a part of it - in the name of hating it.... utter nonsense
  • And a sad commentary it is on those people
  • they must revel in it


All, obviously, taken out of context; and in reality 'constructive' ideas offered to those views in opposition of the OP.

Most of what you took out of context was in response to posts attacking me - look at it in any way you like. 

To summarize...
quote:

To those of you who responded with sincerity i thank you and apologize for the mêlée that ensued
= My clique.

quote:

 because a group of people became so threatened someone dared attempt to rain on their little parade…..
=That Asshole clique.

Beyond the rhetoric, we've now completed the circle; a Seinfeld-esk; nonconstructive constructive thread.

i will repeat what i have already stated - i am no part of any clique - i leave that up to the drama mongers




velvetears -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 3:21:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

quote:

i have been accused of being a bully, a hypocrite, a wind bag lol, and various other adjectives. i don’t believe i am those things, i realize that’s their only defense to indefensible actions – tear me down, try to drag me to their level.


And, now you've become a martyr.



i haven't suffered and i haven't sacrificed, so that hardly describes me. 




VeryMercurial -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 3:22:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: velvetears

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ORIGINAL: happypervert

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Disagreements are fine - it's when people do make personal attacks i have an issue.

Unless, of course, it is you making the personal attacks -- then it is ok because you have staked out the moral high ground solely for yourself and you simply deny ever actually intending offense with your passively-aggressive snarky remarks.

What's really funny about your obsession with this moral crusade to "educate" others about the bad behavior of the "click" [sic] is that it should have been obvious to everyone else before the lightbulb went on over your head. So we've been blessed with the spectacle of seeing you put yourself up on a pedestal, congratulate yourself after a few agree with you, weasel around to avoid admitting you could possibly be a hypocrite while engaging in the same behaviors you deplore, and pretend to be interested in discussion until even thoughtful, objective posters like darkinshadows give up on you in disgust. Give youself a medal because it looks like everyone is getting bored with you, and so you'll finally get the last word.

This is all so ludicrous it is priceless! Thank you very much!

arf arf arf!





You obviously have trouble reading...poor dear.  You have a vested interested in the clique... without them you would have no purpose here... no one to bounce rude, crude and cruel remarks off of who will tolerate your rudeness. They give you a platform, and that makes you feel like a somebody - too bad you can't feel that way on your own through thoughtful dialogue and interesting thoughts of your own, instead of arfing at everyone, making snide comments and general childish behavior.... but glad it gave you something to read.... tata

 

That pervert is far from happy!
In fact I rarely see anything "happy" in anything he types.
This is a great thread, it shows what people are made of.




velvetears -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 3:26:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VeryMercurial

That pervert is far from happy!
In fact I rarely see anything "happy" in anything he types.
This is a great thread, it shows what people are made of.


i would thank you VeryMercurial but i don't want to make you a part of my clique lol.




VeryMercurial -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 3:27:04 PM)

You have been called everything but Satan.
And why? For just starting a thread about how many people behave
online and on message boards.
People have attacked, criticized and belitted you here, and I still do not
know why?
Because you dared bring up a topic, they don't like?
I am not angry because the topic does not bring forth anger in me.
Why should it unless the shoe fits?
And if the shoe fits wear it.




darkinshadows -> - Shakespeare - (5/15/2007 3:30:27 PM)

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets its hour upon the stage and is then heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
...and so... the world's but a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages.
 
And on this drama the curtain, is now, at the directors, the screenwriters wish -
dropped.
 
The End.
[sm=flowers.gif]
 
 




velvetears -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 3:30:54 PM)

Well said! - they all are very true to form and the shoe fits them very well!




DarkDreams123 -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 6:53:44 PM)

From post http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1011927

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
...
Some like to have everything nice and tidy.....categorized......organized. It drives them batshit when they don't have a good grasp of where everything fits and are able to keep it there. Then there are those of us that simply thrive on the messiness of life, see the beauty in imperfections. And of course all the varying degrees in the middle.

So those who don't thrive on messiness or see the beauty in imperfection (read that as those that don't agree with you) aren't as advanced as you.

quote:

But I must say the one style of post that is guaranteed to never interest me aside from wanting to poke sharp objects in a person to see if they whistle or just hiss when the hot air comes out...
All I see when I read that, is someone behind the computer that must be really irritating to spend too much time around...

This is a well-reasoned argument. No name calling here.

quote:

One thing you should do, for your own well being, is accept that no matter how much you harp, harrange, whine, get on your high horse and preach.......your not going to change it. You will only continue to give the sharp stick pokers a target and make them damned glad they are not you.

Speaking of harping, haranguing, and whining, not to mention preaching...
 
From post http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1013395

quote:

It is obvious then that you are as small minded as others have shown to be.
...
Wether or not I agree with Velvet is of no consequence, wether or not I think she is showing acceptable behaviour in telling others what to do is also of no importance at all. I also find humour in the fact that you seem to have taken my words as a personal attack on Velvet and felt the need to come to her rescue and make a pathetic attempt to chide me and defend her. Rather juvenile but then, that also is of no consequence. I do not know Velvet, I have zero idea of the whole person she is.

This is one small insignificant subject that I found interesting and had a different point of view than the one presented. I enjoy the back and forth of a good debate. Keep it up! I always enjoy a humorous diversion in my work day.

If this is such an insignificant subject and matters so little, why are you commenting on it (several times)? I wrote a message disagreeing with you and pointing out that you were engaging in just the behavior that you were condemning velvetears of doing. For that, you felt the need to call me small minded, pathetic and juvenile.

I don't feel the need to call you any names.

So is this the example of the kind of behavior that you think we should follow?

-DarkDreams




DarkDreams123 -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 7:00:56 PM)

Hello Marc2b,

I'm sorry that I can't take credit for the quote, but I was quoting LaTigresse.

I do agree with you, though, that Lord of the Flies was a good book. Disturbing, but good.

-DarkDreams




losttreasure -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 7:13:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

There are so many subtle euphemisms being used in this thread that I’m still not one hundred percent sure what the hell is going on. Also, it’s way past my bed time and I may be having brain farts. Still, sometimes I feel like everybody is speaking in code and I don’t have the key.


lol... you poor dear.  Perhaps a rosetta stone.  [;)]




Marc2b -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 7:29:14 PM)

Oops!  I admire the honesty, though.  Well, to give credit where credit is due...

LaTigresse123, I love the Lord of the Flies reference – one of my favorite books.




Marc2b -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 7:39:56 PM)

Okay, I get it.  I think.  I believe it validates my "Jerry Springer" theory.

It occurs to me folks that we have a tendency to address the words on the screen and not the person behind the words.  This causes us to forget two things.  First, that there is a flesh and blood person behind the words.  Second, that we really don't know anything about them.




UtopianRanger -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 7:44:01 PM)

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I am alone here on these boards- I dont know any of you- I' dont talk to any of you. I read the threads I answer when I want too.


Well said.  Far-n-away the posters I respect the most stand alone and post alone - Where is brother Faramir and brother Chaingang when you need them  [;)]

As for the cliques :  The people in them are easily devoured ; that's why they're there in the first place.



- R




domiguy -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 8:02:42 PM)

Nonsense, Cliques are formed by extremely special, like minded individuals....Who tend to prey on the weak....They are a thing of beauty.  Why would anyone take the time to bitch about such organizations?  Cliques don't necessarily need to bully their lesser counterparts but when operating at top capacity it is one of the great side benefits of being a part of such an illustrious group.  I would hate to live in a world where the stupid, or the unattractive thought they were entitled to the same benefits and life as the beautiful people....There is a complexity to the universe that has placed the "clique" at its center....Without cliques mankind would not exist....Imagine if our early ancestors did not bond together....All would have been lost.




dcnovice -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 8:05:20 PM)

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Where is brother ... Chaingang


He went to seminary.




UtopianRanger -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 8:11:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Nonsense, Cliques are formed by extremely special, like minded individuals....Who tend to prey on the weak....They are a thing of beauty.  Why would anyone take the time to bitch about such organizations?  Cliques don't necessarily need to bully their lesser counterparts but when operating at top capacity it is one of the great side benefits of being a part of such an illustrious group.  I would hate to live in a world where the stupid, or the unattractive thought they were entitled to the same benefits and life as the beautiful people....There is a complexity to the universe that has placed the "clique" at its center....Without cliques mankind would not exist....Imagine if our early ancestors did not bond together....All would have been lost.


Too funny - The next time I see someone picked on by one of your ''cliques'' I'm going to make an example out of them for you.[8|]



- R




asubmissiveheart -> RE: Constructive Ideas Needed (5/15/2007 10:29:29 PM)

This entire thread takes ironic to a new CM level.




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