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darkinshadows -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 7:11:54 AM)

You are welcome Merc -
I believe that is exactly why many do not take out insurence in the UK - just for that reason.  They know it means one pays twice.  But then, twice for what?  My unkle is currently in hosptial  under the NHS - not after undertaking a triple heart by pass - but because he is now recovering from MRSA after being in hospital for the triple.   A perfectly fit ex- boxer and atheltic man, apart from his heart trouble, now reduced to a frail shell due to this 'illness' that he wouldnt have caught had he not been in hospital.  Would this happen in private care?  I cannot answer.  But it is rare that such an illness is reported other than from NHS hospitals.
 
Peace




minnetar -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:05:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

My personal soapbox.
Colonoscopy.
Recommended at age 50 (or earlier if there is a family history of polyps or colon cancer).


I heard a Colonoscopy is a pain in the ass, and I expect to have first hand experience soon.

Annual physicals are good idea. Trading partners casually would seem to require a more frequent visit to the clinics to test for STD's.

We just got our annual 'clean bill of health' physicals. We had a scare put into us. The Doctor found a lump in beth's breast, requiring first a ultrasound and mammogram and ultimately a biopsy. The procedure was painful, and biopsy left bruising that made me conclude that the Doctor a much more intense sadist than I could ever hope to to. I was there for the whole thing and later told beth that she should have used a 'safe-word'. she reminded me she didn't have one.

The bottom line, was the lump was a Fibroadenoma; nothing to be too concerned. The most difficult part was the waiting; two weeks to get the mammogram/ultrasound, another week for the biopsy, and two days more for the results. Our friends say we collectively had a different personality during that period. I won't argue.

I promised beth I'd go through my required over 50 test as soon as all her testing and results were concluded. That was two weeks ago Tuesday. Now my excuse is waiting for her bruising to fade. I think when they get close to fading completely I'll spend some time with her in our dungeon to add some new color.

See how this relates to a Dom/Master experiencing the same sensation and not processing it the same? A sub may look forward and welcome a "session" that includes having 3-4 feet of hose up their butt as well as the associated 'cleansing and purging'. I don't have any similar positive anticipation thoughts; and don't expect to be able to relate any after the fact.


Just curious whether Y/you have an hmo or ppo?  i have a ppo and i never have had to wait that long for any of my tests.  i had a stress test done in two days after i got the referral.

minnetar




minnetar -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:07:56 PM)

dark,
What is MRSA?

minnetar




Mercnbeth -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:29:27 PM)

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Just curious whether Y/you have an hmo or ppo?  i have a ppo and i never have had to wait that long for any of my tests.  i had a stress test done in two days after i got the referral.

minnetar,
Interesting that you bring this up.

Until this year's renewal, in March, I had a PPO. When the renewal came up I asked my agent why? He reminded me that back when I initiated coverage, my dependent children did not live in CA so the only way to get them covered was to have a PPO. The cost of the PPO was more. Now that all dependents live in CA I asked him if there was any reason to stay on a PPO. Of course, this "expert", friend, and former insurance agent for my company, said no. The 'former' reference to him as my Company's health insurance agent; a direct result of my bad insurance experience with beth. I'm in the process of changing the company and coverage for my entire staff and whoever the new company is, the PPO option will most likely be my choice.

When I was fighting the battle for a quicker test, I used the fact that as a male, my colonoscopy was approved and could have been scheduled for the next day. I had NO symptoms. beth, with symptoms and a potential major problem, was subject to a few day approval process and 'fitting' into a HMO schedule. I pointed out to everyone I talked to that there appeared to be some gender bias involved.




minnetar -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:33:45 PM)

Thanks so much for the reply Merc and i appreciate Your thoughtfulness in regards to Your company.  i wonder if there is a longer wait list for more commonly done tests such as a mammogram.  Just a thought.

minnetar




gentlethistle -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:41:53 PM)

I've given up trying to find a National Health dentist in my city.  They don't exist.  I could go to the dental access clinic but my employer doesn't allow non-emergency medical appointments in work time and I can't get an appointment early or late enough in the day to take advantage of flexi time.  And I don't want to have to take a whole day off work just to get a dental check up! 

So I've given up trying to get to the dentist this year.  I'll have to wait until next year when, hopefully, I'm not working.

   Laura




gentlethistle -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:44:43 PM)

MRSA:   http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleID=252

Ooops, sorry, that was in reply to minnetar's question.




darkinshadows -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:47:50 PM)

Hello minnetar
 
MRSA or ,methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus which is a socalled 'superbug'.  Which basically means its a type of bug (or rather a collection) that is resistant to most types of antibiotics.  Basically, in the UK the hospitals are having a tough time  with patients who catch this bug whilst in hospital, because of open wounds and those vulnerable to infection.  It causes pneumonia(which my unkle now has), skin lesions and septicemia, depending where the infection attacks/takes hold.
 
To be blunt, its about dirty wards and bad hygiene in hospitals.
 
Peace




minnetar -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:48:50 PM)

Laura,
thanks for the link on MRSA.  Wonder if it was secondary to being in the hospital for the surgery.   oops there i go again practicing without a license.

minnetar




minnetar -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:49:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

Hello minnetar
 
MRSA or ,methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus which is a socalled 'superbug'.  Which basically means its a type of bug (or rather a collection) that is resistant to most types of antibiotics.  Basically, in the UK the hospitals are having a tough time  with patients who catch this bug whilst in hospital, because of open wounds and those vulnerable to infection.  It causes pneumonia(which my unkle now has), skin lesions and septicemia, depending where the infection attacks/takes hold.
 
To be blunt, its about dirty wards and bad hygiene in hospitals.
 
Peace




Dark,
thanks as we must have been responding at the same time.

minnetar




Mercnbeth -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:52:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: minnetar

Thanks so much for the reply Merc and i appreciate Your thoughtfulness in regards to Your company.  i wonder if there is a longer wait list for more commonly done tests such as a mammogram.  Just a thought.

minnetar


Are you saying that more woman are willing to have their breasts smashed between two plates than there are men wanting to have their butts 'router routed'? I'd have to agree.

But seriously...

The problem was directly attributed to being in an HMO. beth was given access to one clinic inside the program. Going any place else would have required starting fresh with another Doctor and after his initial diagnosis going to his referral lab. Considering the time all that was scheduled and complete the appointment with the HMO place was quicker. However, the 10 day time frame wasn't routinely offered. It took a battle to get it, up close and personal with the clinic.

First, they didn't get the faxed Doctor's 'authorization'. Then it was approved for the mammogram but not the ultrasound that was necessary due to beth's particular breast physiology. I didn't accept the casual response and attitude they were giving, and stayed in their face until I felt I got the best I could from them. I think at the start, the first or 'normal' appointment was at the end of May.

By the time we showed up for the appointment for all the procedures and subsequent biopsy, they knew me and beth on a first hand basis and did not question the fact that I was going back into the procedure room to be there during the entire process. 

Like most things, you must be the best advocate for yourself.

You'll have to go back to some previous posts from 'darkinshadows'; the US expectation of timely testing is way out of proportion with what they put up with in the UK under their socialized medicine program. beth wouldn't have been eligible for a mammogram until the age of 50, and then its given on a three year rolling basis.

I'm not saying that the US health-care system is the "best" or can't be amended. However if we are looking to dramtically change the face of it I would not hold up the example of the UK as a positive improvement.




darkinshadows -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:54:13 PM)

NP...
The hosptial say they suspect it was due to him being in hospital and this is the likely place of infection.  The infection is centred around his scar and in his lungs.  He is extremely sick and still in hospital.  He has now been in hospital for nearly three times longer with MRSA than he was when he had his by-pass.
(They sent him home - and he had to be readmitted a couple of days later)
 
Peace




gentlethistle -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 12:55:48 PM)

minnetar

MRSA is quite a common hospital-acquired infection in the UK.   As the article explains, it's very prevalent on the skin among the general population but can be dangerous if people contract an infection after surgery etc.  Clostridium difficile (or C difficile) is another which is causing a lot of concern at the moment. Hospitals are all trying to instigate hand-washing procedures for all staff and visitors but MRSA doesn't seem to be going away.

Laura




minnetar -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 1:01:32 PM)

Dark and Laura - thanks so much for the responses as i love to learn.

Dark - i am not familiar with MRSA but i know the bypass operation has a long healing time.  Sounds like he hasn't even been able to do any physical therapy.  Do cardiac patients in the UK get to go to cardiac rehabilitation?  i found it to be extremely helpful in my recovery.

minnetar




darkinshadows -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 1:09:54 PM)

Unfortunately not to the extent that was intended initially.  He has been too unwell to undergo any exercise or attend the rehab, but I do believe there has been a therapist working with him.
 
Peace




minnetar -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 1:22:51 PM)

Well i am glad that he has the rehab scheduled even though currently he is not well enough to do it.  Since i underwent the surgery, i am familiar with the recovery and rehab.  Feel free to email me on the other side as i would be more than happy to help in anyway.


minnetar




darkinshadows -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 1:37:27 PM)

Thank you for your kindness minnetar, I will keep your offer in mind.
Peace and Rapture




DominaSmartass -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 2:33:34 PM)

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About the Dentist-Oh my God! Get back there! For God sakes I waited almost ten years one time and the first return was hell! The longer you wait, the more problems you'll have. I was so glad I had pretty dental assistants.


Here's my question. I have gone to the dentist at least once a year since birth (or whenever you start going) mostly twice a year till recently, being away at college and for work and not having access to my normal dentist... But as I have never had a cavity in my life and never any other problems with my teeth, what's really the point of spending all that money on them? I have started doubting the legitimacy of the dentist more and more. Yes, I still go once a year but I'm starting to rethink that as well.  Anyone have a real reason why someone with absolutely no oral health issues should go that often?




maybemaybenot -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 6:43:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

Anyone have a real reason why someone with absolutely no oral health issues should go that often?



Prevention ?  . Early detection of oral mucosal disease ?  Early diagnosis and treatment of oral disease? To make sure you continue to have absolutely no oral health issues ?

Bi annual cleanings help prevent gum disease and tooth decay. Plaque starts to build up in significant amounts with 90-120 days from your last cleaning, even if you floss and do all the right things.
As with most diseases prevention and early intervention is the key to minimozing the problem. IMO, the teeth/oral health is no different.
                     mbmbn




DominaSmartass -> RE: kinky people and health (5/15/2007 6:47:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

Anyone have a real reason why someone with absolutely no oral health issues should go that often?



Prevention ?  . Early detection of oral mucosal disease ?  Early diagnosis and treatment of oral disease? To make sure you continue to have absolutely no oral health issues ?

Bi annual cleanings help prevent gum disease and tooth decay. Plaque starts to build up in significant amounts with 90-120 days from your last cleaning, even if you floss and do all the right things.
As with most diseases prevention and early intervention is the key to minimozing the problem. IMO, the teeth/oral health is no different.
                     mbmbn


Hmm...ok. Well I'm far from being a dentist and since I've had no teeth issues in my life I just figured cavities were basically the only worry. Oh and gingevitis of course but that's what listerene is for right? ;)




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