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Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 7:59:26 PM

lewdy

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Im not sure of the protocols for posing questions I guess I'll soon be told.
Any answers to my queries would be greatly appreciated and also if you have played with this yourself.

1. Can anyone identify which vein in the neck to push which cuts the blood supply to the brain and results in fainting type feelings which in the right moment seems equisite ?

2. Are there any dangers to this type of play that I should be aware of ?

3. Does this type of play have name?

Fingers crossed mwah

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 8:13:49 PM

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1. The aorta supplies the brain with blood/oxygen. The jugular takes it away. Press on both and the person will pass out shortly, more quickly if the hyperventilate and then hold their breath.
2. Yes. You are suffocating the brain. Siezures are very likely. Perhaps you've heard of children dying when they play the 'choking game'? Same thing.
3. See above.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 8:20:26 PM

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I have a very good friend whose husband died by doing this type of play. She was 6 months pregnant and had a 2 year old son too. Bad way to go.

Yes, the dangers are very real and very, VERY permanent.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 8:30:53 PM

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I am sorry to hear that, MamaDomme. I used to play as a child. That's when my siezures (grand mal) began.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 8:39:24 PM

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Do you really need anything more than what the wise Women above me
have shared with you?

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 9:10:55 PM

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The carotid artery supplies blood to your brain and face. The Common Carotid Artery goes up about 2/3 of your neck and it branches into the External Carotid Artery, which supplies blood to your face and the Internal Carotid Artery, which goes to the brain. The Carotids carry oxygenated blood. The Jugular vein is the vessel that brings the de-oxygenated blood back out of your head. The carotid and jugular lay next to each other in your neck with the jugular being a little bit more to the lateral, or outer neck. The walls of arteries are hard and the walls of the veins are more soft and pliable, therefore it is the jugular vein(s) that gets compressed in that kind of play and it stops the blood draining back out of the head which prevents more oxygenated blood from getting to the brain. It doesn't take much pressure to compress the jugular veins. This is also why your leg falls asleep sometimes when you are sitting a certain way, the veins can easily get compressed.

You would have to press REALLY hard to compress the carotid artery and that is not a good idea at all. If there is plaque in the vessel it could break off and go up to the brain and cause a stroke.

I really don't know if even doing the vein is a good idea. Back when I was in junior high some friends and I were playing around and one of them did it to me. It did not take long for me to black out and I went face down on a hard tile floor and got a concussion (no, nobody caught me, we were idiot kids.) However, I don't know of any dangers of doing it other than making sure that someone doesn't fall on their head on a hard floor or something similar. That doesn't mean there aren't any though!!

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 9:16:28 PM

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Thanks for the clear identification of veins and the clear consequences but from what level of play Im sorry but yes I still need more answers.
I have had this done to me and at the point of pass out which was very obvious to me, the veins been released. And the rush or drop was over immediately
In this context it seems safe to play with what do yu think?

Kitte9 are you saying that you have grand mal seizures now as a result of this play as a child- I must ask how far the play went in those circumstances was it both veins being held, were you passing out before it was released I wonder.
I do need to unravel it a little more if possible

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 9:35:11 PM

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Thanks Cabernet your detail is really helpful.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 9:40:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lewdy

Thanks for the clear identification of veins and the clear consequences but from what level of play Im sorry but yes I still need more answers.
I have had this done to me and at the point of pass out which was very obvious to me, the veins been released. And the rush or drop was over immediately
In this context it seems safe to play with what do yu think?

Ok, what do i think? i think maybe you've played this "game" to much already.
Blood supplies oxygen to the brain, a neccessity for it's function. An individual
can die, or at least become brain dead in as little as four minutes. (any CPR
class will tell you that) Is the thrill that you aren't even experiencing because
you've blacked out worth that risk? <SLAP> Snap out it, or we'll be playing
a little game of "hide and seek" with what's left of you! You'll hide the fact
that you're a conscious human being, and we'll seek a nice home for you to
waste away in.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 9:42:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MamaDomme

I have a very good friend whose husband died by doing this type of play. She was 6 months pregnant and had a 2 year old son too. Bad way to go.

... plus that awful thing that happened to her poodle in the microwave.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 9:44:58 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kitte9

I am sorry to hear that, MamaDomme. I used to play as a child. That's when my siezures (grand mal) began.

And now Epilepsy is caused by momentary vascular restriction.

Please.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 9:50:34 PM

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Because something is dangerous is'nt that more reason to discuss and not just negate the question or my need to understand it more.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:10:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lewdy

Because something is dangerous is'nt that more reason to discuss and not just negate the question or my need to understand it more.

I think you're exactly right, lewdy. And discussion of the actual risks without all the bullshit hyperventilating about how six of my best friends died of this yesterday while on a secret mission for the CIA would be really refreshing.

Welcome to the land of "If I Don't Have the Balls or the Inclination to Try It, It's Morally Wrong and Anyone Who Likes It is Stupid or Evil."

My partners have described a dull green cast coming over their field of vision, sparkling lights, and--you know--terror.

Of course sparkling lights are a hard limit for some people.

I hope someone with the appropriate expertise in anatomy / physiology will respond to your question. Activities as risky as this should be treated with care, not hyperbole.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:11:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lewdy

Because something is dangerous is'nt that more reason to discuss and not just negate the question or my need to understand it more.

Because something is "dangerous", pretty much negates it for me.

i think the discussion has already informed you of a type of "play"
which could have catastrophic results.

What is it about that which you don't understand?

i suppose if you wait long enough, someone will offer their blessings.

Just not me.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:31:48 PM

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Driving a car can have catastrophic results, getting out of bed can leave some people with permanent disc damage.
Yes your position chia is clearly understood. I was after advice rather than positions.
Thanks Noah for your support I was in need of it lol

I would still be interested to hear from people brave enough to admit to any practical experience of this play, especially those fully conscious an all of the risks.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:32:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

quote:

ORIGINAL: lewdy

Because something is dangerous is'nt that more reason to discuss and not just negate the question or my need to understand it more.

I think you're exactly right, lewdy. And discussion of the actual risks without all the bullshit hyperventilating about how six of my best friends died of this yesterday while on a secret mission for the CIA would be really refreshing.

Welcome to the land of "If I Don't Have the Balls or the Inclination to Try It, It's Morally Wrong and Anyone Who Likes It is Stupid or Evil."

My partners have described a dull green cast coming over their field of vision, sparkling lights, and--you know--terror.

Of course sparkling lights are a hard limit for some people.

I hope someone with the appropriate expertise in anatomy / physiology will respond to your question. Activities as risky as this should be treated with care, not hyperbole.

Hmmm, maybe that's why God put those balls down under the head with no brain.
Let's review, risks discussed already, (granted without a PHD, though anatomy is
common subject of understanding), damage to the brain, or worst case senerio
death. Apparently lewdy, some have tried and lived, though personally, i'll
gaze out over the city for that sparkling light effect, walking in the morning
without half my face having lost it's gravity. But i'm a novice you understand,
so i don't know much, but i know dangerous.

With Love and Respect, chia* (the pet)

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:40:08 PM

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Im not after blessings and Ive clearly stated the level Ive played at, no passing out for me.
I just want to understand the risks, clearly passing out and 4 minutes of no blood to the brain may result in a number of issues including death it has been suggested.
It seems the focus has been on the extreme end of the spectrum, there is always a middle ground, my survival is proof.
So what is the middle ground?

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:47:56 PM

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Why be so catty about the discussion Chia, you asked for that response from Noah given your previous put downs of me. If you dont like the topic choose to move on.

And Chia there's no love or respect coming from you

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:51:18 PM

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Looks like people are going for the jugular

*ducks*

I love breath play/choke play/nerve play all that stuff. But really I've decided for me that I'm pretty much only ok with covering the mouth and nose with my own hands. Anything else is too risky for me.

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RE: Neck Vein Play - 5/18/2007 10:51:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lewdy

Im not after blessings and Ive clearly stated the level Ive played at, no passing out for me.
I just want to understand the risks, clearly passing out and 4 minutes of no blood to the brain may result in a number of issues including death it has been suggested.
It seems the focus has been on the extreme end of the spectrum, there is always a middle ground, my survival is proof.
So what is the middle ground?

Apparently lewdy, you already know it, you have survived such
by your own admittance. It's when they push your limits that the
"extreme" may come into play. Ask yourself if it is worth the risk.
"911, what's your emergency?" "Well we were solidly standing on
middle ground when the unexpected happened, OMG!"

With Love and Respect, chia* (the pet)

With Love and Respect, chia* (the pet)

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