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question for old guard - 5/19/2007 9:37:14 AM

justplainjava

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Greetings Sirs
I have a questions for those who are of the old guard ways’
You have a slave you have has limits against some of the hard core ways of playing. Such as you can not tie her up force her head back, with a funnel I her mouth and either pee or cum in her mouth, not that is have ever been a enjoyment of hers and for health reasons, she can not do, it
But what ever the case she can not be use is many of the extreme darker pleasure,
It is not your place and basic obligation to remove your collar from her,
She can serve domestic, in fact she fines deepen pleasure in it but it is not what you collar her for.
Plus once and as continually beg for her release, it is not within the rules of your way of life to full fill that.
Plus all you have done is accuse her of being a drama queen so it is apparent she bring no more pleasure,
Should she not be un collar from you
Take care and be safe
Plain of java property to no one

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:02:08 AM

MstrssPassion

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huh?

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:03:03 AM

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I think she's trying to rally us all to agree that she should be released.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:04:49 AM

MstrssPassion

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she doesn't need our approval

if you don't like the rules... don't play the game

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:08:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think she's trying to rally us all to agree that she should be released.

Damn LA...you ought to be an interpreter...I read it twice and still only came up with "huh?".

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:11:16 AM

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I think that if you want to leave, you should. You don't really need anyone's permission to do so.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:13:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
Damn LA...you ought to be an interpreter...I read it twice and still only came up with "huh?".

Aw thanks, that's a great compliment!

I think she's confused and frustrated, doesn't feel she can do what her dom wants, but her dom won't release her and occasionall calls her a drama queen (which she might be, starting this sort of thread does lend itself to that personality).

But, as the others have said- it's your relationship, you either end it or stay in it.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:16:49 AM

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Give him a couple of these

& say later dude

From what you have attempted to say here & within your profile... you are involved with someone with whom you have no compatibilty with & possibly you are being made to feel like you must endure certain activities regardless of your personal comfort or physical ability.

Don't worry if you are following some sort of made-up protocol because I assure you what someone may be calling Old Guard is their own made version.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:17:24 AM

MasterFireMaam

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If you want out, just get up and leave. It has nothing to do with old guard and everything to do with you conquering your Victim archetype.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:20:26 AM

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I'm wondering if you will actually base your decision on what people say they think you should do on Collarme? LOL too much.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:27:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

If you want out, just get up and leave. It has nothing to do with old guard and everything to do with you conquering your Victim archetype.

Master Fire

And maybe it will inspire your buddy to conquer his "Old Guard" delusions.

I love a win-win.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:28:11 AM

mistoferin

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Well I would have to think that whatever the problem was it must be solved as she states in her post that she is property to no one and in the "Storing a Slave" post in random stupidity she refers to him as her "EX" Master.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:30:40 AM

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I love when you check out the background of posters, I hardly ever do that.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:32:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think she's confused and frustrated, doesn't feel she can do what her dom wants, but her dom won't release her and occasionall calls her a drama queen (which she might be, starting this sort of thread does lend itself to that personality).

I think she's already been released. At least that's what her 5/15 journal entry appears to claim, which makes her post even more cryptic.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:34:50 AM

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He wants stuff you either can't or won't do. He isn't willing to accept what you can do. You view your role differently, you want to provide service and he wants an edge player. You aren't compatible.

You don't need his permission to walk, just do so and call the cops if he keeps bothering you. Because that's stalking.

Old Guard? Unless he's an 80 year old gay male who was in WWII, he isn't a member.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:36:03 AM

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Maybe he came back and tried to tell her that she can't release herself? Got her all worked up and upset?

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:44:21 AM

mp072004

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This is a confusing message. I wonder if the author is being tripped up by the phrase "to beg for release". Begging for release, and releasing, is just how some d/s types like to talk about ending relationships--breaking up, in other words. If you want to end the relationship, you get to do so. You've agreed to obey, yes, and by ceasing to obey your master's request to continue the relationship, you've broken your agreement to obey--which is exactly what you want, to end the relationship. Just as in vanilla relationships, if you want to end the relationship and your partner doesn't want to, this generally makes the breakup tougher, but you still get to end it.

If I've misread, and you're saying that you're the one who want the relationship to continue but your partner/master/what have you doesn't, most of the above still applies. If both parties don't want to continue the relationship, it ends--often fraught with emotional difficulties, yes, but eventually it ends.

Best of luck.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 10:58:59 AM

MstrssPassion

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Maybe he came back and tried to tell her that she can't release herself? Got her all worked up and upset?

I looked at her profile & saw the contradictory information... this is why I came back with the flip him off & walk away post.

This whole idea that a sub/slave-type has no control over her fate is utter BS. If you don't like what's going on... then end it.

I would say that at least 80% of the people you will encounter that live in relationships that fall into this "lifestyle" will say that consent is the most important contingency in the success & validity of the relationship.

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 11:08:34 AM

justplainjava

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I am sorry i did not mean to be ambiguous but with the collar me police roaming about it is sometimes hard for a person to be to truley write my feeling or state what i am really meaning not because i dont want too but because if put down excalty what i meant the collar police would not appericated it
i was not seeking premisision to ask for my release for that i have already done, but instead of him doing that all he points out is why should he when i have limits from me doing certain scenes,
i usually comment to him is that is not me, so realease me, and he turns arounds and states why should i?
i know this is not making any sense but like i said we much becareful of big brother, which at times makes it hard to write one thoughts and feelings
take care and be safse
java

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RE: question for old guard - 5/19/2007 11:12:14 AM

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huh?

my thoughts exactly

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