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farglebargle -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/22/2007 5:11:33 PM)
Yeah, because the freaking Byzantine/Arab war from 632 to 750 was a tea party. And the Conquest of Persia back in 651 was so meaningless.. I guess the Conquest of Afghanistan in 870 didn't mean anything. Or Conquest of Transoxiana: 662-709 Conquest of Sindh: 664-712 Conquest of Hispania: 711-718 Conquest of the Caucasus: 711-750 End of the Umayyad conquests: 718-750 Conquest of Sudan: 700-900 Conquest of Italy: 831-902 Conquest of Anatolia: 1060-1360 And who could forget the Byzantine-Ottoman Wars: 1299-1453 Not to mention, except in passing the Ottoman Empire, the Safavid Empire of Persia, and the Mughal Empire of India.

Sinergy -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/22/2007 5:15:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Yeah, because the freaking Byzantine/Arab war from 632 to 750 was a tea party. And the Conquest of Persia back in 651 was so meaningless.. I guess the Conquest of Afghanistan in 870 didn't mean anything. Or Conquest of Transoxiana: 662-709 Conquest of Sindh: 664-712 Conquest of Hispania: 711-718 Conquest of the Caucasus: 711-750 End of the Umayyad conquests: 718-750 Conquest of Sudan: 700-900 Conquest of Italy: 831-902 Conquest of Anatolia: 1060-1360 And who could forget the Byzantine-Ottoman Wars: 1299-1453 Not to mention, except in passing the Ottoman Empire, the Safavid Empire of Persia, and the Mughal Empire of India. I cant wait to hear how Carter and the Democrats / Liberals were responsible, farglebargle. Sinergy p.s. Anybody needs me, I need to go make some popcorn.

dcnovice -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/22/2007 6:05:22 PM)
quote: He is one of the main reasons there is a hole where the towers used to be in NYC. Now we're blaming Carter for 9/11? I'm sure we'll hear next why Pearl Harbor was his fault too.

farglebargle -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/22/2007 6:10:51 PM)
Well, since Bill and Poppy Bush are on the fundraising tours together, Poppy asked W to lay off of Bill. Who else to blame if not Bill Clinton? As the Simpsons put it: "History's Greatest Monster!"

ElectraGlide -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/22/2007 11:16:58 PM)
Wow this Carter debate is intense here, I am learning alot, let me lighten thinks up for a second. Jimmy Carter was the President with the worst Leisure Suits in history.

popeye1250 -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/22/2007 11:22:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: This coming from the man who single handedly created the problems we have with radical Islamic fascism. What about the other 1300 years? Osama Bin Ladin attacked the World Trade Center towers on 9/11/2001. WHO TRAINED HIM IN TERRORIST TACTICS? Fargle, 1300 years? The U.S. has only been in existance for 230 years.

Sinergy -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/23/2007 12:13:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: This coming from the man who single handedly created the problems we have with radical Islamic fascism. What about the other 1300 years? Osama Bin Ladin attacked the World Trade Center towers on 9/11/2001. WHO TRAINED HIM IN TERRORIST TACTICS? Fargle, 1300 years? The U.S. has only been in existance for 230 years. Are you suggesting the first 200 years went along swimmingly, and then came The Evil That Is Carter? Sinergy p.s. I think his point was more about militant Islam than about the United States, popeye

Cuckme4Life -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/28/2007 2:31:31 PM)
I find it ironic there are people here still defending Carter and his "Bush prez" comments when after all Carter himself (THE WORSE PREZ IN AMERICAN HISTORY) has recanted his statements about the Dubya presidency.

DeviantlyD -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/28/2007 4:22:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth President Carter is the patron saint and founding father of radical Islam. Without him it is doubtful there would be radical Islam. You do not present any facts to back up that baseless accusation. The fact is, Islamic radicalism has existed long before Carter even began his campaign for presidency. For example, it's been said that al-Qaeda (as well as other fundamentalist groups) derived its base ideology from the Muslim Brotherhood, whose belief encompassed a resistance to western imperialism and the creation of an Islamic state. The Muslim Brotherhood has existed since 1928. I agree with minnetar. Rather than espouse a point of view here based solely on opinion, facts should be used when presenting an argument. It's far more convincing that way. :)

Sinergy -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/28/2007 4:26:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD I agree with minnetar. Rather than espouse a point of view here based solely on opinion, facts should be used when presenting an argument. It's far more convincing that way. :) While this is true, providing a fact to back up an opinion requires two things a) Willingness to research one's opinion b) Willingness to accept the fact that research may completely invalidate one's opinion. Many posters simply voice an incendiary opinion, fail to back it up, wait for the crap storm, and then stand off to one side and call everybody else too emotional to think clearly about the subject. Sinergy

DeviantlyD -> RE: President Jimmy Carter: Bush's impact "worst in history" (5/28/2007 4:43:07 PM)
LOL!! I have found b. to be true for me in some situations. Sometimes I cop to it, othertimes I don't. grins I was just dismayed over Mercnbeth's comment, particularly when I knew it wasn't true. I've been reading "Dying to Win". Near the beginning of the book, the author presents a history of suicide terrorism which has existed since earlist times in Islamic history. And as we are well aware, suicide terrorism is a tool used by Islamic radicals. The idea that Carter inspired Islamic fundamentalists to view the west as something to be destroyed in order to promote a universal Islamic state just seems to be giving Carter far too much credit.

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