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RE: Photos please - 10/10/2007 9:09:49 PM   
AFlyInYourWeb


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I would like to be the Devil's Advocate and advance a case against photographs too soon in the exchange.

I have always seen D/s as primarily occuring in the mind.  For that reason, I'd like a chance for a "mind-meld" [at least partially] before being influenced by her looks.  I don't want to miss an evil imagination or a wicked mind because she doesn't photograph well.

Because I have a job in the public eye [at least locally], I don't like to pass out my photos too easily, especially if the Domme is local.  I assume many good Dommes are in similar situations, or have UMs, or otherwise may not want to be recognized on CM for some perfectly legitimate reason of their own.

Photos have their limitations.  I've exchanged photos in the past, and yet upon first meeting found that there was no "chemistry" in spite of mutual good looks.

People without photos are not necessarily ashamed of their looks, or somehow less "real".  Not everyone wants their boss or sister to stumble across their picture on CM. 

Some of us cannot afford the consequences. 

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RE: Photos please - 10/11/2007 3:49:22 PM   
LadyLynx


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I will go with the general consensus on this subject.  However, a while back I got alittle annoyed at a sub that wouldn't send me his photo, but wanted me to meet him as soon as possible.  he said he was worried about someone stealing the photo. I replied back a smartassed comment,"well what if someone stealthly took your photo?" lol he didn't answear.  I wouldn't mind seeing LaTigress with a goofy face.  I like those who show their silly sides.

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RE: Photos please - 10/12/2007 7:49:00 AM   
YesMistressIrish


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I recently had a sub request another photo other than the one that's on my profile. I say I am blond, you can see I am blond in my photo, and use the word Irish (not dark skinned) etc.
He writes me back and tells me he's not attracted to me because I am not Hispanic or Asian.

It was good for a giggle.

Irish

ps: I always want to see several  photos first and have requested web cam when the pics looked too Ken-doll,  pulled a pic off the model internet pics...

< Message edited by YesMistressIrish -- 10/12/2007 7:52:46 AM >

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RE: Photos please - 10/12/2007 8:17:04 AM   
ocilla


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I will not put a pict on here.  If I am corresponding with you and we are clicking I will send a pict at the moment I think we might have potential.  At that point I want to make sure that they are comforatble with MY looks and I prefer a photo of them at that time as well.  I hate the idea of starting to feel a strong connection and then discovering that one or the other or both of us are just not physically attracted to the other.  And then on another note...it has happened on more than one occassion in my life that I was not initially physically attracted to a person but upon getting to know them their mind and personallity made them into an incredibly sexy and desirable fella.  It seems though that men are far less liekly to have such an experience....if the physical attraction is not there at the start it never seems to grow or change for them. 

Anyhow, not posting pics on my profile is something I do think that I owe my family and business obligations.  Thinking along the lines of consent...they are relying on me to fulfill a certain role that I've agreed too...putting at least a simple baseline of needing to make a connection with the person first seems very reasonable to me.

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RE: Photos please - 10/13/2007 7:04:31 AM   
cbtok


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It has been my experience that one's profile is looked at more often on the basis of a photo within that profile. So, if you want anyone to actually take the time to read your profile, a photo is a good idea. Of course there is ample evidence on CM that seems to indicate that one-handed webtrolls tend to never read anything, but their ravings are generally easy to spot.

Anyone can take a photo or crop an existing one for the purpose of reserving one's identity. If you're having a massive problem with that, please get in touch with me and I shall be very happy to crop any photograph to suit and return it. I also promise to destroy any photo received for that purpose.

I never send a message to anyone without also enclosing a photo. Might be the same photo I sent in a previous message but many people on CM delete all e-mails that do not contain a photo.

I think the inclusion of a photo with a message is fast becoming a "netiquette" thing on CM and other similar venues.

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RE: Photos please - 10/13/2007 7:11:33 AM   
DianeB269


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No photo in your profile = no reply.....

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RE: Photos please - 10/13/2007 7:20:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ebonyslave2u
I think collarme is a wonderful site. I do hope to meet a Mistress here. But is a photo always neccessary? To talk after an initial contact, then meet will tell you more about a person then any photo. But I find it quite difficult to meet  a Mistress without one. It is frustrating. I know there must be a lot of fakes and wankers, but it does make it excessively hard for the serious. I just wanted to put that out there for feed back. Thank you for your time. 


It’s a nice romantic idea that physical appearance isn’t important to someone but only their personality matters. My research leads me to believe that that is all it is, a romantic idea. People have preferences in terms of what someone looks like and to pretend otherwise is dishonest fantasy. You may not be attractive to everyone, no one is, but I can guarantee you that you’ll be attractive to someone.

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RE: Photos please - 10/13/2007 7:43:45 AM   
beeble


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I'm personally amused by at least one profile (which happens to be a Domme but that's not important) which has no photo but says that any message sent without a photo will be deleted.  I'm not willing to send a facial photo to somebody until I know I can trust them and I don't really see the point of sending anything else with an introductory letter.  Maybe that's because I'm a guy and there aren't many women pretending to be men so I don't have much to prove in that department.

But, hey, I'm not looking for anyone so this is just an intellectual exercise for me.

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RE: Photos please - 10/13/2007 8:15:12 AM   
pageturned


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I think there are two levels we could discuss this.
The first level is theoretical, about mutual consent. If  you require a picture to talk (your right), and I don't feel like sending it (my right), we're not going to talk. If you require a picture to meet (your right), and I don't fel like sending it (my right), we're not going to meet. In between, some different kinds of negotiations, which are pretty usual in every relationships, but  also sometimes tiresome. But in the end, it's a matter of respective will. Either they meet or they don't. Then, you may have a certain opinion about subs who don't want to share a picture, and you may have a certain opinion about Dommes who require a picture to reply. But in both cases it's free will, depending on sensitivity, personal agenda, past experiences, amount of contacts, and so on. Free will, to be respected. If I see in a profile a "no pic, no reply" policy, I don't contact her. I won't miss her, she won't miss me, as we're both looking for something different.
On a more personal level, I have no picture on my profile and I won't ever. As for sending, I haven't sent any so far, but I'm not ruling out the chance. I put some effort in writing my profile, and I'd like people to start to know me through it. Then, it's about talking  with a person that you get to know that person. Chemistry is in the mind first, in my opinion. Look follows. Then, I have to admit (shame on me) that I'm more likely to contact a Domme if she has a picture I like (and I'm not talking just about beauty; I'm talking about the expressiveness of photography as a means of communication) in her profile. But I have contacted Dommes with no picture at all. The final  word on chemistry is not given  neither by pictures (look), nor  by words (communication), but  by meeting (body language, reactions to each other, and  so on). We could talk about phone calls as well, or other identity verifications, but I'd go too far. The first meeting I had with a Domme was after months of email and phone calls, but we didn't know the look of the other (apart from a self description). Actually, while I have to admit again that I'd prefer to see a picture before meeting, it's also true that a blind meeting can add some mystery, and emotions, which is not bad. Obviously, as I prefer not to send pictures, I don't ask for them (or if I do, in one of my unforgivable moments of weakness, I say upfront that I wouldn't swap).
There's another point, just to advocate my position a little further. If I'm a submissive (ok, I am), and I take a plane to meet a Domme, in a public place, her city, for a coffee, what the Domme is risking is just a little time of her own. I'm risking hours, or days, and money. So I wouldn't say that I'm not serious. What I (selfishly? one-sidedly?) think is that after communicating so much, the Domme should understand the reasons why I'm not sharing a picture. If she doesn't, maybe she's not sensitive enough (for my standards), or I haven't been able to convey who I am.
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RE: Photos please - 10/14/2007 3:15:04 PM   
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I dont have a pic on my profile but will send one if asked, if people arent happy to send a picture thats fair enough, but they cant complain when some who demands a picture will have nothing to do with them

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RE: Photos please - 10/21/2007 10:45:29 AM   
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As I have said before I don't send out photographs before a meeting.
The reasons are very complex.
But mainly
1 They don't really tell you anything about the person. Not even what they look like. Most people put on  the best photograph of themselves.
2 If we are both interested enough ie the connection is strong enough it won't really matter
3 The most important thing is why we are in the lifestyle I think.
4 People place far too high an importance on looks.
He may sound like a pain in the butt but page has it right I think.
If we want to adhere to vanilla ideas then the vanilla world is where we ought to be.
Being some man's physical ideal isn't going to make me the right Domme for him. Not for long anyway. And neither is he being my physical ideal going to make him the right sub for me. D/s is deeper than that. But then I'm an idealist.

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RE: Photos please - 10/21/2007 12:49:27 PM   
CollegeConundrum


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A lot of people don't understand, no pictures isn't simply about deception, it's about protection of privacy and a public life.  That's what it is in my case.  I have no problem sending pictures to people, I've becom comfortable with and have talked to for a time.  I'm not going to send a picture to someone who will flitter off after 2 or 3 emails or after they see my dog-ugly mug.

Then again, whether people will admit it or not, superficiality is a major subliminal factor about how people are initially attracted.

And just for posterity, yes, I have read profiles and emailed people with no pictures.  Oddly enough, most of them have turned out to be worthless like those I've contacted with pictures.

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RE: Photos please - 10/22/2007 1:19:08 PM   
pageturned


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quote:

ORIGINAL: lateralist1


He may sound like a pain in the butt but page has it right I think.



Do I really sound like that (and I was right)? Thinking again ...not sure I want to know the answer ...nor what I may sound when I'm wrong ...

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