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Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 2:50:20 PM   
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      I have asked this question in chat rooms and I am always sort of surprised at the answers I get.   You have met the perfect Dom(me).   Everything about him/her is near perfect except you are a smoker and he/she can not tolerate it and won't tolerate it, do you give the butts the old heave ho or pass on this Dom(me) and wait for one who smokes.   Or on the flip side, the Dom(me) is a smoker and you as the submissive can not stand it, would you deal with it or move on?
    Just a FYI, I am a former smoker.
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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 2:54:11 PM   
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Melissa smokes. I do not. I would dearly love for her to quit but I will not order her to; this is one thing she has to decide on her own. It bothers me health wise, but other than that, I have no issues with it. I will say though that she does not smoke around me or in the house; she always goes elsewhere.
 
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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 2:56:34 PM   
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I don't deal with it.  I don't tell them they have to quit either.  They decide for themselves what they want.  But they cannot have both.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 2:58:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I don't deal with it.  I don't tell them they have to quit either.  They decide for themselves what they want.  But they cannot have both.


The same for me also.


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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:01:03 PM   
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Everyone has preferences and smoking is simply that for a non smoker.  And as a non smoker, I never contemplated a relationship with a smoker and considered it a limit on any relationship.
 
However I met a wonderful man and he is a cigar smoker.  It never really crossed my mind to not be in a relationship with him once we had met and so, found my limit passed.  You can, as a submissive person, accept it or move on - I am of the belief that sometimes, you simply cannot control who your submission responds to but you do have a choice as to whether you embrace your feelings and submission.  I chose to believe myself embrace it.
 
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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:10:11 PM   
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It's a deal breaker for me. I wouldn't even meet with someone that was a smoker.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:14:21 PM   
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I can't stand cigarette smoke.  My sense of smell is not very keen, but there are certain things that I can detect very well.  Blood, sex, cigarette smoke, burning oil or coolant, and almost anything else burning, to name a few.  While most of the above don't bother me, I absolutely detest cigarette smoke.  It permeates everything in its vicinity, including the furniture, any clothes I'm wearing, carpet, food (ewww), and at a friend's home, I moved a picture on the wall and there was a clear outline from where the wall had been stained.  If it does that to everything around it (which, naturally, would include my body), I want nothing to do with it.  It's just plain nasty.  On the other hand, I have no qualms with former smokers; if their belongings don't stink anymore and they don't reak of it, I'm ok.  Just my $0.02...

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:15:10 PM   
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No surprise that you're a former smoker.  They tend to be more sensative in this area.
 
Yes, I smoke, and to be honest, I prefer that My habits be matched.  Just seems to work out better that way.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:30:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jaunty1

Melissa smokes. I do not. I would dearly love for her to quit but I will not order her to; this is one thing she has to decide on her own. It bothers me health wise, but other than that, I have no issues with it. I will say though that she does not smoke around me or in the house; she always goes elsewhere.
 
Live well
 
Alex


You are gracious Alex.
Both of us smoke, but I recently have been diagnosed with a heart condition for which I have told, stopping smoking will be of benefit health wise.  I agree.
Sir casually, never demanding,never mocking or scoffing, asks... "hows the smoking going?"  I tell him the truth.
He understands that ceasing the habit is and will be difficult.  As I slow down, he is pleased.  If there is stress that blows it back up, he doesnt punish me.
 
Would I leave a partner for it?  It depends on how great the D type was and if he too saw it as a health issue.  I have both, and he is pateint with my health issues and quitting.  He also is interested in slowing down...  *smile

I think that if someone does not tolerate a smoker for health issues for the ashtray syndrome issues....yes move on for another D or s type.  Quitting is a beyacth. 

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:31:52 PM   
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No go. Master Right would have to ditch the butts, permanently. I have a horrible physical reaction to semen that has ANY nicotine, etc in it, I have a few scars from when I was married, my exhusband smoked and when his semen woudl get on my skin it would leave marks.

I have met people who were smokers, I make it clear I am asthmatic and I enjoy breathing, they can smoke after they see me, if they can't resist, then I leave. Simple enough. They can commit slow sucide around someone else.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:39:38 PM   
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I'm not overly fearful of making My well considered conclusions sound a tad final and not open to debate once the evidence of addiction is recognized not to mention the health risks to everyone within the miasmic smokeclouds influences.
  My female does not, has not smoked, but has been around parents, husbands, relatives, friends, cafes, stores of all kinds and suffers COPD and pulmonary insuffiencys that has caused her heart problems. She's gorgeous, chunky the way, I like her, blah, blah, blah. I gave up nicotine addictions for her just over two years ago, but, I still find Myself reaching for a pack of smokes ever so often during those times that, I mostly smoked before.
  My lungs and ability to breath better has improved dramatically and My doctor and her staff are still supportive of Me whenever, I'm in the clinic. The genuine expressions of pride in their successful regimen to erase My addiction is apparent whenever, I reply in the positive as to still being intentionally nicotine free. Those that smoke in the casinos, in the Freemont Experience, concerts and those bars that don't serve food provides us with the unwanted stench of burning tobacco, a nasty smell with deadly consequences for all that are exposed to it.
  My House is goal oriented, poly-fidelity and there are none that smoke now. No tobacco chewing or snuff dipping. No nicotine enemas (No, I'm not kidding) that are capable of causing immediate death, depending on the dosage.
  My youngest female had the most difficulty ceasing smoking because she enjoyed the nicotine effects, but she stopped and has been recovering for just over a year.
  ADDICTIONs causes one to lose control of their reason and sensibilities; habituating drugs such as nicotine devalues our lives in socio-economic traumas that are devastating not to mention the inescapeable detrimental effects on us physicially... How many times have we witnessed people leaving a non-smoking area to snatch a smoke and come back reeking of the burnt leaf.. No, not that leaf, I'd recommend spending a few extra dinars and buy the bud, the leaf can be harsh. lol
  My friends, associates and guest are told prior to visiting us that there's no smoking in the newer adobe hacienda that we've moved into. Our patio or front porch are equipped with snad vessels for their butts. Spitters are persona non gratia (sic?) if they're chewing or dipping.
  Ahhhh, ummmm, what was the question?
  For our healths sake, I refuse to entertain the capture or purchase of property's that smoke, dip or chew tobacco products, crack, crank, powder, smack,  or anyother addictive or harmful materials. Huffers are excluded, too. Most of them have a tendency to display their gradual decline in intellect with continued usage.
  No, I'm not a hardass in everyday affairs with those around Me, I've mellowed considerably with the passing Seasons, I detest having to raise My voice above polite conversation or a few extra decibels whenever, I'm doing a demo or lecturing and having to shout for a property that's stealing time from their service to Me, the House and their chain coffle mates because they're sneaking a smoke and will be returning smelling and tasting like an ashtray,,,, ugh, eck, gag,  lol
Gentry
PS: I'd surmise from what, I've written that My answer is probably a large and loud "NO!", but, I might have erred and I'll never klnow without comment because, I never spellcheck, edit, etc because, I'm a hunt 'n' peck typist and,,,,,,,,
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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

     I have asked this question in chat rooms and I am always sort of surprised at the answers I get.   You have met the perfect Dom(me).   Everything about him/her is near perfect except you are a smoker and he/she can not tolerate it and won't tolerate it, do you give the butts the old heave ho or pass on this Dom(me) and wait for one who smokes.   Or on the flip side, the Dom(me) is a smoker and you as the submissive can not stand it, would you deal with it or move on?
   Just a FYI, I am a former smoker.


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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:42:06 PM   
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no smoking, I can't/won't be in a relationship with a smoker.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:44:39 PM   
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smoke makes my head hurt and I can't stand the way a smoker tastes when I kiss them.  So if you want me, you have to quit. 

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:45:52 PM   
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I'm a smoker...trying to kick it, but I'm a smoker. Daddy has pretty much kicked the habit, but I wouldn't take it amiss if someone did not want to have a relationship with me based on that. There are people I don't bother with for more petty reasons than smoking, and smoking is a big deal.
 
It's just like any other health preference, although, I'm as active as they come. It's a preference, and I wouldn't try to change anyone's mind.
 
But, if the perfect person came along and smoking was the only issue, then I think I could look past it or work with it. Generally, though, smoking isn't the only issue.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:48:03 PM   
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i have chronic bronchitis and am prescribed 2 inhalers as needed. too much cigarette smoke makes it difficult for me to breathe ....plus my eyes will water. so if Daddy and my secondary smoked,  i would never accept them as my Doms. besides kising someone who's a smoker leaves a very disgusting aftertaste.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:50:03 PM   
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Master is perfect for me in every way so i don't let his smoking stop me from having a wonderful relationship.  However i requested he do not smoke in my house and he honored that request.  He really does not smoke much around me so that does not bother me.  I would like him to quit for his health but he is not going to so i don't push the issue.

Hmmm a non smoker or a great Master?  I will take the great Master any day.  Not that i am saying non smokers can't be great Masters just the fact that my Master is a smoker did not make me pass on him.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 3:52:33 PM   
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My mother's smoked almost sense the day I was born. I've just kind of gotten used to it, I suppose.

Just try and take a mint before kissing, that's all I'd ask.


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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 4:02:30 PM   
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Smoking is a major issue for me. I have a very sensitive nose, and even the smell on someone's clothing makes my stomach churn. I could not, would not, take on a submissive who smoked. Fortunately, my dear houseboy is a non-smoker.

On the other hand (and this may sound hypocritical) we do smoke shisha (tobacco coated in flavoured molasses) out of a shisha pipe, or hookah. It's not often, less than once a month, and shisha tobacco does not contain any added chemicals, nor have we found the scent to stay in the room or adhere to our clothing. If I were to find it objectionable, he would quit. I would do the same for my boy, as I love him more than I care about a bit of shisha to relax. It is more the ritual than the shisha itself we enjoy.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 4:05:15 PM   
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As an asthmatic, smoking would be a deal breaker.  And while I would love to be the one who trained my slave not to smoke, an addiction is something that has to come from within.  I could really only give her one chance.  Because if she isn't able to fight the need for my sake, she'd be better off with someone for whom that need doesn't matter.

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RE: Toss the butts or Pass on the Dom - 5/22/2007 4:14:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Squeakers

     I have asked this question in chat rooms and I am always sort of surprised at the answers I get.   You have met the perfect Dom(me).   Everything about him/her is near perfect except you are a smoker and he/she can not tolerate it and won't tolerate it, do you give the butts the old heave ho or pass on this Dom(me) and wait for one who smokes.   Or on the flip side, the Dom(me) is a smoker and you as the submissive can not stand it, would you deal with it or move on?
   Just a FYI, I am a former smoker.



i currently smoke but hope to quit fairly soon.  i have been smoke-free for as long as a year before, and i thought then that rabid non-smokers were off-kilter s'how.
 
i guess the decision to quit/tolerate smoking would be individual, but what would interest me would be whether the Dom/me was inflexible/disrespectful of my needs in other areas or if S/He was just a nut about one thing.
 
IME, nuts are nuts.

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