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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 10:08:02 AM   
Arastella


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ORIGINAL: MistressDarling

Woooooah, people. Calm it down a notch. My referee shirt is in the wash. *wink*

Hon, you either need to talk to him about it or leave. I don't think its fair that you have to sit around wondering just because it might be considered "out of line" to ask.  Chances are, he's just being moody. Men are just as bad as we are once a month, LOL. If he refuses to talk, continue to be supportive. Snuggle up to him at night and tell him that you still love him, even if he is being a grouchy-butt.

Part of your role as a submissive is to be there for your Owner during tough times. Bailing now wouldn't be fair to him, especially if he's having troubles. Showing him unconditional love and support will help to fix things quicker than "being a brat" and waiting for him to come around. Think about it. Its easier to open up to people who are there for you, who show patience and understanding, even when you're being unreasonable. Make sense?

Men aren't like women. We talk about our problems at great length to our friends and loved ones. They take the "tough man" approach and keep it inside.

Whatever path you choose to take, I wish you the best of luck. *smooches*
Chances are, he's just being moody. Men are just as bad as we are once a month, LOL. If he refuses to talk, continue to be supportive. Snuggle up to him at night and tell him that you still love him, even if he is being a grouchy-butt.

Hun, love your insight.  And that comment made me laugh, thanks.


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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 10:21:48 AM   
Arastella


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You know what, I have just realized that these bizarre problems are stemming from a mood disorder that he's got. Christ, that explains a LOT, probably explains everything. The paranoia, the sudden irrational switches of perspective, the lengthy inexplicable rages triggered by trivial things, and the contrasting bouts of severe self-doubt and depression following the rages.

I should say to anyone who's thought all I do is "whine" is that on the GOOD days he is an absolute pleasure to be around, and that I don't bother writing long posts about the good days since I am perfectly content. The GOOD days last for about a month or two at a time, which is just long enough to feel relieved and start to believe that the problems are over. It's just that the BAD days (which have lasted around 1 week at a stretch) are so frightening and honestly so bizarre, the personality changes in him are stunning. Now that explains why I tend to post several times in short succession about a lot of different problems, because this is in reality the way it is happening. Imagine your partner switching from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde like this through no fault of his own, and you'll know it's both hard to cope and hard to give up on the person... because you see who they are apart from the disorder and love them for it.

If any of you have been in relationships (or possibly yourself) with people who have mood disorders, you will know why I am reaching out and practically grasping at straws. Hopefully have a little compassion or just ignore me if my posting irritates you. Thank you to the lovely people who have been so supportive and held my hand through this latest descent into hell. My Master has just snapped out of it today around lunchtime and is incredibly confused, paralyzed by guilt, terrified of himself and emotionally exhausted. He needs medical help.
Raises hand up high and hops up and down.  Yeeeeaaah.  I know PERSONALLY what he's going through.  I have a mood disorder of my own.  I can personally say it is a curse.  When I hit moments like that, I get so angry and I feel I am completely validated for being upset and don't understand why people are mad at ME and don't understand my side of things.  I get so angry at times it brings me to angry tears.  It doesn't necessarily happen for as long as it does him, for me, but I tell ya, all this sounds SO familiar.  Medical help?  *nods*  If ya'll have insurance, have him see a therapist, and perhaps suggest Xannax or Abilify or something.  I've taken a GREAT deal of meds for this problem.  Best of luck.  My Mistress knows what you're going through because She deals with ME.  Lol!  Sometimes its easier to be the Dom dealing with a submissive with problems like this!

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 10:33:15 AM   
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Hi there.  I am Arasella's Mistress.  She told me about this thread and how similar it was to her own problems, so I wanted to comment myself as well, since I have experienced this type of feeling myself.  When your Master is having one of his moods, what you need to remember is to step back and realize that it isn't your fault.  If he's got this disorder, then it's him, it is NOT you.  And since you do say that there are those good times, learn to embrace that and enjoy it to the fullest.  I didn't understand this at first, since My little one would suddenly snap and yell at Me and bark at Me, and I'd punish her for it, not knowing back then that she couldn't help it in the first place.  What I do now is I sit her down and talk to her about what she's feeling or if she's really upset, I just step back and give her space to cool down.  The one thing I will say is if your Master starts using violence towards you when he's angry, thats when his problem would become no longer your problem.

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 10:43:07 AM   
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If it is a mood disorder, get the man some meds!

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 10:45:09 AM   
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He sounds like a real ass.  Maybe my wonderful D has been spoiling me with affection <g>, but I really don't think any man should be treating his sub/slave or ladyfriend like that.  There is no excuse for it, no justification whatsoever.  The basis of ANY relationship is communuication, and if he has problems, he should talk to you about it.  If he had any self-control or confidence in himself whatsoever, he would talk to you about it.  I would be gone quite quickly...

Then again, I do not know your exact situation, and it is difficult to gauge such things with just a few words.  The question I present is this... do you think he is worth putting up with long enough to discover the root of his issues?  More than that, can you handle his issues when/if he decides you are worth communicating with?  If not, again, I suggest you get out of there. 
Yep no excuse at all... except perhaps a mental disorder.

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 11:53:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SerenityBlue

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ORIGINAL: Indemnis

He sounds like a real ass.  Maybe my wonderful D has been spoiling me with affection <g>, but I really don't think any man should be treating his sub/slave or ladyfriend like that.  There is no excuse for it, no justification whatsoever.  The basis of ANY relationship is communuication, and if he has problems, he should talk to you about it.  If he had any self-control or confidence in himself whatsoever, he would talk to you about it.  I would be gone quite quickly...

Then again, I do not know your exact situation, and it is difficult to gauge such things with just a few words.  The question I present is this... do you think he is worth putting up with long enough to discover the root of his issues?  More than that, can you handle his issues when/if he decides you are worth communicating with?  If not, again, I suggest you get out of there. 
Yep no excuse at all... except perhaps a mental disorder.


Exactly !  Someone with a mental disorder does not have the ability to just "snap out of it". Your submissive is very lucky to have such an understanding and compassionate Mistress. I feel sorry for those who are so quick to judge and condemn a person for having a disorder that really is something beyond their control, or for the person that is only reaching out for a little support and help. 

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 12:00:19 PM   
Arastella


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ORIGINAL: BeautySleeping

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ORIGINAL: SerenityBlue

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ORIGINAL: Indemnis

He sounds like a real ass.  Maybe my wonderful D has been spoiling me with affection <g>, but I really don't think any man should be treating his sub/slave or ladyfriend like that.  There is no excuse for it, no justification whatsoever.  The basis of ANY relationship is communuication, and if he has problems, he should talk to you about it.  If he had any self-control or confidence in himself whatsoever, he would talk to you about it.  I would be gone quite quickly...

Then again, I do not know your exact situation, and it is difficult to gauge such things with just a few words.  The question I present is this... do you think he is worth putting up with long enough to discover the root of his issues?  More than that, can you handle his issues when/if he decides you are worth communicating with?  If not, again, I suggest you get out of there. 
Yep no excuse at all... except perhaps a mental disorder.


Exactly !  Someone with a mental disorder does not have the ability to just "snap out of it". Your submissive is very lucky to have such an understanding and compassionate Mistress. I feel sorry for those who are so quick to judge and condemn a person for having a disorder that really is something beyond their control, or for the person that is only reaching out for a little support and help. 
I must hug you now!  *huggles*
That made my day and Mistress says thank you.  Yes.... thank you for understanding. 

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 1:00:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SerenityBlue

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ORIGINAL: Indemnis

He sounds like a real ass.  Maybe my wonderful D has been spoiling me with affection <g>, but I really don't think any man should be treating his sub/slave or ladyfriend like that.  There is no excuse for it, no justification whatsoever.  The basis of ANY relationship is communuication, and if he has problems, he should talk to you about it.  If he had any self-control or confidence in himself whatsoever, he would talk to you about it.  I would be gone quite quickly...

Then again, I do not know your exact situation, and it is difficult to gauge such things with just a few words.  The question I present is this... do you think he is worth putting up with long enough to discover the root of his issues?  More than that, can you handle his issues when/if he decides you are worth communicating with?  If not, again, I suggest you get out of there. 
Yep no excuse at all... except perhaps a mental disorder.


I posted all that in reply to the OP... I was too lazy to run through and read all the other stuff pre-post.  :P 
I edited that long thing to say.. just get him some meds.. apparantly it didn't edit very rapidly.. >_>

Edited yet again to say... it's nothing to do with leaping to condemn someone so much as, if someone is mistreating their girl, said girl should get out of the relationship.  Mood disorder is swell... but get him on meds before he ends up getting violent or something

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 1:10:24 PM   
Arastella


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ORIGINAL: Indemnis

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ORIGINAL: SerenityBlue

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ORIGINAL: Indemnis

He sounds like a real ass.  Maybe my wonderful D has been spoiling me with affection <g>, but I really don't think any man should be treating his sub/slave or ladyfriend like that.  There is no excuse for it, no justification whatsoever.  The basis of ANY relationship is communuication, and if he has problems, he should talk to you about it.  If he had any self-control or confidence in himself whatsoever, he would talk to you about it.  I would be gone quite quickly...

Then again, I do not know your exact situation, and it is difficult to gauge such things with just a few words.  The question I present is this... do you think he is worth putting up with long enough to discover the root of his issues?  More than that, can you handle his issues when/if he decides you are worth communicating with?  If not, again, I suggest you get out of there. 
Yep no excuse at all... except perhaps a mental disorder.


I posted all that in reply to the OP... I was too lazy to run through and read all the other stuff pre-post.  :P 
I edited that long thing to say.. just get him some meds.. apparantly it didn't edit very rapidly.. >_>

Edited yet again to say... it's nothing to do with leaping to condemn someone so much as, if someone is mistreating their girl, said girl should get out of the relationship.  Mood disorder is swell... but get him on meds before he ends up getting violent or something
Agreed

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 1:26:23 PM   
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Hey he's doing so great on meds.... and yeah, whatever, getting out of a marriage is not something to take so lightly like dropping your guinea pig off at the animal shelter.... especially for a problem that's so easily treated... or if it is to be taken lightly, they probably shouldn't have taken those "till death do you part" vows which by the way I took seriously.

Anyhow I should start a New Thread called "happy today" because since he got on the antidepressants he's been good as gold and in fact even much a better dom than when I first met him! Woohoo!

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 1:59:51 PM   
Arastella


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Hey he's doing so great on meds.... and yeah, whatever, getting out of a marriage is not something to take so lightly like dropping your guinea pig off at the animal shelter.... especially for a problem that's so easily treated... or if it is to be taken lightly, they probably shouldn't have taken those "till death do you part" vows which by the way I took seriously.

Anyhow I should start a New Thread called "happy today" because since he got on the antidepressants he's been good as gold and in fact even much a better dom than when I first met him! Woohoo!
Major congrats to you.  Way to go!

P.S. Whats he taking?  It may be something to request of my psych.

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 2:10:04 PM   
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Exactly !  Someone with a mental disorder does not have the ability to just "snap out of it". Your submissive is very lucky to have such an understanding and compassionate Mistress. I feel sorry for those who are so quick to judge and condemn a person for having a disorder that really is something beyond their control, or for the person that is only reaching out for a little support and help. 

I must hug you now!  *huggles*
That made my day and Mistress says thank you.  Yes.... thank you for understanding. 



* hugs back*  I can always use a hug... 

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 2:19:37 PM   
Arastella


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ORIGINAL: Arastella

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ORIGINAL: BeautySleeping




Exactly !  Someone with a mental disorder does not have the ability to just "snap out of it". Your submissive is very lucky to have such an understanding and compassionate Mistress. I feel sorry for those who are so quick to judge and condemn a person for having a disorder that really is something beyond their control, or for the person that is only reaching out for a little support and help. 

I must hug you now!  *huggles*
That made my day and Mistress says thank you.  Yes.... thank you for understanding. 



* hugs back*  I can always use a hug... 
*claps*  Yay!!

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 2:28:37 PM   
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Drug them! :)

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RE: sad today... - 6/1/2007 2:39:30 PM   
Arastella


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Drug them! :)
Ya got a problem?

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RE: sad today... - 6/2/2007 6:07:37 AM   
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I'm also very curious as to what type meds the gentleman is now taking. I've worked with persons who suffer from depression and mood disorders, and  I have a close family member who is bipolar, so I  have first hand experience.  I've never known of any anti-depressant to have a significant effect in such a short time.    The typical scenario is that it takes a period of trial and error to find the right med or combination of meds. 
It's great that he's decided to seek treatment.   

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