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Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 5:56:48 PM   
Trainerofsluts


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I see many dommes state they appreciate gifts and tributes from subs. I too feel this way and I wonder if this is legal in Canada or would it be considered a form of prostitution?

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 6:13:49 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		Giving gifts isn't prosti tution no.


however most that demand tributes right away get passed up a lot of the times> I won't even give someone who demands money or tribute a second look.

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 6:19:10 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Giving a gift or money is no different a service than making dinner or cleaning the house.

I like being able to just agree with people!

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 6:20:15 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 6:27:21 PM   
LadyAngelika


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quote:

I too feel this way and I wonder if this is legal in Canada or would it be considered a form of prostitution?


Prostitution is not illegal in Canada. Solicitation however is. If you are insinuating that someone will get sex in exchange for a gift of any kind, you will be engaging in solicitation and might get into trouble.

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 6:31:41 PM   
Trainerofsluts


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Status: offline 		Hey, folks thanks for the feedback. So, say I state, I will accept tributes but there is no actual sex, just online and perhaps over the phone, that would not be solicitation as no real sex is occuring?


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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 6:37:33 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Status: offline 		Who cares if there is sex or not? That doesn't change anything IMO.

What exactly are you training and what do you consider a "slut"?

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/17/2005 6:48:19 PM   
LadyAngelika


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Who cares if there is sex or not? That doesn't change anything IMO.


It doesn't change anything in my opinion neither but it does in the eyes of the Canadian law. And that is what the OP was concerned with.

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/18/2005 12:34:05 AM   
Trainerofsluts


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Status: offline 		Okay, so I think I got it. Thanks once again. So as long as no actual sex is involved, it is all clear for tributes. What is "OP" Lady Angelika?

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/18/2005 3:27:50 AM   
onceburned


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edit:
sorry to butt in, I couldn't help myself.

< Message edited by onceburned -- 5/18/2005 3:28:57 AM >

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/18/2005 4:40:26 AM   
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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/18/2005 5:00:27 AM   
Trainerofsluts


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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/18/2005 5:59:48 AM   
diaperedbaby


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Status: offline 		I see no problem giving a unsolicated gift.
If they want a gift or tribute just to communicate with you, I wouldn't waste my time.
That is pretty close to prostitution.
I see little difference

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/24/2005 9:29:42 PM   
MistressJadeMTL


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Status: offline 		The youngest of my male subs (he's only 19), is always thoughtful enough to bring a small gift whenever he visits. It is usually a small package of unusual tea to add to my extensive collection, or perhaps some nice incense, since he knows I enjoy burning some when I wish to relax.

They are not expensive gifts perhaps, but considering he is a college student, it is the thought that more than counts than the size of the token -- and knowing that he appreciates *any* time that he spends with me and finds a small way to show his appreciation other than simple service.

One must remember that not all Dommes consider "tribute" to be a monetary gift or payment, it can be as simple as a small gift of appreciation for the Domme's valuable time.

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/27/2005 9:45:31 AM   
BeachMystress


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If you're getting into things requiring tributes or gifts, you're as much of a Pro as if you were charging a set fee. Be honest with the submissives. If you are experienced enough and talented enough to be a Pro, advertise proudly.

I have no problems with a woman requiring that a man provide the toys used on him, but do not assume she gets automatic possession of them. I do not feel a Dominant should be required to foot the bill for someone else's kink. That being said, I've paid for greater than 90% of my toys, am not a Pro and do not require tribute. I DID however, towards the end of my single Domme days, require a one time gift of a toy the first time I played with a submissive, due to being tired of being used as a service top. I made it very clear it was a one time requirement and gave them a wishlist of toys to choose from, ranging in price from $20 to $300. They were free to choose, but I reminded them I'd be using it on them. I also, because I have a huge collection of toys, told the sub that until they were accepted as a long term sub of mine, that they'd provide any toys to be used on them. I wasn't about to wear my toys out on someone I wasn't going to keep.





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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/27/2005 7:46:18 PM   
kc692


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Status: offline 		Good idea on the pic, Beachmystress, I think I will have to try to take one. All I know for sure is mine fill up 2 duffel bags completely, and totally cover my chaise lounge in my bedroom when laid out. I have not thought about taking a pic of them though, lol.

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/28/2005 7:26:19 AM   
LadyAngelika


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quote:

it is the thought that more than counts than the size of the token

I so agree Jade. This story sounds so sweet :)

One of my boys brings me fresh lilies every time he visits, and he is an extremely wealthy man. He has offered more substantial gifts but I have refused. I guess it's not the dynamic that I want. Though, when we go out for drinks or dinner, which is not that often, he always insists on paying. It makes him happy so I let him.

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/28/2005 7:52:54 AM   
marydontwantmen


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Status: offline 		So very true it need not be money or expensive. I judge a tribute by how much thought was put into it.

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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/28/2005 12:25:32 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		I agree, that is nice.

Unfortunately, I don't see too many tribute-domme profiles on here asking for a bouquet of lilies. You can't send that through Paypal.

Lam

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

One of my boys brings me fresh lilies every time he visits, and he is an extremely wealthy man.


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RE: Tributes and gifts from subs - 5/28/2005 12:33:15 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I agree, that is nice.

Unfortunately, I don't see too many tribute-domme profiles on here asking for a bouquet of lilies. You can't send that through Paypal.

Lam

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

One of my boys brings me fresh lilies every time he visits, and he is an extremely wealthy man.




Exactly. You have to deliver lilies in person. And wouldn't you know, I don't Domme via paypal, only in person!

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