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phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/17/2005 9:20:33 PM   
Kytherea


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So I haven't really heard anyone say much about phone training... self spanking...... other controls that can happen with a slave this way...

I'd like to know what idea's others have come up with and how other Mistresses feel about this.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/17/2005 9:31:09 PM   
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Someone else can fill you in on OWK and provide a web site and info I'm sure.

What is your question about phone domination? I've done a ton of it. It can be extremely fulfilling.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/17/2005 9:43:51 PM   
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OWK stands for The Other World Kingdom--yeah, it's a little unidiomatic. It's a femdom fetish house in the Czech Republic.

http://www.owk.cz/index.htm

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 1:08:28 AM   
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Someone else can fill you in on OWK and provide a web site and info I'm sure.


The OWK stands for the Other World Kingdom. Their Web site is: http://www.owk.cz/index.htm




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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 11:21:31 AM   
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That's funny, there's a picture of two copulating elephants right above you. Next to it is THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 11:50:27 AM   
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Difficult to say really, the idea of "training someone over the phone" seems really weak to me and not at all something I'd take seriously.

But, for example, I'm working with one person I've recently begun to see on his sleep and time schedule. So when we talked on the phone last night I told him that, in addition to lights out by 11, he was to stay in bed until his alarm went off. Now, was that phone topping? I'm not going to punish him if he doesn't do it, though he knows he accepted it and I would be disappointed it he didn't and he wouldn't enjoy that consequences. But for us it was just an extension of our real life relationship and since we don't live together we find talking on the phone a good way to communicate in between dates.

So "phone training" as a goal in itself and the primary form of communication in a relationship isn't something I could get into or take seriously, but as a supplement to everything else I guess it would work just as well.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 12:33:37 PM   
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Difficult to say really, the idea of "training someone over the phone" seems really weak to me and not at all something I'd take seriously.

But, for example, I'm working with one person I've recently begun to see on his sleep and time schedule. So when we talked on the phone last night I told him that, in addition to lights out by 11, he was to stay in bed until his alarm went off. Now, was that phone topping? I'm not going to punish him if he doesn't do it, though he knows he accepted it and I would be disappointed it he didn't and he wouldn't enjoy that consequences. But for us it was just an extension of our real life relationship and since we don't live together we find talking on the phone a good way to communicate in between dates.

So "phone training" as a goal in itself and the primary form of communication in a relationship isn't something I could get into or take seriously, but as a supplement to everything else I guess it would work just as well.


Phone training has never been a 'replacement' for real time, in the flesh bdsm for me, but it can be an excellent addition, or way to add a little flavor or spice either to an existing real life relationship or one that is long distance only.

I think the reason I can get off on phone training is because I respond very well to sounds and reactions. Moaning, whimpering, begging, gagging, breathing hard, etc -- those are all things that can be heard over the phone. Then you have begging and pleading. Very hot. If I close my eyes and am in the right mood, the right sub can really get me off.

The thing is, some people can't get past phone because there is always that element of "is he doing what he says he is doing?". I can generally tell when someone is lying, and toys all make specific sounds. But, I will add that a phone sub has to have a very dynamic personality and demeanor (and a hot voice) for it to be ideal.

Also, thanks to the wonders of technology, if you add a digital camera, you can have instant proof that the sub is doing the acts. I also get extremely turned on by visual things; I love pictures and videos of hot men in bondage. If I have my sub do various acts per my command on the phone and then email me photos or .avi files, I'm pretty turned on. Mind you, it's not the same as real life, but it can be damn good. Good foreplay, too --good way to get very hot and turned on before moving on to real life play.

I also was in a 2 year long distance relationship (that led to marriage) and phone play was a big part of that. Some very huge phone bills, a couple of digital cameras and me sending toys out his way....it all led to a nice package. I still have the pictures and videos.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 1:13:50 PM   
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Moaning, whimpering, begging, gagging, breathing hard, etc -- those are all things that can be heard over the phone. Then you have begging and pleading. Very hot. If I close my eyes and am in the right mood, the right sub can really get me off. Akasha

What you are describing sounds like phone sex/phone scenes to me, not training?

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 3:11:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

That's funny, there's a picture of two copulating elephants right above you. Next to it is THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION.



cool...twins...

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 3:58:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Moaning, whimpering, begging, gagging, breathing hard, etc -- those are all things that can be heard over the phone. Then you have begging and pleading. Very hot. If I close my eyes and am in the right mood, the right sub can really get me off. Akasha

What you are describing sounds like phone sex/phone scenes to me, not training?


In my one serious bdsm relationship, we did do a lot of phone/aim interaction before I started living with them. But mostly, it was really just phone sex or taking pictures of myself and sending them. There were a few attempts to do over phone training, but I just didn't take well to it. I felt silly, not dominated.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 10:31:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2


quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Moaning, whimpering, begging, gagging, breathing hard, etc -- those are all things that can be heard over the phone. Then you have begging and pleading. Very hot. If I close my eyes and am in the right mood, the right sub can really get me off. Akasha

What you are describing sounds like phone sex/phone scenes to me, not training?


Actually you're correct. I wasn't taking the term "training" so literally. I can see where that would be pretty unfulfilling on the phone. But as phone sex, it can be very hot.

Akasha

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 11:46:00 PM   
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I think for any Dom/sub relationship words and creativity are key. So phone training, in my opinion, is often a great lead in to the physical sides of BDSM. Not only is it useful in conditioning your slaves to obey voice commands to a tee, but it is also a great way for doms to find new and creative ways to push them. Some can't seem to see the difference between phone sex and training, because a lot of the time they are one and the same, but training in my opinion goes beyond grunting and moaning and fucking yourselves silly with various acoutrments. For instance a few of the things i like to do with my playthings don't involve either. Self humilation excerisizes, for instance, i'll give them a task, and not only will i expect them to follow through with it, but i will force them to describe it to say a friend or a stanger while i listen, it's a good way to get them to understand their place. showing them what they are, and what they are capable of with minimal prompting. As well as teaching you to enforce your will without a physical presence. i also like to prohibit how often they are able to touch themselves, not letting thm do it at all unless i am speaking to them, and using it as punishment in between. It's a way to condition them to the sounds of your voice, as well as a way to train them to orgasm on command if you do it well ;).
But when it comes to spanking, using toys, and bondage. I prefer hands on contact ;).

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/18/2005 11:53:59 PM   
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OWK is the Other World Kingdom. Actually, OWK is a website of fedom. I think it is one of the best SM websites in the world.

OWK has a IRS. You can register there.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/20/2005 2:34:18 PM   
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Phone training?...oh please...

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/20/2005 5:19:39 PM   
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Phone training?...oh please...


Oh sure! I did phone training for a while actually. I was one of the few, the brave, the strong that piloted what is now a huge call centre for a financial corporation about a decade ago. I had to do a whole lot of phone training! Ha!

In all honesty, at the time I realised I could supplement my income by being a phone sex operator. I got asked out on dates about once a day simply based on my voice. Apparently it's scorching hot. ;)

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/22/2005 12:59:31 AM   
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MesDames,
has anyone yet developed a ball gag or similar device to keep the phone from speaking up at the wrong time? my phone seems so poorly disciplined.

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/22/2005 9:03:42 AM   
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I find though that phone training has to occur after One is sure that the submissive is real and time has been spent in chatting, examination etc--then phone training can be added as reinforcement--I have been caught a few times though even after that--subs want a free stint at phone sex-- so for Me it is a fine line and is not engaged in immediately or with "casual conversation"subs

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RE: phone training... and btw..what is OWK - 5/22/2005 10:40:29 AM   
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MesDames,
has anyone yet developed a ball gag or similar device to keep the phone from speaking up at the wrong time? my phone seems so poorly disciplined.



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