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MzStormD -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:16:45 AM)
This is my first time posting on the boards. Patience please! KaramelGoddess I cant really speak for pixel but I'm goin to jump anyway. I'm as white as I can be and use majic shaving powder to keep my pubic area cleanly shaven. I doubt pixel meant his commentary in any way or form to be a racial slur. But the majic poder works so well on the pubic area because it was developed for the black man. pubic hair is close to the same coarseness which is why it works so well . and you dont leave it in powder form when you use it its mixed with water to form a paste. Then washed off. I love the stuff it works great and is easy to use. Former subs have agreed that it was much easier than using a razor and continue to use majic powder to this day ~~MzStormD~~

TexasMaam -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:20:52 AM)
KaramelGoddess: Gently, and respectfully, I would like to state that while I do not presume to speak FOR pixel, I am certain he did not reply from a racial point of view, but from experience. That particular product is very popular among male subs for removing coarse pubic hair, no matter the color of their skin. That, and Nair waterless cream. Reading both posts I can understand how you would have interpreted it as racial commentary, however, understanding the widespread use of the product in BDSM circles might give you a broader perspective. I'm sure pixel intended his comment from his familiarity with the product. I'm white, and I use it. I recommend it to other Dommes, white or black or latino or otherwise, and never even think about it being a reference to a race, only to a product that is effective and easy to use. But it does smell nasty. Just FYI. Best wishes, TexasMaam quote: ORIGINAL: KaramelGoddess quote: ORIGINAL: pixelslave Rather than actually shaving, you may also want to try a product called "Majic Shaving Powder", which is a powdery product (comes in a can) that was developed for black men with rough skin who had difficulty using razor blades to shave. It is mixed with water into a paste then applied to the skin for a limited number of minutes accoding to the directions on the container, then removed (a spatula works well with it as I recall). It's very effective for most, although it does have something of a sulphur odor to it at the time of use. If left on too long it does begin to burn, just as any delapitory cream would. It may be worth trying to see if it works for you. [8\|] The only thing else I can say is to enjoy the feel and give your skin some time to adjust before you engage in activities that apply a lot of friction to it. Powder to keep yourself dry afterward can be useful too! [sm=lol.gif] - pixel Originally I wasn't going to reply to this post. However, the more I read it, the more it annoyed Me. So, I'm going to try and be diplomatic. pixel, I know you are trying to help and offer your best advice. I have some queries though: a) What makes you think a product designed for African-American men would work on Me? b) You chose to answer My OP from a racial point of view... I must respectfully ask...why? Others did not...only you did...I'm just curious as to why. Doctors now say powder is one of the worst things you can use near a vagina as it locks moisture against the skin. Sure it smells & feels nice, but it's really not good for a part of the body as moist as the vagina/pubic area. ~Kara

TexasMaam -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:24:06 AM)
See? Ditto. TM

earthycouple -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:28:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KaramelGoddess quote: ORIGINAL: pixelslave Rather than actually shaving, you may also want to try a product called "Majic Shaving Powder", which is a powdery product (comes in a can) that was developed for black men with rough skin who had difficulty using razor blades to shave. It is mixed with water into a paste then applied to the skin for a limited number of minutes accoding to the directions on the container, then removed (a spatula works well with it as I recall). It's very effective for most, although it does have something of a sulphur odor to it at the time of use. If left on too long it does begin to burn, just as any delapitory cream would. It may be worth trying to see if it works for you. [8\|] The only thing else I can say is to enjoy the feel and give your skin some time to adjust before you engage in activities that apply a lot of friction to it. Powder to keep yourself dry afterward can be useful too! [sm=lol.gif] - pixel Originally I wasn't going to reply to this post. However, the more I read it, the more it annoyed Me. So, I'm going to try and be diplomatic. pixel, I know you are trying to help and offer your best advice. I have some queries though: a) What makes you think a product designed for African-American men would work on Me? b) You chose to answer My OP from a racial point of view... I must respectfully ask...why? Others did not...only you did...I'm just curious as to why. Doctors now say powder is one of the worst things you can use near a vagina as it locks moisture against the skin. Sure it smells & feels nice, but it's really not good for a part of the body as moist as the vagina/pubic area. ~Kara What? Huh? First of all, Kara....Pixel was not being "racial". There is a phenominon in people of color called "keloids" which occur often on men who shave their faces. Simply stated they are scars caused by shaving and they leave larger bumps and lumps making it nearly impossible for a man to shave anymore so if he chooses to have a hairless face he needs a different product. Keloids are not something that occur ONLY in darker pigmented skin, anyone can get them, however because the occurance is more prevelant in black skin, the cosmetic companies created a wonderful thing to help these men (this is the product to which pixel referred). Second, Kara, never once did pixel tell you to coat your vagina with powder. He stated VERY clearly that you MIX it WITH WATER to create a PASTE. You should have stuck with your gut and not replied because now you just look like you can't comprehend a well written post.

PairOfDimes -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:38:06 AM)
You might look ghastly without hair--I don't know. Everyone's body is shaped differently. I think that it looks good on women with prominent bones "down there," and on women whose pubic hair doesn't coordinate well with the hair on their heads. You will certainly look different! You might want to take it slowly and trim the hair short first--that's a good step before shaving anyhow. In my experience (pale and dry skin, dark and thick hair, shaving daily) it felt strange and was prone to itching for the first couple weeks, but after that the skin recovered and became accustomed to the lack of hair. Avoiding underwear, nylons, and tight jeans helps on sensitive days or in the early stages of shaving. I have cut myself. It hurts, and bleeds more than one would think, but it heals quickly, and generally I cut myself in the first place because I was inattentive, hurried or startled. I've gotten razor burn, and yes, it is irritating, but it's not the end of the world, and it's generally because I've used a razor that was too dull or because I've used plain soap rather than a good cream. The moral of the story? Pay attention, yank your labia around so the skin is tight on the area you're shaving, and maintain your shaving supplies well. About creams: a body wash or cheap hair conditioner is better, in my view, than a proper shaving cream or gel. Don't get something with the lotion injected in (like the new Olay things)--they're delightful for washing with, but they clog up razors. Do moisturize afterward, and use a powder or an anti-chafing agent like "BodyGlide" (which, incidentally, is wonderful for shoes that tend to cause blisters) in hot months or if your thigh-labia configuration lends itself to chafing. Letting someone else shave me doesn't strike me as sexy--it strikes me as nerve-wracking. If that works for you, by all means, do it, but it's not something fun for me. I've listed the above tips so you might be able to shave more effectively--not so you would be persuaded that you should shave. It's your body. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. If you do, do, and remember that it is reversible--it will grow back if you let it.

KaramelGoddess -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:53:03 AM)
Yup he did mention powder: quote: The only thing else I can say is to enjoy the feel and give your skin some time to adjust before you engage in activities that apply a lot of friction to it. Powder to keep yourself dry afterward can be useful too! [sm=lol.gif] - pixel Here come the flames...and I just asked for clarification. It simply struck Me as odd. And yes earthycouple, I am a Woman of Colour, so I know about keloids. I have had a few, mainly from mosquito bites. I do not live in the USA however so I have never seen or heard of this "Majik Powder". My grandfather is of mixed race and he shaves every day with regular shaving cream and a razor, and he has never once had a keloid. My father is African-American (from St. Kitt's actually) and he doesn't shave at all so again I have never seen a keloid on him. I am not suggesting AT ALL that pixel is a racist. Please show Me where I state that if you can...My post was in no way meant to attack, it was a simple request for clarification. You suggesting I can not read well is totally unwarranted. I'm not going to apologize for asking a few questions, is this not how we learn? ~Kara

KaramelGoddess -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:54:17 AM)
Thank you PairofDimes, yours was the most helpful post so far. I appreciate it. ~Kara

KaramelGoddess -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 8:58:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TexasMaam KaramelGoddess: Gently, and respectfully, I would like to state that while I do not presume to speak FOR pixel, I am certain he did not reply from a racial point of view, but from experience. That particular product is very popular among male subs for removing coarse pubic hair, no matter the color of their skin. That, and Nair waterless cream. Reading both posts I can understand how you would have interpreted it as racial commentary, however, understanding the widespread use of the product in BDSM circles might give you a broader perspective. I'm sure pixel intended his comment from his familiarity with the product. I'm white, and I use it. I recommend it to other Dommes, white or black or latino or otherwise, and never even think about it being a reference to a race, only to a product that is effective and easy to use. But it does smell nasty. Just FYI. Best wishes, TexasMaam quote: ORIGINAL: KaramelGoddess quote: ORIGINAL: pixelslave Rather than actually shaving, you may also want to try a product called "Majic Shaving Powder", which is a powdery product (comes in a can) that was developed for black men with rough skin who had difficulty using razor blades to shave. It is mixed with water into a paste then applied to the skin for a limited number of minutes accoding to the directions on the container, then removed (a spatula works well with it as I recall). It's very effective for most, although it does have something of a sulphur odor to it at the time of use. If left on too long it does begin to burn, just as any delapitory cream would. It may be worth trying to see if it works for you. [8\|] The only thing else I can say is to enjoy the feel and give your skin some time to adjust before you engage in activities that apply a lot of friction to it. Powder to keep yourself dry afterward can be useful too! [sm=lol.gif] - pixel Originally I wasn't going to reply to this post. However, the more I read it, the more it annoyed Me. So, I'm going to try and be diplomatic. pixel, I know you are trying to help and offer your best advice. I have some queries though: a) What makes you think a product designed for African-American men would work on Me? b) You chose to answer My OP from a racial point of view... I must respectfully ask...why? Others did not...only you did...I'm just curious as to why. Doctors now say powder is one of the worst things you can use near a vagina as it locks moisture against the skin. Sure it smells & feels nice, but it's really not good for a part of the body as moist as the vagina/pubic area. ~Kara Thanks TM, I appreciate your commentary. ~Kara

BBBTBW -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 9:28:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KaramelGoddess quote: ORIGINAL: pixelslave Rather than actually shaving, you may also want to try a product called "Majic Shaving Powder", which is a powdery product (comes in a can) that was developed for black men with rough skin who had difficulty using razor blades to shave. It is mixed with water into a paste then applied to the skin for a limited number of minutes accoding to the directions on the container, then removed (a spatula works well with it as I recall). It's very effective for most, although it does have something of a sulphur odor to it at the time of use. If left on too long it does begin to burn, just as any delapitory cream would. It may be worth trying to see if it works for you. [8\|] The only thing else I can say is to enjoy the feel and give your skin some time to adjust before you engage in activities that apply a lot of friction to it. Powder to keep yourself dry afterward can be useful too! [sm=lol.gif] - pixel Originally I wasn't going to reply to this post. However, the more I read it, the more it annoyed Me. So, I'm going to try and be diplomatic. pixel, I know you are trying to help and offer your best advice. I have some queries though: a) What makes you think a product designed for African-American men would work on Me? b) You chose to answer My OP from a racial point of view... I must respectfully ask...why? Others did not...only you did...I'm just curious as to why. Doctors now say powder is one of the worst things you can use near a vagina as it locks moisture against the skin. Sure it smells & feels nice, but it's really not good for a part of the body as moist as the vagina/pubic area. ~Kara In defense of Pixel Slave, I don't think he approached you from a racial stand point. He gave you the reason that the product was developed. Although keiloids are a factor in why a lot of black men don't shave their faces, the product was originally developed to keep curly hair from getting ingrown after shaving. I as a Black Woman use Magic Shave to keep my pubic area free of hair. For the record, I was introduced to this product for pubic hair removal by a very pale skinned white woman. The following is an excerpt of a post I made a few weeks ago regarding the subject of ridding the pubic area of hair. "The first thing I will say about this post is: If you don't have experience with a particular product, DON'T recommend it. With that said, I do recommend "Magic Shave" although I would NEVER in a million years tell someone to leave it on for 10 minutes unless of course they didn't value their skin and wanted only to see raw bloody flesh. This product was designed to remove the hair from Black Men's faces. That said, you can imagine the strength of this product. It comes in a few different forms and several strengths. The powder form can be mixed to any consistency you find conducive to your hair type. HOWEVER, you never want to leave it on more than 2 or 3 minutes (shorter for some people). This is a product I use regularly in my pubic area I put it on, lightly massage it in for about a minute or until I start to feel a sting, then get in the shower and with the massaging sprayer I rinse it off. There are always a few stray hairs that can be easily plucked with a tweezers but all in all most of the hair is removed. There are a few words of caution: If you are of a fairer skinned race, this product was not designed for your skin or hair types. PROCEED with CAUTION IF you are a woman please be careful around your urethra and vaginal openings and this stuff can burn the HELLO OUCH out of you. Have your partner do it if you have one. Be careful using anything to scrape it off, it can cause irritation, a strong spray of water with a little finger massage works very well Before using this all over the area, test a small spot and see if you need to do it in patches rather than the whole area at once This product is an over the counter product that can be garnered at most discount department stores ie: WalMart, Walgreens, K-mart, Target, or at most Beauty Supply Stores that carry Black Beauty Products. You can also get it online...just google "Magic Shave" "

maledave7 -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 9:37:25 AM)
I shaved my pubic hair off because I wanted to see what it would look like. I felt weird without the hair at first. The first couple of times that I did it would itch. My skin is sensitive. Over time, I did get used to having no hair. Now I enjoy being bald down there. I used a foaming facial cleanser. It helps to soften the skin and makes it easier to shave.

MistressRouge -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 9:51:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: earthycouple quote: ORIGINAL: KaramelGoddess quote: ORIGINAL: pixelslave Rather than actually shaving, you may also want to try a product called "Majic Shaving Powder", which is a powdery product (comes in a can) that was developed for black men with rough skin who had difficulty using razor blades to shave. It is mixed with water into a paste then applied to the skin for a limited number of minutes accoding to the directions on the container, then removed (a spatula works well with it as I recall). It's very effective for most, although it does have something of a sulphur odor to it at the time of use. If left on too long it does begin to burn, just as any delapitory cream would. It may be worth trying to see if it works for you. [8\|] The only thing else I can say is to enjoy the feel and give your skin some time to adjust before you engage in activities that apply a lot of friction to it. Powder to keep yourself dry afterward can be useful too! [sm=lol.gif] - pixel Originally I wasn't going to reply to this post. However, the more I read it, the more it annoyed Me. So, I'm going to try and be diplomatic. pixel, I know you are trying to help and offer your best advice. I have some queries though: a) What makes you think a product designed for African-American men would work on Me? b) You chose to answer My OP from a racial point of view... I must respectfully ask...why? Others did not...only you did...I'm just curious as to why. Doctors now say powder is one of the worst things you can use near a vagina as it locks moisture against the skin. Sure it smells & feels nice, but it's really not good for a part of the body as moist as the vagina/pubic area. ~Kara What? Huh? First of all, Kara....Pixel was not being "racial". There is a phenominon in people of color called "keloids" which occur often on men who shave their faces. Simply stated they are scars caused by shaving and they leave larger bumps and lumps making it nearly impossible for a man to shave anymore so if he chooses to have a hairless face he needs a different product. Keloids are not something that occur ONLY in darker pigmented skin, anyone can get them, however because the occurance is more prevelant in black skin, the cosmetic companies created a wonderful thing to help these men (this is the product to which pixel referred). Second, Kara, never once did pixel tell you to coat your vagina with powder. He stated VERY clearly that you MIX it WITH WATER to create a PASTE. You should have stuck with your gut and not replied because now you just look like you can't comprehend a well written post. I find your posted an insolent reply, and yes, I am very offended by it. Quote: Second, Kara, never once did pixel tell you to coat your vagina with powder. He stated VERY clearly that you MIX it WITH WATER to create a PASTE. I am sure Kara understood what was written as I did, how dare you capitalise it in a patronising tone, totally distasteful I must say. I am sure pixel may respond for himself. Quote: You should have stuck with your gut and not replied because now you just look like you can't comprehend a well written post. Maybe you cannot comprehend manners!

MistressRouge -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 10:00:01 AM)
Stereotyping that all/most black men have bad skin and keloids blah blah blah. I tell you something the black men, and men of colour that I have experienced have the smoothest skin I have found, flawless, freckless and moleless lol.[:D] I am of mixed parentage, and I too find the mention of the product Majic relevant if it is a good product for hair removal. HOWEVER, why not just say Majic works, try it, without all the race implications?

Kitte9 -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 10:21:05 AM)
You'll get a lot of replies on how to shave, and some will even tell you which kind of razor they use (I use a gillette sensor myself), just remember to use at least three blades if not more and you'll have a wonderfully smooth result.

BBBTBW -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 10:22:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressRouge Stereotyping that all/most black men have bad skin and keloids blah blah blah. I tell you something the black men, and men of colour that I have experienced have the smoothest skin I have found, flawless, freckless and moleless lol.[:D] I am of mixed parentage, and I too find the mention of the product Majic relevant if it is a good product for hair removal. HOWEVER, why not just say Majic works, try it, without all the race implications? I don't know what racial relations are like in the UK and other parts of the world, but here in the US, things are still divided, even the products we use to take care of our day to day personal living. Everything is very separate here. Some beauty supply stores don't carry products that are conducive to the betterment of Black People. So we have to go to "Black Beauty Supply stores to obtain products that are designed for our hair types. With that said, I will tell you why the racial implication was made for the Magic Shave. Magic Shave is/was developed and marketed by a company that develops and markets products primarily for Black People Magic Shave was specifically developed for Black Men's facial hair, although other uses have been found for it. I think Soft Sheen is happy their product is selling regardless of the reason. I put the racial background in my post (as explained in my post) because it was developed for a coarser type of hair (black mens facial hair) thus it is a strong product and can cause just as much harm as good if not used properly (I also think this was Pixel's point) With all due respect to KaramelGoddess. Some of us felt the need to defend Pixel because the tone of your post was a bit abrasive even if not intentionally. (perception is key) Since you preceeded your questions with the fact that Pixel's post annoyed you. EarthyCouple was out of line in her misquoting and her summation of your comprehension abilities.

stef -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 10:31:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressRouge I am of mixed parentage, and I too find the mention of the product Majic relevant if it is a good product for hair removal. HOWEVER, why not just say Majic works, try it, without all the race implications? Since the manufacturer markets the product as "A depilatory formulated especially for black men to help fight razor bumps," perhaps you should take up these "race implications" with them instead of attacking someone who was only trying to be helpful. quote: Maybe you cannot comprehend manners! This gets my vote for the ironic comment of the week. ~stef

stef -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 10:35:17 AM)
Oh, and add my vote for Magic Shaving powder. It works great, even on us pasty-white folk. ~stef

WyckedMystress -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 11:21:20 AM)
I have found that waxing provides the best effect. yes there is a little more pain to start with but it doesnt last long and the after effects are fabulous. For Me shaving isnt good - no matter what I do it grows back fast, itchy, pimply and down right ugly. I think in the long run it is what ever suits You best - experiment and see what works. Goodluck WyckedMystress

MistressRouge -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 11:47:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBBTBW quote: ORIGINAL: MistressRouge Stereotyping that all/most black men have bad skin and keloids blah blah blah. I tell you something the black men, and men of colour that I have experienced have the smoothest skin I have found, flawless, freckless and moleless lol.[:D] I am of mixed parentage, and I too find the mention of the product Majic relevant if it is a good product for hair removal. HOWEVER, why not just say Majic works, try it, without all the race implications? I don't know what racial relations are like in the UK and other parts of the world, but here in the US, things are still divided, even the products we use to take care of our day to day personal living. Everything is very separate here. Some beauty supply stores don't carry products that are conducive to the betterment of Black People. So we have to go to "Black Beauty Supply stores to obtain products that are designed for our hair types. With that said, I will tell you why the racial implication was made for the Magic Shave. Magic Shave is/was developed and marketed by a company that develops and markets products primarily for Black People Magic Shave was specifically developed for Black Men's facial hair, although other uses have been found for it. I think Soft Sheen is happy their product is selling regardless of the reason. I put the racial background in my post (as explained in my post) because it was developed for a coarser type of hair (black mens facial hair) thus it is a strong product and can cause just as much harm as good if not used properly (I also think this was Pixel's point) With all due respect to KaramelGoddess. Some of us felt the need to defend Pixel because the tone of your post was a bit abrasive even if not intentionally. (perception is key) Since you preceeded your questions with the fact that Pixel's post annoyed you. EarthyCouple was out of line in her misquoting and her summation of your comprehension abilities. Thankyou for your reply :), To be honest Pixel's post did not offend Me, it was the post of EarthyCouple that did. Patronising, rude and ignorant. The UK has a ethnic melting pot of cultures thankgoodness, and yes, we have specialist stores for certain cultures here too.

MistressRouge -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 11:50:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: MistressRouge I am of mixed parentage, and I too find the mention of the product Majic relevant if it is a good product for hair removal. HOWEVER, why not just say Majic works, try it, without all the race implications? Since the manufacturer markets the product as "A depilatory formulated especially for black men to help fight razor bumps," perhaps you should take up these "race implications" with them instead of attacking someone who was only trying to be helpful. quote: Maybe you cannot comprehend manners! This gets my vote for the ironic comment of the week. ~stef Well if you read correctly My comments were not geared towards Pixel. Why dont we just disect all products then, stating that veet is for all nationalities [:D]

MsKatHouston -> RE: Shaving... (5/26/2007 12:20:50 PM)
You've had some good practical suggestions so I'll just chime in with my preferences. I much prefer shaved/waxed completely for men or women. I find I am much more sensitive and it just looks neater. I have tried designs and strips but it takes way too much time to make sure everythng is even. For me, I prefer waxing to shaving though it is not always practical to be waxed. The only time I have a real problem is when I am not using a new razor. I do have sensitive skin so the lotions you use for after waxing help me and powder. Have fun.

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