slaveluci -> RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery (5/26/2007 10:58:08 AM)
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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 hi slaveluci...you are absolutely correct in that serving and pleasing our Masters is (or certainly should be) a slave's top priority. if a Master requires/demands his slave take care of self (thereby taking care of what is his), then that is what that slave should do. but books and websites like this "Slavecraft" make the dangerous mistake of implying that self-preservation (or we could call it "property preservation" if you like) is a quality that all Masters wish to nurture or encourage in their slaves, and that is just not true. i have never heard of "Slavecraft" until this thread but, as you said, anytime any attempt is made to state that ALL masters wish to do/encourage anything i have to shake my head. All masters don't agree on anything, obviously. it does seem to be true that a great deal, and perhaps even most Masters want and need that dichotomy in a slave: obedient and subservient to them, capable and independent with in the world at large. the last thing they want is a slave who can't function without them, or who can't take care of themselves in the big bad world. this just makes me all the more grateful for being discovered by a Master who was different from the norm, and most desired the sort of slave i could be. With all due respect, may i ask why your master wants you to not be able to function or take care of yourself out in the world? And, a second question: unless you went straight from childhood to your master, didn't you learn skills that would enable you to function well in the everyday "outside" world? You're obviously literate, educated, able to type....wouldn't those skills enable you to work if necessary? i know you have made previous mention of some sort of arrangement that's in place should something happen to end your M/s dynamic. Maybe there would simply never be any need for you to have to go out and work? this does not mean that he is standing over me every moment, watching out for me or ensuring that i behave. He trusts, and more importantly, expects me to follow his rules and follow the routine he has in place for me. Yes, i understand. i didn't mean to imply otherwise. My point was that, when my Master can't be physically present, He leaves it to me to take care of His property by eating properly, taking meds, driving safely, avoiding dangerous situations, etc. All that in addition to following His rules and the routines He has instituted. His expectactions include my remaining in a consistent submissive state. for him it's very unsettling to see a slave being the perfect, humble obedient servant before her Master, then turn around and be assertive with someone else. He made it clear from the very beginning that he would NOT accept such behavior from any property of his. That's interesting because, for my Master, it is totally the opposite. To Him, if i am going to be submissive and obedient to every man around me, that diminishes His status as Master. If every man is basically my master (since i'd be obeying and serving them), how does that make Him any different from any man that walks by and wishes to grope me? His attitude about that is that i am His and His only. He wishes that no other man should touch or use me. If i were to be available for such activity, that would mean He would reduced to simply being another man i am to please. i am HIS perfect, humble, obedient servant, as you said, not anyone else's. He expects and, frankly, demands that i be assertive with everyone else. Not aggressive, but assertive. Big difference! He will accept no less. That just goes to show the vast differences between what different Master's expect as good service from their slaves[;)]. i do have one question though: you are very assertive here on these forums as far as stating your feelings/beliefs about your dynamic and about others' opinions when they differ from yours. Does your master not see this as being a problem? You mention below that your master wouldn't want a slave "who would refuse or stand up to a man." Does he permit you to stand up for your beliefs on these forums but just not in face-to-face interaction? Or is it only acceptable to assert yourself on here with other female subs/slaves? Just curious. i remember getting in trouble once for telling a man who wanted something of me that i did not think was appropriate, "i can't." while my Master did not particularly want me to do anything for this particular man, he wanted less a slave who would refuse or stand up to a man. so because he has such expectations, he has created an environment which will allow him to be most pleased, without having a slave mauled by the world at large i like that last statement about being "mauled by the world at large."[:)] That could certainly happen if you weren't permitted to stand up for or protect yourself against someone with less than honorable intentions. for most of my life, i've struggled with major depression. for many years, including the first 2 yrs of my slavery, a bi-product of that was self-injury. i would get into these deep depressive states where i was barely aware of the world around me, chant and mumble to myself in a daze for hours, all the while beating my head against the wall or raking my fingernails over my skin from toe to hip. gave myself a few concussions, and still have plenty of ugly deep scars all over my legs. and we won't even get into the suicide attempts. this is where the issue of being protected from oneself comes in.... Yes, i certainly see where it would. i'm sorry to hear about the depression and self-injury. He eventually got it through to me that my body was not my own to destroy, that my life was not my own to take. that to do so was a spit in the face to him, and a subconsious attempt to be my own Master. whoa. that really made me think. so i just let it go...opened my hands and said, "it's yours"...so now it's all on his shoulders, as it should be. now when i get the urge to SI i go to him, tell him, and he decides what to do It's great that he was able to get that point across to you. If you won't protect yourself FOR yourself, then protect his property for HIM. Good way of getting you to see things. maybe he will beat me himself, maybe he'll simply ignore me, or tell me to take a nap. and whatever he decides i can accept without frustration, because this body i'm walking around with and this air i'm breathing is all because of him, after all. it's no longer my business what happens to it As long as he can be trusted to take care of his property, then you can rest assured that he will. i think i have gained a little bit of insight into why your particular dynamic may work so well for you. Seems like you really needed someone to take control and help you through some of the issues you had. i'm glad you've found peace and contentment within the arrangement that works best for you......slave luci
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