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MstrssPassion -> RE: froced feminzation (6/10/2005 7:56:01 PM)

I'm rather sensitive about the topic of transsexuals. My partner is trans & this is not something to jest about.

A transsexual doesn't just wake up one day & say.... hmmmm lets see, why don't I f'ck up my life & that of everyone around me & change my gender... yeah, that sounds fun.

Transsexuals come into life not understanding why Mom wears pretty dresses & shoes & Dad shaves his face. A trans person often realizes this as early as 3 to 4 yrs of age. As time goes by & they are living life as one gender & in their mind, heart & soul they scream out... this is not who I am. They are fearful of rejection & hatred. Told that they are crazy, sick, weird & even perverted for this.

Before I go into a full novel, I will bluntly end my reply.

No one should be "FORCED" to endure this. Yes, I have been contacted by more than one person who has been forced (or at least claims this) & was rejected by the partner who started the process & sadly these individuals drift between genders & horribly disfigured & confused as to what direction they should go & who they can trust.

MstrssPassion

ps... I appologize for the harshness but I am very involved with a gender society group & attend lectures with my partner in regards to transsexuals. A very sensitive subject for me, but often I am in a position of answering many of the silliest & often very crude questions. I see it this way, if these questions are answered, maybe their mind will open up to ask a more intelligent question.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: froced feminzation (6/10/2005 8:12:25 PM)

I apologize if my post sounded like I was suggesting that this is a whim... The OP asks about forced feminization involving surgeries/hormones as if it's like cross-dressing, and it isn't exactly, so I responded maybe a little irresponsibly/insensitively to you and yours... Am sorry I offended you, didn't mean to.. M




MstrssPassion -> RE: froced feminzation (6/10/2005 8:54:17 PM)

It wasn't aimed directly toward you BlkTallFullfig, there have been a few threads that hint at this topic & there are many posts that tend to poke fun at trans persons or totally do not grasp the reality of the true struggles that being trans means




78787878 -> RE: froced feminzation (6/11/2005 2:37:31 PM)

For me, yes these would all be fine.




perverseangelic -> RE: froced feminzation (6/11/2005 3:21:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: 78787878

For me, yes these would all be fine.



Then it isn't really forced, no?




stef -> RE: froced feminzation (6/11/2005 3:36:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: perverseangelic

Then it isn't really forced, no?

Shhhhhh! You're ruining their fantasy!

~stef




asissyforher -> RE: froced feminzation (6/12/2005 11:33:45 PM)

my post didnt go through.

forced? oxymoron.
i would kill to have it done.

thanks

a sissy




78787878 -> RE: froced feminzation (6/15/2005 9:21:06 AM)

Probably not really forced, but I'm unlikely to go do them by myself.




asissyforher -> RE: forced feminization (6/15/2005 9:57:06 AM)

quote;;And would it still be ok if she also injected you with hormones that would enlarge your breasts, or put you under for a plastic surgeon who would actually give you real breast implants? That's what the OP was talking about -- not simply shaving eyebrows. quote;;

Akasha
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i guess, if it is a male, that does not want, to be changed? maybe then it is forced?
but then,..i don't know. the willing part i understand is not forced, --is it a hair line technical question to say hormones on a male is forcing his body to change so therefor it IS forced??

ah well.
some of us desire to change though, that IS true.

a sissy
p/s i corrected the spelling also above......




78787878 -> RE: forced feminization (6/16/2005 8:30:23 AM)

In my case I guess forced isn't really the correct term, I am willing. I guess what I need is a little push.




Shadowsdream -> RE: forced feminization (6/16/2005 9:04:59 AM)

or is it "hopeful" and needing "encouragement?"




onceburned -> RE: forced feminization (6/16/2005 9:49:19 AM)

Or perhaps "guided feminization" or even "coached feminization"? (a coach being willing to push their players to their best)




asissyforher -> RE: forced feminization (6/16/2005 11:11:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: onceburned

Or perhaps "guided feminization" or even "coached feminization"? (a coach being willing to push their players to their best)

quote:

Or perhaps "guided feminization" or even "coached feminization"? (a coach being willing to push their players to their best)

_____________________________

chris


i like that.....thank you. i am still taking my hormones, and i see some...poofing out. just not like i wish they were..and then my bud's other half says, here, take some of mine,.,.i have enough for two of us.
what are sisters for? always there to cheer me up i guess.

a slave




onceburned -> RE: forced feminization (6/16/2005 1:15:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: asissyforher
what are sisters for? always there to cheer me up i guess.


It is good that you have some support if you are serious about transition. Changing your sex is a difficult and stressful project.




asissyforher -> RE: forced feminization (6/16/2005 2:29:57 PM)

support? uh uh. i am doing this alone. i have no "support" and never looked for it.
bullheaded? stubborn? (same thing isn't it?)
may very well be my case. but as i have said over and over.....
"i" am self sufficient. i take care of myself, alone. always have, probably always will.

but thank you for asking

a slave




MstrssPassion -> RE: forced feminization (6/17/2005 5:31:29 AM)

What meds are you taking & the amounts? Did you have bloodwork done or a examination of your prostate?

The ability to purchase these drugs & self medicate is very dangerous. There is a risk of blood clots, liver & kidney damage... all can very likely result in death.

You 'say' you are poofing out... have you noticed that the downstairs is also being remodeled?? HRT (hormone replacement theropy) is 'forcing' (as one poster suggested) the body to conform from one gender to another & in the case of male to female you are preparing for your outtie to become an innie. It only take a short period of time for the hormones to effect changes in a penis that cannot be reversed.

All of these risks & changes would be discussed with the patient that seeks gender reassignment if they take the proper course. Persons that self medicate have no clue & the damage is usually done before they realize it.


MstrssPassion




asissyforher -> RE: forced feminization (6/17/2005 11:31:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

What meds are you taking & the amounts? Did you have bloodwork done or a examination of your prostate?

***my prostrate is fine..just had bloodwork done

The ability to purchase these drugs & self medicate is very dangerous. There is a risk of blood clots, liver & kidney damage... all can very likely result in death.

You 'say' you are poofing out... have you noticed that the downstairs is also being remodeled?? HRT (hormone replacement theropy) is 'forcing' (as one poster suggested) the body to conform from one gender to another & in the case of male to female you are preparing for your outtie to become an innie. It only take a short period of time for the hormones to effect changes in a penis that cannot be reversed.

***** no the penile area is not changed that "i" see of.

All of these risks & changes would be discussed with the patient that seeks gender reassignment if they take the proper course. Persons that self medicate have no clue & the damage is usually done before they realize it.


MstrssPassion



****no clue? possible. i am taking an herbal i bought. i cannot find any local doctors. i tried the university, and the V.A.--so far no one wants to discuss it and i am not going out of state...i will take whatever risk there is on my own shouders.
i cannot even find a domme that is interested. some say yeah they want a sissy but no input help to doing it.





onceburned -> RE: forced feminization (6/17/2005 12:31:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: asissyforher

****no clue? possible. i am taking an herbal i bought. i cannot find any local doctors. i tried the university, and the V.A.--so far no one wants to discuss it and i am not going out of state...


You mentioned you tried the university, and I assume you mean the University of Iowa. But did you try the Women's Resource and Action Center which is in Iowa City? They don't have any discussion groups this summer but during the school year they sponsor some very useful discussion groups. For example:

quote:

* Transitions: Transgender Support Group - This group provides a safe environment for people to share their experience of transitioning (or those considering transitioning) with others, using privacy, respect, empathy and understand for each other. Participants will share resources, may have guest speakers, and discuss activism. Open to male-to-female and female-to-male transgendered folks. Limited to 8 participants. The group will meet on Tuesdays from 7:00 to 8:30 pm at WRAC, beginning February 11 through March 18. Contact the WRAC for more information.

* Exploring Gender - This group is designed to explore gender identity and develop strategies to challenge societal constructions of gender and the power structures that accompany them. Participants will be encouraged to think consciously about gender, identify how gender identity affects them, and find ways to re-invent or support new constructions of gender. The group will meet on Mondays from 6:00 to 8:00 pm, beginning March 31. Participants must pre-register before attending.


At these discussion groups you can meet persons who are in transition or who have completed transition. And you can get advice as to what doctors to see and best resources for low-cost beard removal. You can learn more about the groups at http://www.uiowa.edu/~wrac/ (but there is nothing offered this summer).

Alternatively, in Des Moines there is the

Central Iowa Gender Institute
PO Box 12164
Des Moines, IA 50312
(515) 277-7754

It offers counseling and support services for CD/TS/TG. And can get you a referral to a physician to prescribe and monitor estrogen therapy.

Iowa -does- have transsexual resources. After all, a famous university professor transitioned here about 10 years ago. Its simply a matter of knowing who to talk to. [:)]




asissyforher -> RE: forced feminization (6/17/2005 3:53:06 PM)

i am grateful. i will look into this.

thank you.




MstrssPassion -> RE: forced feminization (6/19/2005 7:35:02 AM)

Here are a few more links...

Iowa Artistry
PO Box 11093, Cedar Rapids, IA 52410
http://www.transgender.org/ioar/index.html
TG/TS/TV/CD support, advice and a social atmosphere.

http://www.crglrc.org/
Cedar Rapids GLBT Resource Center
305 2nd St SE Suite 324
319-366-2055


Something not brought up within this thread...
http://www.chaparraltree.com/raq/
Androgyny RAQ (Rarely Asked Questions)

Herbals may not be a good idea... The best advice offered is to seek out medical advice & do this right.
http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/herbal_hormones.htm
Herbal Hormones
"While whatever estrogenic properties exist only in a very weak form, very large and potentially toxic quantities are often consumed. Toxic results have shown in some individuals in the form of illness, and possibly, permanent organ damage."


MstrssPassion




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