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chiaThePet -> RE: The Great Domme Migration (5/29/2007 1:56:05 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Calandra
Chia,
I have been sitting quietly on the sidelines for long enough. To be honest, I take issue with your term "pigmales". I know that is a term you have been taught by Mystress at MystressWorld, and I respect that it has merit in your training, however I feel that to come onto a forum outside of MystressWorld and advance that term is disrespectful.
Not all males are submissive.
Not all males are submissive to the degree your Mystress desires.
Not all males are submissive for the same reasons your Mystress expects.
Not all males would respond favorably to the training you seem to thrive in.
Some males are confused and using this forum to learn, making many mistakes as they go.
Some males are simply becoming hopeless because (gasp) there are so many lying Dommes.
Not all males who believe differently than you are,are pigmales. That's insulting, and while your "Dearest Mystress" may encourage this terminology, others here do not have to embrace it. I know you are expected to follow the "plan" and "talk up" MystressWorld a certain number of hours and a certain number of places each week, but don't expect people to fit into Mystress' narrow view of D/s philosophy just because you do. I'm glad it works for you. On the other hand, I respect those males who can think for themselves without being brainwashed into thinking that OSODD is the "be-all and end-all" of this lifestyle.
By the way, of those Mistresses you listed, how many of them have you spent time with, face to face?
Dearest Mistress Calandra,
Thank You for stepping out of the shadows and offering exchange, silent voices
offer nothing to no one. You are within your right to take exception to my use of
the word "pigmales", as much as i am in my right to desire not to be grouped with
those i consider to be such. Long before my studies at MystressWorld, i often
referred to those of my gender whom acted as such as "pigs". Dearest Mystress
simply supplied the "males" to complete the package. How is it disrespectful to
call a "pig" a "pig"? There exists endless posts of Dommes whom offer endless
scenerios of the "pig" like behavior spewed at Them, Their examples, not mine.
If i put a name to it other than "submissive", it is because we submissives get
included as a whole within the bad behavior of those whom seek to satisfy their
own desires and kink, acting upon disrespectful behavior which draws so much
displeasure from the Dommes here.
i have never stated any of the references to submission You offer as my own
definition. i have stated in many posts that we are all different in our own
unique way. Here, and in many other posts, it has been myself who has resisted
being grouped and labeled, held to a litmus test of what i should be. The original
line of thought pertained to "submissives" being liars, however humorous it
was presented. We are all liars at some point, i even uped the figure from 99%
to 100% myself. It was specific Dommes whom introduced the sexual innuendo
and rebuked behavior of a sexual nature into the discussion, not myself. The
behavior which They described towards Them was not of a submissive nature,
but more in the line of a typical player, kink, fantasy, "do me" male. i simply
chose to call them "pigmales" because their actions spoke of such to me. Call
the behavior what You will, just don't call it submission, that is my passionate
point in regard to the behavior the Dommes here offered as so very distasteful.
i never stated that all males who believe differently than myself were "pigmales",
simply not a true statement, certainly not made by me. i merely offered the term
as opposed to "submissive" in the context of the converstation concering those
whom the Dommes found the application of immediate and uninvited sexual
request and demand as abhorrent. Again, got a better term? Feel free to use it,
just don't gift such with "submissive", as one, i myself am insulted by such and
refuse to embrace the simplicity and ease of which my submission is afforded
to those whose actions speak anything but.
As for Dearest Mystress and MystressWorld, i have said it before, and i will say
it again here. It isn't for everyone as nothing ever is, will work for some, but not
for all. It is a voluntary, not mandatory approach to study of D/s relationships.
Dearest Mystress's philosophies are mere catalyst for study and discussion
between the submissives and Dommes at MystressWorld. i have often and
openly disagreed or presented a differing view or understanding while in the
exchange of lesson with the Dommes there. "Narrow" as it may be, it is but
a starting point for exploration and discovery, for understanding and insight.
Individual Domme and Her boys are to discuss such as it relates to them,
as it applies to them, pick it apart, turn it asunder, or discard it entirely, it is all
part of the process of learning in a structured environment where proper protcol
is a requirement. i don't think my desire to quell the oh so often barrage of
"what's wrong with the submissives now" is a narrow point of view. The study
regimen at MystressWorld does work for me, and i am Thankful for the fortune
of opportunity to share and learn from the Dommes within, a gift most precious
to my heart. "Brainwashed", You frankly insult me with such accusation, a jab
unworthy of it's intent. i am speaking here, these are my words, from my heart,
and i most definitely can think for myself. There is no one standing over my
shoulder coaching my stream of thought, all clockwork orange and such, that
i will believe only that which i am allowed to believe. Really, that was a pretty
lame statement and a feeble attempt to advance whatever agenda you are
advancing here. ~~Yes Mistress, Yes Mistress~~, oh wait, i was in a bit of a
trance there, please forgive me everyone, please forgive me. Hilarious i must say.
As for any be-all, end-all philosophy reference to the OSODD training series,
i have studied such, have referenced the Pavlovian Theory pertaining to such,
and find it quite interesting and more than applicable as a chosen method,
should a Domme so choose to do so. Can work, and if Pavlov can be believed,
does. Some Dommes will have no interest in such, having Her own desires and
requirements of Her boy, again, it is catalyst for study and research, not the
secret code to a successful D/s relationship. All will require what they will,
allow what they will, be as unique as they will, regardless of subjects one
studies to enhance and enlighten their journey. Apparently, no one here
accesses information beyond their own understanding if Your attitude is to
be considered the norm. Apparently no one reading books relating to any
of the subjects discussed here, for none were mentioned by You.
You are absolutely correct that Dearest Mystress requires of Her boys to offer
the awareness of MystressWorld out in the community wherein we participate.
She calls it recruitment, and it is required of us as a offering of our commitment
as Her boys. i do so when ever the opportunity arises, not so much because i
have to, but because i want to. ~~Yes Mistress, Yes Mistress~~, sorry, gone
again there, but just for a moment. i strongly believe that Dearest Mystress and
MystressWorld have lifted me up into a greater understanding of myself as a
submissive, and has given me glorious insight within the sharing of a Dominant
point of view, not just of Dearest Mystress, but of all the wonderful Dommes
i have had the fortune to study under. i certainly don't punch a time clock in
reference to my recruitment, though this post should cover the week nicely,
Thank You. Is such really any different than what occurs here on a daily basis,
whether above board, or in subtle conversation, or simply listed as link in the
well into the hundreds of profiles and messages. Thanks for singling me out,
what an opportunity, i shall speak to Dearest Mystress about You and Your
kind help for the cause. One couldn't ask for better publicity, whether they
come or not, the seed is planted. The vast majority of what i do and speak
here, is of my own design, separate from my MystressWorld connection,
which is my study program. i am a submissive, i seek to learn, to share, to
communicate with others in the community. i hold hopes, fears and desires
just like everyone else here. i strive to be as honest and genuine as i possibly
can with others i am blessed to meet along the path. CM is no different,
i am not here because i have to be, i am here because i want to be. Before
anything else, i am chia* (the pet) a boy with a heart of gold, and a world
of love and devotion to share. Do not define me with within Your boundries.
By the way, of those Mistresses i listed, i have have spent time with only one
face to face. That would be my most Dearest MotherMistress, the most
Powerful Woman to ever grace my life. i am the reflection of Her command
and requirement. i invite all to read of my devotion to Her in my profile, as
to do such here could not afford Her the glory She is due. The others listed
are wonderful Dommes whom i have had the fortune to study under at
MystressWorld, yes cyber, yes online, but not diminished by such by any
means. i have studied under Their watchful eye for two years, after being
swept up from the disappointment of empty and endless searching in a
world i did not quite understand. As a child, i was held to the design of
the Dominants whom took from me what they desired, creating a heart
of surrender and submission. As an adult, the vanilla world and marriage
found me satisfied but aching for that which was missing, that which had
been my life. The end of my marriage catapulted me into a season of kink,
deviant behavior, and unfulfilled attempts to recapture that which had
raised my heart, mind and body as a child. It was there, tangled within
darkness and deceit where Dearest Mystress found me. Some will say i was
ripe for rescue, and i will be the first to agree with them. i am most grateful
that it was my most beloved Dearest Mystress whom reached out Her hand.
There have been others, few and far between, unworthy experiences to list
among my precious Dommes. One i spoke of here previously, when after
meeting, the conversation immediately turned to bank accounts, power of
attorney etc. As most would understand, i fled from such, as i am a boy,
not simply a bank account. Another spoke firmly and powerfully, but in a
short time, the relationship became as a vanilla coupling, i had no sense of
surrender to Her, as i became simply a lover in Her eyes. Yet another
offered a simple mean spiritedness, spewing vulgarity as if i should be
adoring of such, i was not. One simply wished a plaything for Her elderly
submissive, i wished for more. i ventured into groups, but always felt out
of place in such, feeling ashamed as i walked away. And the beat goes on.
Have i answered Your queries to Your satisfaction Dearest Mistress Calandra?
Or do You wish to see me cut open and bleed just a bit more? i am chia*,
i speak for myself, it is after everything else, my journey, my life to live. Others
will offer their wisdom and insight, i am most often grateful for such. Some will
come for other intent, perhaps to wound, perhaps to uplift themselves in the
process, it matters not. i have lived and survived what has been handed to me,
taken from me, ripped from my heart and body, the eyes of a child are still
here with me, and they see what they see, and every now and then they look
back and remember, and it all begins again, and i find myself looking out
among them, that perhaps one will eventually look back.
Born to serve, chia* (the pet)
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