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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/4/2007 9:01:23 PM

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I was a dancer in high school and college. Women who dance professionally are small breasted and small statured. There is a reason. Men cannot lift them repeatedly during a dance if they weigh over a certain weight. If they have massive breasts or ass or feet or hair it screws up the center of gravity.

There are positives that women with small breasts experience which large breasted women may never experience. It goes the other way as well.

What bothers me about threads about breast size, intelligence, body weight, etc., is that they seem to revolve around this fundamental ideal that X is what delineates perfection, and any deviation from X is sick and wrong.

X is almost never under the person's control, so it is simply setting up the not-X's for failure.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/4/2007 9:24:01 PM

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> sambamanslilgirl... "you enjoyed all oogling stares from men," I would gladly trade mere stares for the issues I deal with. You seem to have no idea what real abuse and torture is about. Basically, I hear the complaint that life is not perfect. How are you tring to change it for the better? You can change the size of your breasts, unlike the color of your skin.

and why would i care to know what real abuse and torture is about? i never complained that life is not perfect - when did i ever say that? you are totally confusing. how am i trying change my life for better? well for starters - being glad i'm not with a Dom like you because you will never understand what i went through as teen.

i know i can always change the size of my breasts (as well as my skin - bleaching it comes to mind) however it's my choice not to because i have 2 Doms who appreciate my breast size ...i mean truly appreciate and love them as well as the whole me - i suppose you missed that part. so what if i'm not like the other women who enjoy the olging stares from men ...i didn't know we women had to be cut from the same dough and enjoy the gazes/comments about our size.

yet you fail to realize, i have the right to complain about my size - i had to live with the negative (very few positive) stereotypes from the male population since high school ...and i see it happening again with my oldest UM (who is also cursed) as she enters high school. so i'm not being a victim here - merely relating what i had experienced as a busty gal ...and yes i sometimes still get annoyed when i'm standing at the bus stop and guy stares at my chest - so rude.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/5/2007 7:45:00 AM

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> AquaticSub (f) ... Have you had your breast reduction surgery yet? It seems that you could make the choice to alleviate the very thing you believe is the source of your anger. If you can remove the problem, but refuse to do so, does that not make you a victim of yourself?

There are things in the world that adversely affect me personally at a SURVIVAL level. Survival means life and death, not just some glaring looks from strangers. While I have a right to be angery, I most often make a choice to not live in anger. Instead of living in the negative shadow stench of my own anger, I simply try to do my best to improve the actual circumstances, and accept that which I cannot change.

Are you listening to us at all?

My breasts do not make me angry. They frustrate me and cause me some health issues, but they don't make me angry.

It is the reaction of men who think it is ok to talk to them that makes me angry. The people who think nothing of coming up and squeezing them without bothering to get my name first. And no, I shouldn't have to get surgery to fix that.

This, however, isn't something that can't be changed. It can be changed and it is being changed. One embaressment at a time as I and other large breasted women I know will, depending on the circumstances, not only make sure that they know we found this behavior unaccaptable, but do it in loud tones so that every person there knows exactly what rude behavior was going on.

This isn't something that can't be changed. This is just bad manners and why you are saying we should accept it is beyond me.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/5/2007 1:26:51 PM

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Sorry to sound like a broken record (how old does that make me sound?

) but this post sounds like just a fishing expedition for wanking material.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/5/2007 8:53:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

> AquaticSub (f) ... Have you had your breast reduction surgery yet? It seems that you could make the choice to alleviate the very thing you believe is the source of your anger. If you can remove the problem, but refuse to do so, does that not make you a victim of yourself?

> sambamanslilgirl... " You can change the size of your breasts..."

Neither of these were directed at me but given my breast issues, that I am not going to discuss here. (Will just say I am neither over busty or small chest more like both) I had to respond to this insanity. You know breast reduction surgery is hardly a minor thing? or something to do lightly? If one does plan to lactate, for any reason, at some point it can permenently hinder that. In addition, it is a surgery, which always carries a risk of death. I may somedays hate my breasts, they do not fit a standard of beauty set by society, but they do what they were ment to do well. I am not going to mess with that or possible death just to because society can not be as mature about my breasts as I am. Gettting an agumentation or reduction is not like going in for a hair cut. Why should I risk death because other people are incapable of behaving properly? I would agree that breast are quite lovely things, yet I can still hold conversations with the women that I know faces.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/6/2007 7:06:11 AM

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There's some enjoyment of objectification in there, but like most men who say they love going down on a woman but it really means they are willing to do it for two minutes and then want to move on- I have found that most men who say they are really into breasts, simply mean they want to touch them and obsess over them without really thinking much about the woman they are attached to.

This analogy is flawed.

In the first part, the man doesn't demonstrate his stated level of interest as much as you think he should. There's a chance he likes doing it, but doesn't like doing it for you. There's also the possibility he likes it so much he has to stop before he forgets his own name, like an alcoholic who's been handed a beer and is using all his effort to get it away from himself... but just takes one little sip... Of course there's also the chance he's full of shit but that's been covered by everybody else.

In the second part he demonstrates his level of interest too much for you. The men you are describing sound, to me, like breast fetishists. Would you feel equally bad if he'd stated that he loves, say, your feet? IMHO, if a man is fetishistic about your breasts, use that to get more oral out of him. quid pro quo.

MasterToSlave - I don't think anyone has to tell you what you want to hear. If people have legitimate questions or complaints they'll say them and if you don't like it then find another board, thanks.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 4:00:53 AM

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Glad to hear these non-responsive answers.

This typifies the same self conflict (hypocrisy) of women who wear makeup, but resent men who look at them.

I addressed my posts to those who have significant complaints, beyond mere nuisance. Even those who have previously stated that they strongly want breast reduction surgery, they have a negative response to anything whatsoever related to breasts. YES, this is sad, not for me, but for them. What a living hell to reject your own body, even resent it...

> My breasts do not make me angry. It is the reaction of men ... that makes me angry.
I see. Men cause you to be angery. There is NO superceding cause? It has nothing to do with you. You are merely the total VICTIM. You have nothing to do with it. That must be why you take it personally -- because it has nothing to do with you. It is all THEIR fault... You are not angery, even though things happen that make you feel anger??? MAKE -- FORCE you to feel so much that you create dysmorphic art sculpture out of it. So you are, but you aren't.

There is another direction to find peace with one's body. I hope eventually, you can find that peace.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 4:29:52 AM

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Yup, I thought for sure there'd be plenty to read in a post starting off like this. Suddenly I'm really glad I'm not any more interested in "busty" women than the rest of them. Frankly, you guys are scaring me off--even though I manage to keep my eyes on the waitress's eyes at Hooters. :|

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 4:37:46 AM

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Trolling Trolling Trolling over the wanking scenes...

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 8:23:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: aldompdx

Glad to hear these non-responsive answers.

This typifies the same self conflict (hypocrisy) of women who wear makeup, but resent men who look at them.

I addressed my posts to those who have significant complaints, beyond mere nuisance. Even those who have previously stated that they strongly want breast reduction surgery, they have a negative response to anything whatsoever related to breasts. YES, this is sad, not for me, but for them. What a living hell to reject your own body, even resent it...

> My breasts do not make me angry. It is the reaction of men ... that makes me angry.
I see. Men cause you to be angery. There is NO superceding cause? It has nothing to do with you. You are merely the total VICTIM. You have nothing to do with it. That must be why you take it personally -- because it has nothing to do with you. It is all THEIR fault... You are not angery, even though things happen that make you feel anger??? MAKE -- FORCE you to feel so much that you create dysmorphic art sculpture out of it. So you are, but you aren't.

There is another direction to find peace with one's body. I hope eventually, you can find that peace.

Actually, I'm not a victim.

But thanks for trying to label me as one.

And yes, having the bad manners to stare at someone's sex organs be they on top or bottom is still rude and women still don't have to put up with it.

I have made peace with my body. I love it in fact and the only changes I'm making are because of health issues, not because people are rude. Clearly, you have yet to make peace with the fact that oogling women is rude and we are allowed be angry.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 9:13:26 AM

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you still don't get it ...here perhaps if i use tiny words maybe you will:

my eyes are located on my face
not my breasts
staring or talking to me below my neck
is rude

do i need to draw you a diagram?

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 9:15:39 AM

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I never was any good at blueprinting kinda things, could you just send me some arial recon?

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 9:21:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: aldompdx

> AquaticSub (f) ... Have you had your breast reduction surgery yet? It seems that you could make the choice to alleviate the very thing you believe is the source of your anger. If you can remove the problem, but refuse to do so, does that not make you a victim of yourself?

There are things in the world that adversely affect me personally at a SURVIVAL level. Survival means life and death, not just some glaring looks from strangers. While I have a right to be angery, I most often make a choice to not live in anger. Instead of living in the negative shadow stench of my own anger, I simply try to do my best to improve the actual circumstances, and accept that which I cannot change.

Are you listening to us at all?

It is the reaction of men who think it is ok to talk to them that makes me angry. The people who think nothing of coming up and squeezing them without bothering to get my name first. And no, I shouldn't have to get surgery to fix that.

Unfortunately with the onslaught of Paris Hilton wannabes I have had much more enjoyable as well as stimulating conversations with a woman's breasts than her brain.

If you have people walkng up and squeezing your titties then there really is some sort of a problem....(That is the oddest comment I have ever heard). My large breasted gal pals never have had this problem...So it must be your approach....Rather than the size of your tits.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 9:30:34 AM

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Ok, I will only say this at this point, if you find the topic interesting please express your ideas, but if you don't please don't post offensive things like wanking etc.

wanker wanker wanker

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 9:31:41 AM

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I once had a girlfriend who stood somewhat less than 5 foot. Her weight was proportionate, not a horridly chubby girl at all. The thing was, that her tits were not titties but somewhat (large somewhat) larger than basketballs.

You would not believe the incredibly rude shit that went on, random people walking up to her in common public situations and grabbing her breasts, or wailing at the top of their lungs about the size, and while I agree that tits are one of womens assets (otherwise why show cleavage) that was outrageous.

How I snagged her? I sat and talked to her in a bar, and at close range didn't stare once (for about 15 minutes) that was the day that visine first came to public attention, I had to buy cases of the shit, my eye muscles were flat worn out from the effort.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 9:41:08 AM

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Glad to hear these non-responsive answers.

Just because you don’t have the insight to understand what they are saying doesn’t make their answers non-responsive. In fact, you are the one who isn’t responding to the message here.

quote:

this is sad, not for me, but for them. What a living hell to reject your own body, even resent it...

Consider, if you will, what it is like to be female. Pre-puberty, males and females look much alike from the waist up. Once we develop breasts, not only do we need to learn to deal with the changes in our bodies, but also are forced to deal with the changes in the way we are perceived. Suddenly we are treated differently at a time in life that is already emotionally tumultuous. Our breasts bounce when we walk or run which in turn garners attention that makes us uncomfortable. We don’t mean it as a sexual come-on; our intent is to walk from point A to point B without undue notice. It is, at times, not only embarrassing, but terrifying. Some women choose to wield their breasts as power, some choose to attempt to hide them. Some just wish they could be seen as a person rather than a set of magnificent mammary glands.
It seems that you don’t understand that we can love our bodies and at the same time hate the untoward reactions to them.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 10:11:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I never was any good at blueprinting kinda things, could you just send me some arial recon?

Gen. Curtis LeMay

do you have the proper security clearance, General?

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 10:56:53 AM

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How I snagged her? I sat and talked to her in a bar, and at close range didn't stare once (for about 15 minutes) that was the day that visine first came to public attention, I had to buy cases of the shit, my eye muscles were flat worn out from the effort.

Ron

You are a man amongst men.....

It is true that men can be pigs....And though I have seen a bazillion pairs of those golden globes.....Each time I view a set of new ones, my reaction is like I have just spotted a leprechaun. I am but a child....With a huge cock...That the other children would only poke fun at.

It reminds me of a song by John Hartford who unfortunately died in 2001

The Golden Globe Award
I’m gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award
For those Golden Globes of yours, oh they’re so fine
So round, so firm, so fully packed
And just right for my hand
Makes me wanna go around and around your world
And then go round again.
I’m gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award
For both of your Globes
You can put them in my face just any old time
Oh those Golden Globes
There ain’t none better
I gotta have them both
‘Cause they both go together.
Gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award.
I’m gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award
For those Golden Globes of yours, oh they’re so neat
Finest globes I know about
Or know I’ve ever seen
In or out a Penthouse, Oui
Or Playboy magazine.
I’m gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award
For both of your Globes
You can put them in my face just any old time
Oh those Golden Globes
There ain’t none better
I gotta have them both
‘Cause they both go together
Gonna see you get that Golden Globe award.
– Instrumental –
I’m gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award
For those Golden Globes of yours, oh they’re so fine
This mornin’ when you took your bath
And stood in the sun to dry
I was inspired when I looked up
And saw them in the sky.
I’m gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award
For both of your Globes
You can put them in my face just any old time
Oh those Golden Globes
There ain’t none better
I gotta have them both
‘Cause they both go together
Gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award
For both of your sunbeams
I’m gonna see you get that Golden Globe Award.

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 11:17:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

you still don't get it ...here perhaps if i use tiny words maybe you will:

my eyes are located on my face
not my breasts
staring or talking to me below my neck
is rude

do i need to draw you a diagram?

Don't you know, wanting people to be polite makes you a victim who hates her body!

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RE: Busty slaves/subs - 6/9/2007 11:21:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

If you have people walkng up and squeezing your titties then there really is some sort of a problem....(That is the oddest comment I have ever heard). My large breasted gal pals never have had this problem...So it must be your approach....Rather than the size of your tits.

Well, it has happened at a particular BDSM event that I just don't attend alone anymore. *shrugs* It doesn't happen as long as Valyraen is there.

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