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Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 10:24:12 AM   
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 So in my never-ending quest to make all my scholarly endeavors into an excuse to research BDSM and its practices, I am now writing a paper that takes various works of art and compares them to BDSM activities. I will be addressing if the activity is being displayed accurately and safely, and if not how it is done safely.

Yeah... my teachers love me.

Anyway, so the first work of art is "The Ecstasy of St. Theresa," which depicts a nun in the throes of religious ecstasy as an angel prepares to impale her with an arrow. I'm hoping to discuss it in the terms of needle play (practice of inserting needles into the flesh). However, for this, I need some sort of reference (preferably written) on the safe how-tos of needle play. Does anyone know of any books that contain that information?

Also, if anyone has any other paintings or artwork that they would suggest, feel free! 

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:01:34 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_551383/mpage_3/key_needles%252Cart/tm.htm#552113

http://www.collarchat.com/m_615432/mpage_3/key_needles%252Cart/tm.htm#716938

http://www.collarchat.com/m_218673/mpage_1/key_needles%252Cart/tm.htm#218673

http://www.collarchat.com/m_794672/mpage_1/key_needles/tm.htm#794804

http://www.collarchat.com/m_672814/mpage_2/key_needles/tm.htm#678348

http://www.collarchat.com/m_623557/mpage_2/key_needles/tm.htm#630638

http://www.collarchat.com/m_778932/mpage_1/key_needles/tm.htm#784837


Well Im no LA but I hope these help


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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:08:33 PM   
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*chuckles* We can't all be LA! Thanks though. I'm really hoping this paper comes together and quickly. I really need to find some other pieces (hopefully classical) but we'll just have to see.

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:10:29 PM   
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No we cant all be LA but we can dream cant we

Good luck and if I can be of any more help lemme know Im dieing of bordeom since school let out for me!!!!

Leave it to you to pick the hardest topics though

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:11:59 PM   
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Ummm... I'm a scholarly masochist?

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:34:28 PM   
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quote:

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Ummm... I'm a scholarly masochist?


LOL now that is a catigory I fit in to.. Im the only person who would take law classes as an elective... I was so stressed out about them all semester Master said he'd punish me if I ever took electives like that again because it is needless stress.


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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:38:49 PM   
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You know Jessica, I have to issue you an apology. You see, I have no idea you cared about me this much!

I mean, here you are, doing me favors! You keep bumping my thread to make sure that plenty of people read it! That's so sweet of you! The more people that read it, the better the chances of someone giving me some advice for my paper.

I really had no idea you were that concerned with my academic success.

Thank you!

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:40:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Ummm... I'm a scholarly masochist?


LOL now that is a catigory I fit in to.. Im the only person who would take law classes as an elective... I was so stressed out about them all semester Master said he'd punish me if I ever took electives like that again because it is needless stress.


Magik's slave


Actually, we've got an awesome law teacher who I loved taking classes with. I'd take more with him but I don't have the time for it. It stinks.

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:41:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Ummm... I'm a scholarly masochist?


LOL now that is a catigory I fit in to.. Im the only person who would take law classes as an elective... I was so stressed out about them all semester Master said he'd punish me if I ever took electives like that again because it is needless stress.


Magik's slave


Actually, we've got an awesome law teacher who I loved taking classes with. I'd take more with him but I don't have the time for it. It stinks.


That's a bummer. An awesome teacher is a great and rare treasure.

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:41:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Ummm... I'm a scholarly masochist?


LOL now that is a catigory I fit in to.. Im the only person who would take law classes as an elective... I was so stressed out about them all semester Master said he'd punish me if I ever took electives like that again because it is needless stress.


Magik's slave


Actually, we've got an awesome law teacher who I loved taking classes with. I'd take more with him but I don't have the time for it. It stinks.


Oh I loved the classes and learned a lot of usefull stuff... But man they where a lot of work and stress!!!

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 12:42:47 PM   
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I know! I took the basic law and justice class with him and loved it. He made it really interesting stuff.

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 1:26:14 PM   
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AS ---

I don't have any info on needle play to offer, but it sounds like a fascinating paper.

One tidbit that might help: I'm guessing the saint in question is Teresa of Avila, whose name often appears without the H. Knowing that might help you find more information about her. She and Catherine of Siena were the first woman to be considered "doctors of the church," or saints whose widsom is especially worthy of study.

Good luck with your paper!

Cheers,

DC


That is a really good idea. I'll definately be doing some research into her. If I remember correctly, the angel stabbing her with the arrow is part of a religious vision she had. Because she described the pain as both terrible and wonderful (I think) is one of the reasons I'm so interested in this piece!

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 2:21:23 PM   
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I was just curious, do you think jessykapowwwer is related to Kurtkaboom? Brother and sister, maybe?

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 3:08:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

 So in my never-ending quest to make all my scholarly endeavors into an excuse to research BDSM and its practices, I am now writing a paper that takes various works of art and compares them to BDSM activities. 

Also, if anyone has any other paintings or artwork that they would suggest, feel free! 




Aquatic,

Don't know if this is along the lines you were thinking about ...  here is a link to the painting .......

CGFA- Bartolomeo Manfredi: Cupid Chastised

And a bit about the painting itself ........

The Art Institute of Chicago: The Collection: Selected Works

Good Luck!



< Message edited by gypsyfirefly -- 6/2/2007 3:12:52 PM >


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Disregard the Noise - 6/2/2007 3:09:07 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_987951/tm.htm

 

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 3:15:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

 So in my never-ending quest to make all my scholarly endeavors into an excuse to research BDSM and its practices, I am now writing a paper that takes various works of art and compares them to BDSM activities. 

Also, if anyone has any other paintings or artwork that they would suggest, feel free! 




Aquatic,

Don't know if this is along the lines you were thinking about ...  here is a link to the painting .......

CGFA- Bartolomeo Manfredi: Cupid Chastised

And a bit about the painting itself ........

The Art Institute of Chicago: The Collection: Selected Works

Good Luck!




Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! I wanted to find a way to include flogging!

HUZZAH!

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 3:57:04 PM   
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You're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome!

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 4:03:32 PM   
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Aqua,
If you're still looking for artwork, a depiction of St. Sebastian would be worth analyzing -- pretty boy tied to a tree, stuck full of arrows. Boticelli's is a place to start but there are tons out there by various artists.

...and a line from Waugh's "Brideshead Revisited," just because it amused me:
To Sebastian he said: "My dear, I should like to stick you full of barbed arrows like a p-p-pin-cushion."

...hope that helped a bit!

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RE: Needles and art! - 6/2/2007 8:24:36 PM   
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St. Sebastian could be a whole paper in himself!

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