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RE: leaving the Union - 6/4/2007 7:55:07 PM   
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The American Civil War was about State's Rights,

Specifically the Right TO HOLD ON TO AFRICAN SLAVES IN PERPETUITY AS CHATTEL PROPERTY AND THE ABILITY TO FREELY EXPAND SAID INSTITUTION.

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RE: leaving the Union - 6/4/2007 8:02:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

The American Civil War was about State's Rights,

Specifically the Right TO HOLD ON TO AFRICAN SLAVES IN PERPETUITY AS CHATTEL PROPERTY AND THE ABILITY TO FREELY EXPAND SAID INSTITUTION.


Is this your opinion or do you actually have a reference?

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RE: leaving the Union - 6/4/2007 8:10:44 PM   
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There were more "white" slaves than black!! It was far cheaper to pay someone's ship fare to America thna to buy a slave. Few if any ever paid their endenture off, so for all practicule reasons they were slaves.

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RE: leaving the Union - 6/4/2007 8:12:18 PM   
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The civil war was about the states' rights, however, the first part, 'TO HOLD ON TO AFRICAN SLAVES IN PERPETUITY AS CHATTEL PROPERTY,' is incorrect and the second half 'THE ABILITY TO FREELY EXPAND SAID INSTITUTION' only tells part of the story. Lincoln never actually threatened the existence of slavery in states where it was already present; he merely passed anti-slavery bills in states where it didn't exist. Lincoln didn't plan to end slavery--he just didn't want it to spread and the slave states thought that this might in turn cause slavery to die. The other part that you missed is the whole secession thing. The war probably wouldn't have happened if the Confederates wouldn't have claimed the right to secede—previous to secession, no hostile actions were taken. In essence, it would be more accurate to say that the Civil War was about the states' right to secede, not to own slaves.  The Civil War started for a plethora of reasons; to say that a war was about a single thing is quite erroneous.

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RE: leaving the Union - 6/4/2007 9:06:05 PM   
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Christ Almighty, I actually agree with FatDomDaddy about something.

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RE: leaving the Union - 6/4/2007 9:40:51 PM   
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if they want to secede i am movin in!

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