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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 12:43:54 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

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ORIGINAL: msglass

hello a/All and in particularly Tenderfootedmaster;

okay, so i will admit, i am usually just a voyeur in terms of forums (among other things)-

but i happen to be one of those 161, and messaged You back telling You that my profile was clearly not read, to a point where i was insulted that You offered all things i specifically say i am NOT looking for. i didnt even have to check your profile or how You express Yourself.

just noting that us 161 have some steam to blow off as well.



You are in Kansas, and she is in OHIO and looking for local people!  Then you and her interests are vastly different to the point of being obviously incompatible?

Tell us the truth now.  Did you run a search and then just respond to the first 166 women who popped up meeting your search criteria?


Honestly, yes...

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 12:47:36 AM   
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You don't find that you did that, and are even admitting to it to be just a bit of living in Bizarro World? 

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 12:50:43 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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You don't find that you did that, and are even admitting to it to be just a bit of living in Bizarro World? 


I call it more of a coming to realization. Like I said I just went overboard.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 12:52:00 AM   
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Well, I need to get off here and go to bed. (Need to get up at 5:30am and its 1:02am, ouch)...


*uses her sternest mommy tone of voice*  Go to bed!




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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 12:52:55 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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ORIGINAL: losttreasure

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ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster

Well, I need to get off here and go to bed. (Need to get up at 5:30am and its 1:02am, ouch)...


*uses on her sternest mommy tone of voice*  Go to bed!






I already tried to, I cant fall asleep. PT is ganna suck today!

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 12:55:49 AM   
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I already tried to, I cant fall asleep. PT is ganna suck today!


lol... I imagine it will.

You can always go on sick call.


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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 12:58:54 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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ORIGINAL: losttreasure

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I already tried to, I cant fall asleep. PT is ganna suck today!


lol... I imagine it will.

You can always go on sick call.



Yeah, but I still have to show up for PT and do it. it’s a run day tomorrow so hopefully it’ll be a short distance!

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 1:07:39 AM   
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Yeah, but I still have to show up for PT and do it. it’s a run day tomorrow so hopefully it’ll be a short distance!


I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. 

For what it's worth, while your actions up to the point where you started this thread aren't exactly praiseworthy, I believe you've handled yourself very well here and have shown considerable maturity and good sense.  If you're always this quick to realize your errors and willing to make necessary changes, I think you'll make a fine Master in due time.

Best Wishes,

Treasure


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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 1:18:48 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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ORIGINAL: losttreasure

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ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster

Yeah, but I still have to show up for PT and do it. it’s a run day tomorrow so hopefully it’ll be a short distance!


I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. 

For what it's worth, while your actions up to the point where you started this thread aren't exactly praiseworthy, I believe you've handled yourself very well here and have shown considerable maturity and good sense.  If you're always this quick to realize your errors and willing to make necessary changes, I think you'll make a fine Master in due time.

Best Wishes,

Treasure



Thank you very much for your kind words. I try and sometimes I try to hard. It takes a good leader to step back, let others see how you did something. Take criticism and drive on, only to better yourself.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 1:51:16 AM   
tenderfootmaster


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For those of you are following this thread, I have just updated my profile. Hopefully it is more professional and realistic.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 1:57:53 AM   
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Well, your post was going to come under fire, simply because it was a common thread bemoaning the non answer of emails.
 
But full kudos to you for standing your ground and accepting that there may be a few errors made.
So welcome to CM.
 
Your profile has been suggested to be altered by others and I would have to say it isn't my cup of tea - but to each their own and my advice is to stick to what you want to write and be true to yourself.  Don't change it if it isn't going to reflect who you really are.  The one thing I would suggest is that there are alot of inconsistant words there - your profile name is tenderfootmaster, but the profile says you don;t call yourself a master - (this is just one example).  It would just send up warning flags to me.
 
Plus you haven't been here long at all.  And 166 mails is ALOT in such a small timescale.  My thought is you are wrapped up in 'frenzy' - everything is new and exciting.  But I would recommend you shouldn't even be entertaining the idea of taking on submissives or slaves if you are new.  Take a deep breath and I would suggest 6months to a year before you even contemplate taking anyone on.  It is obvious by your writings you aren;t even sure about yourself, and if you can't control or understand yourself - how can you care for another?
 
And try not to send 'skeleton' emails.  Treat everyone as an individual and be personal with them - standard form mails aren't attractive and look lazy (IMO).
 
And get some sleep!  Learn to look after yourself, then you can look after another
 
Peace


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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 2:15:22 AM   
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Ok, I read the first profile and then the updated one.  Sounds a little better.  Still, you need to get that silly application off your journal for the time being.  Keep it in a file to send out to someone that is truly interested in continuing something with you maybe.


Oh-- and about having to run PT in a few hours---- just imagine all those 166 lucky submissives that you mass emailed all running after you with whips, chains, floggers, violet wands, duct tape and saran wrap............ ready to really teach you the "other side" of being what you claim.  That's gonna get your blood pumping, I'm sure!

Now, go whack off and get some sleep.  You're still a youngster and need your rest.  Things will get better for you--- just slow down and don't rush headstrong into something so new to you.

Bless your heart.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 2:26:07 AM   
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Two fake messages in one week? We are just getting ahead of ourselves!

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 6/6/2007 2:29:52 AM >


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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 2:28:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster

quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

quote:

ORIGINAL: msglass

hello a/All and in particularly Tenderfootedmaster;

okay, so i will admit, i am usually just a voyeur in terms of forums (among other things)-

but i happen to be one of those 161, and messaged You back telling You that my profile was clearly not read, to a point where i was insulted that You offered all things i specifically say i am NOT looking for. i didnt even have to check your profile or how You express Yourself.

just noting that us 161 have some steam to blow off as well.



You are in Kansas, and she is in OHIO and looking for local people!  Then you and her interests are vastly different to the point of being obviously incompatible?

Tell us the truth now.  Did you run a search and then just respond to the first 166 women who popped up meeting your search criteria?


Honestly, yes...


And you are surprised that you didn't a 100% response rate? Hell, that's exactly the sort of search tactics that Valyraen and I take great pleasure in snarking!

My firm position on the matter: If you can't be bothered to read a profile, then you can't be bothered to be a good partner.

Chill down - start reading profiles and find the women whose criteria you fit. That should help your response rate anyway.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 6/6/2007 2:30:48 AM >


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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 2:38:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tenderfootmaster


Fake or Real - Profiles and Initial Contact
Well, I have been on this site for 4 days now. I really haven’t gotten any responses from anyone I messaged except for a few. Out of 166 messages I sent out, only 61 have actually replied with at least something. I mean, I’m not saying submissives and slaves are pieces of shit and are required to send out a reply to Dominants, but come on! You submissives and slaves want to be treated with respect and dignity and then you don’t show Us respect by saying yes or no to Our messages. A simple little note is suffice. You don’t have to write a book of why you feel the way you do, just acknowledge Us the why we did you.
And look at Our profiles! Your always quick to yell at Us for not looking at yours. You can do Us a favor and look at Ours. Hell, maybe you might find something on there that you like.
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i guess if you have sent out 166 messages in one day you cant be that bothered in anyone, quantity rather than quality. But i think you should think about the feasability of the thing, for example i get about 30-40 messages a day, when i get ones from someone im not interested in or their mail is either too flimsy or seems like a bulk, it is tempting to not reply, its not about lacking respect, its just about the fact that its tiresome getting so many generic mails sometimes.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 2:41:30 AM   
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Good luck with the application. I'd be surprised if anyone completes it, especially in the beginning without any initial contact. People on this site do not give out detailed personal information from the get go. There are way too many "players/wankers" on this site and until a sub/slave is confident the person they're corresponding with is actually a twue lifestyler, personal information is kept to a minimum.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 3:07:17 AM   
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Awwww how CUTE!! Well, seeing as you claim to have only been here four days...... you've only been here four days! Some people read and reply later, some read and do not deem yours words worthy of reply, and some reply politely, or not so, fairly quickly. This sounds so silly to me, and I don't know why I am replying truly... but eh, why not? If you put your heart and soul into 166 messages to random people, well, your heart and soul have a very low combined value, in my eyes. I have been here nearly 3 years, and have probably emailed that many people, truly putting time into reading their profiles and being choosey, for friendships and otherwise! Many people try to reach out and put a lil care here and there into messages, but part of sending them is knowing that they may go unread or deleted as you said. That's the internet, that's the way people are! Not everyone here is actively seeking, even if their profile claims so, and everyone's idea of "actively seeking" is different. Some people desire to email back and forth for a couple months before going to a messenger, some go straight to it, some won't talk on the phone for months to years, some expect it the first night. Some move in after only a few months and some require intense getting to know time over years! Everyone is different. Your approach is childish, if even real! 

Edited to add: Believing in "love at first site" (be it love, or connection between Dom/sub, Master/slave, etc) is not the childish part, but EXPECTING 100% reply rate. That would be like...... applying to 100 places of employment and expecting calls back from each and every one of them even if they each had hundreds of applicants just to say "no thanks" ~ While some places of employment are respectful and kind enough to do so, most do not. While it's nice to believe in miracles like "love at first site" and miracles do exist, they are rare, and should be treated as such, not as an expectation. Remember, the real world doesn't always work the way "The Secret" does.... You can't live like you have girls you don't have without looking like an idiot and scaring away the ones worth anything.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 3:34:42 AM   
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Yes, you mean to bitch.....But you obviously haven't heard about the New and Improved "Domiguy's Laws and Letters of  Attraction 2007"......166 messages sent and 61 responses aint all bad.....But why send out 166 messages when you vould send out 16,660? I will teach you how to take those responses and turn them into pussy.....PINK GOLD!!!!......All for three easy payments of $19.99.

Here are some endorsements form satisfied customers....


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Now I am A mean grumpy, ornery dude from up North with a motherfuckin' shit load of pussy!
Sincerely,
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I just recieved a blow job from my sub while she was being eaten out by my slave....Thanks Domiguy!

Your the best,
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So tenderfootmaster if you want to change those messages to meat wallets...Pay the price and get those go-go holes.

Satisfaction guaranteed!!!.... If it says Domiguy...You know it's gotta be good....Damn Good!!!


Hahaha.  Coffee coming out the nose DOES NOT feel good.

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 3:42:00 AM   
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well , sometimes people get overly excited and frenzied when they are new to the bdsm world....he seems to know what not to do now...welcome to the boards tender. my suggestion would be to find a local group or munch to attend..lots of good people in the scene to learn and grow from.
take care,
jennifer

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RE: I don’t mean to bitch, just blowing off some steam! - 6/6/2007 4:30:42 AM   
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You should drop the application forms you have on your Journal.  Start by first finding one submissive/slave.  Rethink this whole madness of the slave stucture you have outlined.  What you are currently seeking is not very realistic.

I'm almost blown away that you state you have 6 years experience?  I actually find it almost unbelievable you have 6 years of experience from reading your profile.   You could probally send out 10,000 emails and not get anywhere because of your profile and Journal entries.

Ok, so at 22, you have 6 years experience.  Sorry, but that red flag is snapping in the wind.  Define experience, eh?  (Masturbating to bondage pictures, RPG, shopping online for toys?  Reading the abundant websites?  Sorry, none of it is "experience.")  There's no shame in being new, in fact it's a wonderful thing if you allow yourself to learn...

Rachet back a good bit and allow yourself to read and learn, get out into your local community, all good bits of advice from people who have been incredibly kind in their responses to your original question (and the original profile, good gravy!).  Best of luck to you.

Red

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