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RE: Relationship and Finance (a bit of a rant) - 6/8/2007 3:36:28 PM   
BeingChewsie


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I would be actively trying to get the patients wishes followed, which would be for the hospital to follow their protocol with someone who has an advance directive in place. It isn't my decision to make, he has already made the decisions and placed them in a living will and named a person with POA. Millions of people have them, this is nothing new or surprising to ER staff.



As far as I'm aware a living will won't do you much good if you are in a place that doesn't have a copy (say you were out of town) and you don't either.


Agreed, but it changes nothing I'm still unable to legally or otherwise make medical decisions for him. Being away is an issue my owner took into consideration and what I said still stands, I inform the hospital he has one and that he has a person with POA over his medical decisions, that person is not me but this is how to contact them and I will try as well. The hospital has a protocol for what they can legally do in those cases, be it life-saving measures or whatever, they will do whatever they can do to cover their own asses. I would never be asked to make the decision, as the moment I said he has an advance directive and someone else has medical POA, they would do what they had to do in that case. In other words they would do whatever they do in the case of a person who comes in alone and is informed by whoever they contact that the person has a advance directive. I have no authority to legally make decisions for him.

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I'm not saying that a sub or slave should make a decision contrary to their owner's wishes, but that I would think a sub/slave would take an active role in trying to get their owner's desires done, and if needed, to make a decision based on what they know of their owner's desires


I would not be allowed to make medical decisions for him, I am not his wife nor his medical proxy. The active role per my owner I am to take is to make the calls I have been instructed to make. That is what I know about his wishes in regard to his healthcare. I know that he does not have a DNR or DNI, but as far as what decisons he wants made that is something he discussed with the person who has medical POA in the case of him beng unable to make decisions.

She can only make a *needed* decisions if they would ask her, without being his wife or his medical proxy, she won't be that person. She can scream it up and down the halls but legally she can't make decisions for him if she is not his wife or if she does not have medical POA. I would not even be allowed into the ICU(if he were there), nevermind be allowed to make decisions regarding his health.

I understand what you are saying and in cases where the slave is charged with making sure his wishes are followed she should do exactly as he wishes. My point was to illustrate not all slaves are put in the position to be able to make those decisions.

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RE: Relationship and Finance (a bit of a rant) - 6/8/2007 5:03:56 PM   
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My point was to illustrate not all slaves are put in the position to be able to make those decisions.


I am fully aware.

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RE: Relationship and Finance (a bit of a rant) - 6/8/2007 9:08:01 PM   
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Here is what I think is an interesting "sub" (no pun intended) question for those who are not going to be in the position of making any decisions or having any part in what happens when their master dies or becomes ill....

Obviously those of you that posted are completely comfortable with how the situation will be handled should some tragic event occur.  What about what becomes of YOU?  Are you at least aware of how YOU will be taken care of?  What will happen to you should your master die or become incapable of caring for you?  I sincerely hope that those of you in this position are not totally in the dark about that.  Your master may have decided that you are not to take part in any of the life altering decisions about HIS finances or his illness, and you are certainly entitled to feel fine about that.  But isn't it important to know what will become of YOU at that time?  Will you be left to fend for yourself with no master or the means that existed to care for you?  Are you being bequeathed to someone else to do with as you please?  I would think that THESE questions should be important.

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RE: Relationship and Finance (a bit of a rant) - 6/9/2007 5:01:29 AM   
BeingChewsie


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Here is what I think is an interesting "sub" (no pun intended) question for those who are not going to be in the position of making any decisions or having any part in what happens when their master dies or becomes ill....

Obviously those of you that posted are completely comfortable with how the situation will be handled should some tragic event occur.  What about what becomes of YOU?  Are you at least aware of how YOU will be taken care of?  What will happen to you should your master die or become incapable of caring for you?  I sincerely hope that those of you in this position are not totally in the dark about that.  Your master may have decided that you are not to take part in any of the life altering decisions about HIS finances or his illness, and you are certainly entitled to feel fine about that.  But isn't it important to know what will become of YOU at that time?  Will you be left to fend for yourself with no master or the means that existed to care for you?  Are you being bequeathed to someone else to do with as you please?  I would think that THESE questions should be important.



We discussed all these things in depth, as these were the important things for me, not kink related stuff.  I'm not bequeathed to anyone, I'm not a cat, I don't need placement in a new home. The financial issues are handled. I'd be able to keep going(I'm employed) and be able to move to a new place( he has provided for that). The only thing I would be feeling would be the terrible sense of loss.

Those are important questions, along with the financial ones.

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RE: Relationship and Finance (a bit of a rant) - 6/9/2007 7:20:11 AM   
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I'm not bequeathed to anyone, I'm not a cat, I don't need placement in a new home
.....great point.  Master and I have had pretty much the same conversation....slave luci


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RE: Relationship and Finance (a bit of a rant) - 6/9/2007 8:51:56 AM   
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Here is what I think is an interesting "sub" (no pun intended) question for those who are not going to be in the position of making any decisions or having any part in what happens when their master dies or becomes ill....

Obviously those of you that posted are completely comfortable with how the situation will be handled should some tragic event occur.  What about what becomes of YOU?  Are you at least aware of how YOU will be taken care of?  What will happen to you should your master die or become incapable of caring for you?  I sincerely hope that those of you in this position are not totally in the dark about that.  Your master may have decided that you are not to take part in any of the life altering decisions about HIS finances or his illness, and you are certainly entitled to feel fine about that.  But isn't it important to know what will become of YOU at that time?  Will you be left to fend for yourself with no master or the means that existed to care for you?  Are you being bequeathed to someone else to do with as you please?  I would think that THESE questions should be important.



We discussed all these things in depth, as these were the important things for me, not kink related stuff.  I'm not bequeathed to anyone, I'm not a cat, I don't need placement in a new home. The financial issues are handled. I'd be able to keep going(I'm employed) and be able to move to a new place( he has provided for that). The only thing I would be feeling would be the terrible sense of loss.

Those are important questions, along with the financial ones.


I ask the question not to be insulting, but because I know there are at least some here who are NOT employed and have no means to support themselves in the future.  I am very glad to hear that in your relationship, those plans have been made.  Essentially, I was speaking more to those who don't work outside the relationship and in all likelihood won't work at all during the relationship at any job that will afford them the ability to support themselves should the need arise.

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RE: Relationship and Finance (a bit of a rant) - 6/9/2007 8:58:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Here is what I think is an interesting "sub" (no pun intended) question for those who are not going to be in the position of making any decisions or having any part in what happens when their master dies or becomes ill....

Obviously those of you that posted are completely comfortable with how the situation will be handled should some tragic event occur.  What about what becomes of YOU?  Are you at least aware of how YOU will be taken care of?  What will happen to you should your master die or become incapable of caring for you?  I sincerely hope that those of you in this position are not totally in the dark about that.  Your master may have decided that you are not to take part in any of the life altering decisions about HIS finances or his illness, and you are certainly entitled to feel fine about that.  But isn't it important to know what will become of YOU at that time?  Will you be left to fend for yourself with no master or the means that existed to care for you?  Are you being bequeathed to someone else to do with as you please?  I would think that THESE questions should be important.


in my case, in the event of his death, my Master has arranged for me to be "willed" to another Master. He has no desire for me to ever live an independent life, and it would be contradictory to his ways and beliefs to train or teach me how to function independently. He also feels that i should remain a slave until the day i die, something i very much agree with. however i do not relish the thought of belonging to anyone other than my Master, and to be brutally honest, if my Master were to pass away i would have zero will or desire to live, and it would take every ounce of strength in me not to follow him to the other side. He has made me promise that i will not take my life when/if he dies before me, and i truly hope that's a promise i'm able to keep.

so obviously, at that point, issues like money or security would be irrelevant to me.

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