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subfever -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/7/2007 11:31:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I don't remember Mel Gibson, Sean Penn or Robert Downey Jr. being busted multiple times and refusing to do any part of their sentences, admit they had a problem or try to seek help. None of them cried that they were being treated unfairly. She was initially given a very light sentence and there were things she was court ordered to do....she chose not to and she chose to violate her probation.


You don't like Paris very much, do you? ... [;)]




subfever -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/7/2007 11:36:41 PM)

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Martha Stewart served some time in prison.


Yes, she did... although I believe that was politically motivated.

Nevertheless, I agree with everything else in your post.




peepeegirl5 -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/7/2007 11:40:35 PM)

Forgive them Paris, they know not what they do!!!




agoodboy -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/7/2007 11:45:20 PM)

Peepee girl for president! Since our social values have gone this far, let's jump over the edge!




tenderfootmaster -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 12:53:24 AM)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k66epna2Sss




brightspot -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 1:11:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: selfbnd411

TMZ is reporting that her "condition" was not medical at all.  She just didn't like being in jail:

"Law enforcement sources tell TMZ Paris Hilton's medical condition was purely psychological and that she was in peril of having a nervous breakdown, and that's why she was released early this morning. Psychiatrist Charles Sophy visited Hilton in jail yesterday and the day before. We're told after Sophy's visit yesterday, word was passed to the Sheriff that Hilton's mental state was fragile and she was at risk. The reason for releasing her had nothing to do with a rash or other physical issues. It was purely in her head."

http://www.laist.com/2007/06/07/paris_hilton_ge.php




Logically speaking and probably how it would happen to the regular folk...
 
First I appologize if someone already said this,
 If she was having psychological problems then she should have be given the ankle bracelet and transferred to a Mental Health unit of a hospital. To get help with her head trappings.
Then if she felt ready to leave there, it would be right back to jail.
 
Personally, I like her, I think she is a sweet girl. I watched her show "The Simple Life" and living and being with "simple folk" I think she did in someway embrace the less fortunate and still holds on to a piece of that in her heart.
I also think this will teach her something,.... Come on we were all young once, some of us just too smart to get caught!
She still has to do the restricted 40 days and that probably is tough for her, I mean when your used to jet-setting around the world and attending all the events.
I think she will become a better person for it. And maybe even become a generous philanthrapist someday, who knows?
 
Missy. 




ayip -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 1:19:48 AM)

agoodboy.. check out the rest of her posts on the different boards.
you'll see a trend.
The best reaction to one of them was..
                                                                Don't feed the monkey bananas




ayip -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 1:47:15 AM)

I didn't expect any different. In fact she was in longer that I really thought she would be.  I had my buck on under 30 hours.

But let's face it.. 80 hours in a jail.. even if it was in the area set aside from the general population.. one reserved for the more fortunate with fame and glory.. for Paris would have been like an ordinary you or me spending 80 hours in some third world prison camp.
I'm not in any way saying that justified her release .. it didn't. She should have served the time just the same. It was a light sentence all considered. But it put it in a different light when I thought about the lifestyle she's grown up in.. the luxury she's been surrounded by.. that's all she knows.. so jail.. yeah.. more like suddenly being thrown into the pits of hell. Even if she did have it a little plushy in her made for 2 yet single occupancy cell by comparison to what you or I would get. And.. she was served hot dogs on top of everything!! Oh heavens the torment.. the anguish !!

The woman would probably break out in hives by the time she made it beyond the entrance to Wally World.

There's a good question for the person that thought she might have been released because of overcrowding and the fuss was just because of her fame.
How, considering the LA jails are so overcrowded, was it possible for her to have single occupancy in a double occupancy cell.. while in cells in the general population area stuffed beyond capacity?

My personal opinion is somehow I don't think 'her' particular area of LA's finest B&B faces quite the same overcrowding issues the rest of it does.




kittinSol -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 5:07:00 AM)

People do love to hate Hilton, and I suspect it's partly because she's a woman; a rich boy would never be such a matter for happily angry conversations. Nobody would DARE wish openly for a man to be abused, beaten, and raped in jail, but that's what people are saying about her. The lesson we could ALL learn from this is that the justice system is unbalanced and equivocal. I think that's something to get really angry about.

I think it also gives us just cause to choose our media more carefully and to stop feeding the press barons with celebrity fodder. Hilton didn't just build herself up, her image is instrumental in selling tabloids, and who knows how much profit they make out of her...

A lot of the Hilton debate's grounded in self-righteous, moral-majority, offended citizens-indignation.




Level -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 5:12:17 AM)

Paris Hilton may go back to jail
11 minutes ago
 


Paris Hilton is headed for a courtroom showdown Friday that could put her back behind bars, as prosecutors sought to hold sheriff's officials in contempt for releasing her early from jail.

Hilton was ordered to report to court at 9 a.m. and will be brought in a sheriff's vehicle from her Hollywood Hills home, said Superior Court spokesman Allan Parachini.
The frenzy began early Thursday when sheriff's officials released Hilton because of an undisclosed medical condition and sent her home under house arrest. She had been in jail for three days.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070608/ap_on_en_tv/paris_hilton




windchymes -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 6:09:12 AM)

Paris is 26 years old and has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old.  When does she have to grow up, or is she just exempt from the law and everything else that has to do with being a decent human being because she happened to be born wealthy with tall skinny genes and the ability to look so adorable while blowing kisses to the cameras?

Because she's "young", is she exempt from assuming the responsibility of being sober when she gets behind the wheel of a car?  Or does she have to kill somebody before someone steps in and tough-loves her a little?  My kudos go to that judge who stood his ground with his sentencing.




philosophy -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 7:50:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

I'm Ecstatic!

Too bad about the rash, they never should have put you in jail Paris.

You are everything that is good about America.



....ye gods, that has to be either sarcasm or seriously dense irony......if Paris Hilton is everything that is good about America then you're all doomed, doomed i say...........




Mercnbeth -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 7:57:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: philosophy
quote:

ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5
I'm Ecstatic!
Too bad about the rash, they never should have put you in jail Paris.
You are everything that is good about America.

....ye gods, that has to be either sarcasm or seriously dense irony......if Paris Hilton is everything that is good about America then you're all doomed, doomed i say...........


No less an American Icon than Don King agrees;
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The curiously tressed boxing promoter said that while he has never met Hilton, she is "what America is all about." King also said he is looking forward to seeing Paris, giving her a big hug and "telling her I love her." Source: http://www.tmz.com/2007/06/07/king-to-paris-keep-on-keeping-on/ 




philosophy -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 7:58:32 AM)

"No less an American Icon than Don King agrees"

...it's the hair talking, i reckon...........




subfever -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 8:27:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

People do love to hate Hilton, and I suspect it's partly because she's a woman...


And maybe because she's tall, skinny, beautiful, rich, and self-indulgent... many people want to see her "cut down to size."  

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a rich boy would never be such a matter for happily angry conversations. Nobody would DARE wish openly for a man to be abused, beaten, and raped in jail, but that's what people are saying about her.


I recall no similar response to other celebrity DUIs either.

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The lesson we could ALL learn from this is that the justice system is unbalanced and equivocal. I think that's something to get really angry about.


I believe this fact has been clearly evident for a very long time now. It's just that it's being thrown in our faces to such a degree that it can't be ignored at the moment. But when the media circus dies down, this fact will soon be forgotten again by most. 

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I think it also gives us just cause to choose our media more carefully and to stop feeding the press barons with celebrity fodder. Hilton didn't just build herself up, her image is instrumental in selling tabloids, and who knows how much profit they make out of her...


The media surely knows what sells. They'll continue to play us like fiddles, via our emotions, until we wise up... which in my opinion, won't be anytime soon.

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A lot of the Hilton debate's grounded in self-righteous, moral-majority, offended citizens-indignation.


Absolutely, though I don't recall such indignation and self-righteousness during prior celebrity DUIs. So I can only assume that we're seeing it this time due to the way the media is playing it. The media knows Paris is someone that people love to hate, and we're being spoon-fed the very fodder we seek.




juliaoceania -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 8:30:28 AM)

fast reply

I am not a fan of Miss Hilton's. I think she is somewhat trashy, but I have to say that in California we have significant overcrowding of our jails, as a result people guilty of the same exact offense as hers are often sent right home before serving any time at all, they go to check themselves in and are released, or they serve a couple of days (like Hilton) and then are released. I think that if Californians (being one of them I think I have more of a right to state an opinion on our jail system) want people like Hilton to serve out their sentences, well they should pony up the bucks to build larger jails to house them in.

Now I am not for spoiling Hilton anymore than her parents already have, or giving her special treatment, but at the same time I do not think she should be treated worse than ordinary people either, meaning that if the vast majority get released this quickly from jail for the same offenses, then why not her??? There are more important things to worry about in LA county, like jail overcrowding... My only issue with the sheriff is that he did not release her for the obvious reason she should have been released, they just do not have room to babysit her when more dangerous and important criminals could be kept in that cell, what a waste of space.




LadyEllen -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 8:38:46 AM)

OK, this might not be too relevant given that its the UK situation - but get caught DUI here and you lose your licence for 12 months. You lose your licence, youre likely to also lose your job. Lose your job and youre likely to lose your home.

Get caught DUI again whilst youre banned, and the best outcome will be another 12 month ban to run on from the last. You could even (gasp) go to jail for it, and for a lot longer than 45 days at that.

So, Paris got off pretty light by those standards - but she also got off pretty light by local standards too. Lets be clear, this wasnt a first offence, but a second offence whilst under supervision for the first offence! Thats just plain damned stupid, or plain damned arrogance or more possibly a combination of the two.

There's lots of talk that she shouldnt be treated any differently under the law. I disagree, I think they should make an example of her to the maximum possible extent under the law. Not because she's rich, but because it might send a message to others tempted to drive drunk by way of the publicity it would attract. Hopefully it might also result either in her becoming a better role model or being dropped as a role model by millions of "stupid spoiled whore" wannabes.

E




KatyLied -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 8:41:55 AM)

Julia - I like what you've said.  Paris should be treated in the same manner any other person with the same offense would be.  Nothing preferrential in either a positive or negative way.  I just hope she doesn't kill someone with her car while drunk driving.  And I would say that of anyone with DUI issues.




domiguy -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 8:44:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

fast reply

what a waste of space.


I can only assume you are talking about the void between her ears?




selfbnd411 -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 8:46:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
There are more important things to worry about in LA county, like jail overcrowding...


Some people might say that not letting drunk drivers roam free is a something to worry about as well.

The problem with drunk drivers and alcoholics is that they don't think they have a problem.  "I can stop drinking anytime I want to."  "It's OK if I drive drunk, I'm a good driver."  "Drunk drivers are bad, but I only did it once because I had to...It's not like I'm irresponsible."

It's bad enough when the person is telling themselves that.  It's horrible when the justice system is telling them that they aren't a "real" threat to society too.

Edit to add:
I also think we have a prison population problem here too.  I think we coddle these people too much.  Put them in tent cities out in the desert.  Make them pick strawberries and cut lettuce.

It's good enough for Mexicans., but it's not good enough for prisoners?




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