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EvilGeoff -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 12:55:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple
*waves*  hiya Geoff nice to see you around again!


:D
Hi earthy!  I'll stick my head in from  time to time, fire off a pithy comment or three, then retreat back to the shadows of obscurity.  *LOL*

To topic:  Hi kirby, you know you can show in your profile as a "switch".  That covers a variety of styles. :)

YIK,
- Geoff




kirby104 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 3:08:08 PM)

The lifestyle is an extremely intense for me. It is not about casual play (although that can be nice). I am not specifically submissive. I am not specifically dominant. I am definitely not a slave. I was collared to a couple. I never want to be anywhere else whether i have the collar or not. I do not want a myriad of dominants or predators harassing me. I have had a lot of trouble. If I list as a switch, then I must filter out all those who want to claim me or as one brave soul put it, "to explore my sadistic side." Listing as a dominant proved to be the safest way to reside here.




kc692 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 3:33:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHeart

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

I'm trying to figure out if this is a new version of the Nigerian Slave Scam.  How does this go, now?  If you express an interest in purchasing her "beast" is the follow up a request for a "good faith" financial deposit?  Or perhaps she needs your Aussie equivalent to what in the States would be a key document for stealing your identity:  A social security no.  How fun.


Yes, it appears that it is. I checked the profile of the sender and found this: "A one off payment of £25.000 will also be paid through my Attorney to the Lady(ies) who eventually agree to aquire my beast. This is to offset the cost of its food and lodging in the early years.  I recognise that not all lady dominas are wealthy but each does have the right to own a male beast if they truelly want and need to do so for their personal happiness."
 
I guess if I pay a small token as an indication of my sincerity I will be sure to acquire the beast in question - or perhaps a slightly used harbour bridge, sigh
:))
LH




I got that one too and reported it, I hope you did also.  What was so bad was the first email I got told me that she had been talking to me, and I needed to make up my mind that she had no time for fakes and timewasters and that the ball was in my court.   I of course, sent her a wtf? email and THEN I got the first one in the series, which was the same one you got .  Apparently the poor scammer got their order of emails screwed up on me.




kc692 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 3:36:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

I was bombarded by jerks when I listed as submissive. CollarMe should have more selections such as: dominant masochist, submissive top, bottom, etc, At least the person could more easily reveals themselves. The only reason I listed as dominant was that I want to top.


RFL, and you don't get bombarded listed as a dominant.  Who's trying to fool who now.  I just had to ask, because even if you don't fit the "generic" choices available, you don't have what you just wrote here in your profile.




kc692 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 3:37:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

The lifestyle is an extremely intense for me. It is not about casual play (although that can be nice). I am not specifically submissive. I am not specifically dominant. I am definitely not a slave. I was collared to a couple. I never want to be anywhere else whether i have the collar or not. I do not want a myriad of dominants or predators harassing me. I have had a lot of trouble. If I list as a switch, then I must filter out all those who want to claim me or as one brave soul put it, "to explore my sadistic side." Listing as a dominant proved to be the safest way to reside here.


It's also why you confused a lot on this post, especially since you didn't put any of this on your profile.

edited to add:  A LOT of us are serious on here, not just you.




WhiplashSmile -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 3:49:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104
The lifestyle is an extremely intense for me. It is not about casual play (although that can be nice). I am not specifically submissive. I am not specifically dominant. I am definitely not a slave. I was collared to a couple. I never want to be anywhere else whether i have the collar or not. I do not want a myriad of dominants or predators harassing me. I have had a lot of trouble. If I list as a switch, then I must filter out all those who want to claim me or as one brave soul put it, "to explore my sadistic side." Listing as a dominant proved to be the safest way to reside here.


I would say the majority of people on the message boards it's not about casual play, well there's a few here and there.  It's think it ok to list yourself as a dominant female for the reasons you have.  You are not alone!  There are other woman that have listed themselves as Dominant females for the very same reason. 




LadyHeart -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 5:27:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692
I got that one too and reported it, I hope you did also. 


I certainly did report it. It was a disappointingly poor scam, and deserved reporting for that alone! It said it was coming from Hobart, Australia, but then the body of the message said they were Canadian citizens currently domiciled stateside, but quoted the money in pounds sterling. They need some geography and currency lessons.
:))
LH




Daughtry -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 5:39:43 PM)

Ok Daughtry... You can do this.  You can give a fuck about a drama queen in the midst of a pity party.  You can do it...

Fuck...

I still don't care.




kc692 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 6:11:54 PM)

H,mmmmm, more than one user nick apparently, I believe mine came from Georgia.  Im going to go look now.




kirby104 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 7:40:22 PM)

POINT: THE SAFEST WAY TO RESIDE HERE IS TO LIST AS DOMINANT

I swear. Some people!




kirby104 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 7:43:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

I was bombarded by jerks when I listed as submissive. CollarMe should have more selections such as: dominant masochist, submissive top, bottom, etc, At least the person could more easily reveals themselves. The only reason I listed as dominant was that I want to top.
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Well now, I shall add that to my profile. Thanks!




kc692 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 10:10:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

POINT: THE SAFEST WAY TO RESIDE HERE IS TO LIST AS DOMINANT

I swear. Some people!


Yes, I'm "some people".  Your point???




WhiplashSmile -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/10/2007 10:22:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

I was bombarded by jerks when I listed as submissive. CollarMe should have more selections such as: dominant masochist, submissive top, bottom, etc, At least the person could more easily reveals themselves. The only reason I listed as dominant was that I want to top.
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Well now, I shall add that to my profile. Thanks!


I'm Dom that's a bit of a masochist.  There are times when I wished there were subtitles under Dominant to express certain things.   I don't see anything wrong with stating on your profile that you enjoy to be the top in S&M play, it's who you are after all.




stella40 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/11/2007 6:07:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

So, i am a drama queen, but I want to be pleasing. I never felt pleasing.
I want to learn to serve correctly. Should I be shamed that I don't know how to serve? I though that if I was submissive, it would be right. I was terribly wrong.
Does my lack of knowledge negate my submissiveness?

Is there any possible way to learn or am I fooling myself?


Does your lack of knowledge negate your submissiveness? No it doesn't. I've been in and out of BDSM for 22 years and there's still a lot of things I still don't know, perhaps among them things I should know but don't, but there are certain things I do know.

Just because you're a submissive doesn't mean to say you can please any and every Dominant. You can't. I know, I can't. Years back I tried, it didn't work out, I brought disappointment and let Doms down. And there's been a couple of Dommes I really really badly wanted to submit to, but I couldn't, the mroe I tried the more ridiculous it became.

Submission is a bit like toothpaste. It doesn't all come out at once, and just as you have to keep gently squeezing the tube to get a smooth flow of toothpaste I find you also have to work on your submission gradually, bit by bit.

From what I can gather you have a lack of experience and feel that there's a correct way to serve. There is a correct way to serve but it doesn't come from a book and can't be learned at a school (if this were true almost every Dom and submissive would be happy and in a relationship). The only correct way is by being yourself, learning your mistakes and serving the right Dom. You cannot learn without making mistakes.

I don't know and I'm only guessing, but it appears you went that little bit further than you were able and overstretched yourself in your submission (basically someone squeezed the toothpaste tube too hard and it came out in a horrible blob).

Okay, so you made a mistake and you let your Doms down... so what? I've made mistakes, we've all made mistakes, and we've all let someone down at some point. And I tell you, if anyone can make a big fat boo boo of a mistake, it's me.

If BDSM was all or nothing a lot of people wouldn't be here, I would be one of them. But it isn't.

It's therefore up to you to decide whether you want to whip yourself mercilessly in the purgatory of your own mind or to say 'to hell with it, I'm only human' and move on.




stella40 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/11/2007 6:10:50 AM)

Whoops! Bad timing on my part. It pays to read the whole thread. Excuse me while I go stick my head in a bucket of cold water.




Emperor1956 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/11/2007 10:06:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

I'm trying to figure out if this is a new version of the Nigerian Slave Scam.  How does this go, now?  If you express an interest in purchasing her "beast" is the follow up a request for a "good faith" financial deposit?  Or perhaps she needs your Aussie equivalent to what in the States would be a key document for stealing your identity:  A social security no.  How fun.



Yes, it appears that it is. I checked the profile of the sender and found this: "A one off payment of £25.000 will also be paid through my Attorney to the Lady(ies) who eventually agree to aquire my beast. This is to offset the cost of its food and lodging in the early years.  I recognise that not all lady dominas are wealthy but each does have the right to own a male beast if they truelly want and need to do so for their personal happiness."
 
I guess if I pay a small token as an indication of my sincerity I will be sure to acquire the beast in question - or perhaps a slightly used harbour bridge, sigh
:))
LH



Damn, I'm good.  By all means, LH, do NOT, I repeat, do NOT send money to that charlatan.

Now, I, on the otherhand, have this large opera house in Sydney that I need to unload...you interested *GRIN*

E.




kirby104 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/11/2007 11:50:06 AM)

I felt that no one wanted to talk and someone "went away." So I "went away", and I lost myself. I offer profuse apology.




AquaticSub -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/11/2007 11:52:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kirby104

POINT: THE SAFEST WAY TO RESIDE HERE IS TO LIST AS DOMINANT

I swear. Some people!


So... exactly what is the danger?

"OH NO! I've been overwhelmed e-mail and I can't reach the delete key"?




Celeste43 -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/11/2007 11:57:27 AM)

Relationships are a two way street. You were despairingly frightened and unable to see clearly. I doubt that you were smiling and laughing while in this state. So what did these two wonderful people do while you were in such turmoil? Did they try to talk to you, did they listen to you, did they pay any attention to your emotional distress or did they ignore you and your needs?

The one with the rights also has the responsibilities. In this case taking care of the property seems to be a responsibility they couldn't handle.

If the relationship had truly been this wonderful, if these people were truly this fantastic, they would have noticed your troubles long before. By refusing to allot blame to all parties, you allow yourself to not blame yourself for picking selfish people, for ignoring red flags in the relationship and excuse yourself from learning from this for the future.  Instead by blaming your self excessively you will be just as overwhelmed next time because you will again pick someone who isn't right for you?

I'm sure you have good and sufficient reasons to self sabotage relationships and to idealize people instead of looking at them, and yourself, realistically. No doubt these reasons stem from family of origin. Get help looking at your relationship models and don't repeat these mistakes.

Or continue to flagellate and do. Your choice and remember, not choosing is itself a choice.




WhiplashSmile -> RE: i deserve scorn (6/11/2007 12:23:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: kirby104

POINT: THE SAFEST WAY TO RESIDE HERE IS TO LIST AS DOMINANT

I swear. Some people!


So... exactly what is the danger?

"OH NO! I've been overwhelmed e-mail and I can't reach the delete key"?


Aquatic, I believe being not understood/accepted as a submissive that likes to top.  I've had the same crap when even I talk about being Maso at times.  OH my what's this a Dom that will bottom in S&M.. And hearing you're a switch or a submissive and not a Dom.   There are some really ignorant asses on the site!  I'm specifically talking about people that are not on the Messge Boards... 

In her case I beleive she resorted to listing herself as a Dominant to make it clear she enjoys topping...   without all the Dangers of having people fucking give her a hard time.  Again, there are some really ignorant asses on the site, that go around giving people a hard time over shit.  




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