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marieToo -> RE: betrayal (6/11/2007 8:38:53 PM)

This is enough to make me just wanna fuck a piece of plastic for the rest of my life.




Sinergy -> RE: betrayal (6/11/2007 10:40:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EvilGeoff

So you would rather be a party to the lying, cheating, de-frauding of your honest customers?  Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.



Incorrect, EvilGeoff.

We are not customers, unless you have sent them a check, gotten a receipt, and have agreed to their TOS in a legal document.

What we are are generally anonymous posters on a web site's message board.  They have our IP addresses, and with the time stamp, they could track us down via router tags and such, but odds are fairly small they will have any interest in doing so unless the person truly screws up.

Moderator 11 is the referree.  It is their sandbox, all of us either learn to play nice or Mod 11 will ModSlap us into oblivion.

Sinergy




ModeratorOne -> RE: betrayal (6/12/2007 1:07:45 AM)

We understand that you may be concerned about possible improper or illegal conduct relating to one or more persons who may have created an account on this public website.  It is vital to understand that we are not in a position to ascertain if claims made about a given person are accurate and truthful or if they are misleading, exaggerated, or otherwise designed to injure the reputation of or harm the person in question.  For this reason, if you become aware of conduct which you believe to be illegal, you should consider contacting your local law enforcement agency.  They will be in a position to interview you and take your statement, gather evidence, interview relevant witnesses, issue subpoenas, and otherwise investigate your claims in an impartial manner.  For our part, we fully with cooperate such investigations in accordance with applicable U.S. law. 

We also strongly encourage you to use our fully automated reporting system to report inappropriate conduct.  To report a user, just click on the "Report" button on their profile.  If you are reporting a message sent to you, just click on the "Report" button you see while reading the message.  When a pre-determined number of users have submitted reports, the system will automatically take action relevant to the reported account. 

ModOne




EvilGeoff -> RE: betrayal (6/12/2007 11:14:45 AM)

Thanks for the reply, it's good to know that there is a system in place to report those kind of activities, and if the conduct is ongoing that there is some way of dealing with it.  As I commented earlier to the OP:

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But "outting" him isn't going to change his behavior.  At best, for a few days or weeks ( as long as this thread stays on page 1) he might not have any luck with the handful of subs who actually bother to read the forums, and then find THIS thread (or whatever thread you actually name Do-MeDom in...).

At worst, he changes his nick, creates a new profile, and tomorrow it's business as usual.


It's a frustrating position to be in.  Clearly, Collarme can't "get in the middle" of personal relationship issues. They can't kick and ban everyone that gets complained about.  If that were the case, who knows, I might've been kicked and banned already.  But neither can Collarme do nothing if a user has a pattern of behavior that is disrupting the normal ebb and flow of the other users.  Collarme has limited resources, and simply can not devote the time and effort needed to be everywhere, all the time, to protect the sheep from the wolves.  But at least we now know that the wolves can be inconvenienced to some degree from this side, and how to go about doing that within the system that is in place.

I fully agree that the victim in such cases should report the incident(s) to the police if they cross the line from annoying/embarassing to criminal.  That's how John Edward Robinson (slavemaster) was finally caught and brought to justice. A victim of his abuse finally called the police, and a serial killer's web of deceit was unravelled and he was hammered.

Please understand that I am not upset or angry with Collarme or any of the moderators.  I think that it would have been more helpful to get the reporting process explained a bit earlier in the discussion, but hey, we finally got where we were going.  As a mail list owner and moderator, Lord knows I've been less than crystal clear in how to deal with issues on my lists a time or three.

Thank you, 11 and 1, for explaining Collarme's position, and how to go about dealing with less than stellar people using the service.
- Geoff




EvilGeoff -> RE: betrayal (6/12/2007 11:31:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Incorrect, EvilGeoff.

We are not customers, unless you have sent them a check, gotten a receipt, and have agreed to their TOS in a legal document.


Hi Sinergy,

True enough.  A more proper word choice would have been "patron" as defined by Merriam-Webster, definition 3: one who buys the goods or uses the services offered especially by an establishment.  Tis okay, changing the word from customer to patron doesn't change the intent or meaning of my issue.

My complaint was that it seemed grossly unfair for a Mod to bitchslap someone for complaining and identifying someone engaged in less than ethical conduct, and doing nothing to said troll.  Mod 1 was kind enough to explain that there is a process to report the trolls and that Collarme will initiate what action it can, if there is sufficient cause to warrant it.

Like my grandfather used to tell me:

If one man call me an ass, he has a problem with me.
If two men call me an ass, it's a coincidence.
If three men call me an ass, I might just need a feed bag and a saddle...
 
And so it goes... (keeping the feedbag and saddle nearby... just in case!)

YIK,
- Geoff




smellycat -> RE: betrayal (6/15/2007 7:15:36 PM)

Something is fishy here ( i should know because it isn't in my bowl)





sweetnurseBBW -> RE: betrayal (6/15/2007 9:01:08 PM)

I was betrayed in the past and I feel for you. Learn from this and move on. Make sure the allegations are true. Get yourself checked out by a doc and always be safe in the future. Good luck to you.




NorthernGent -> RE: betrayal (6/16/2007 3:08:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mygoldilocks

I just received a shocking email from the full-time, long-term "vanilla" girlfriend of a dominant I met on Collarme.  She forwarded all of the emails I'd ever sent to him along with a multitude of others from over a dozen other women, who, like me, believed we were his only One.  She warned all of us that he may have sexually transmitted diseases and urged us to see our doctors.  I'm still reeling from the revelation that he is using dozens women around the world and lying to each of us, and using Collarme.com to rope new ones in.  I will never see him again, but I wonder what others think about the situation and whether or not the dom should be outed.  Apparently, he is a serial user who does not use safe sex practices with all of his "subs".  Thank you in advance for any wisdom shared.


No because it's the word of a girlfriend. Women have been known to resort to some pretty evil shit when they don't get their own way.

Why is she the long term girlfriend of a bloke with STDs and at least 12 women on the go. Let's say you were number 12, don't you think she would have sacked him somewhere between number 1 and number 11?

Maybe she's right, maybe she's wrong, but I reckon you need some evidence before taking this "apparent" case any further.




NorthernGent -> RE: betrayal (6/16/2007 3:35:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

This is enough to make me just wanna fuck a piece of plastic for the rest of my life.



Cutting off your nose to spite your face, or what?




mygoldilocks -> i'm done (6/18/2007 5:46:44 PM)

i'm done




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