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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I have given this alot of thought. I think I am a leader, not perfect, but a leader. A true leader thinks of the well being of those he leads before his own.

Now before I go on with my plan, you just don't up and believe I am a leader because I said so do you ? That would be unwise. But you see, I see the world very differently. If I were a King and there was a battle, the immediate families of each and every soldier who died for me would recieve a hug, and a personal apology to his Widow and each of his children. The Widow would then be assured of a decent stipend for life.

"Your Man died for me, and I do not take that lightly, and I failed him. He is dead and I am alive. I cannot live that down".And I can't. My plans should be so right that if executed correctly none of my followers die. Anyone who has true allegiance to the crown, well the crown owes the same back. Every one of my followers' lives are just as important as my own, to me. I realize that in a correctly run society my life may be more important to them. They are asked to die for me, but I am not asked to die for them. A true leader treats those people right, at any cost.

Now that it is established that I MIGHT be a leader, let's get down to business.

In the present we cannot overcome the might of the oppressors with physical or military force. It would be foolish to try. Now people say get out and vote, but there is a large untapped resouce when it comes to votes, non-voters. I don't vote because there is nobody to vote for. And don't gimme that issues and shit, if we can't eventually get a good President in this country, all is lost.

So, that baby step, which way ? That first step.

The plan, as it shapes slowly in my mind, and if you think it's easy, give it a try. The first step is a webpage. I can write one pretty easily. But later I would like to get some forum software. Like here, maybe an older version without all the bells and whistles. Perhaps an older version of discus which LMU uses.

This would be an ad hoc site, no bunch of other shit, and in no way would I want to take all the political traffic from this site. This is a pretty good sounding board, but a few of us should get serious about some action before it is really really too late.

And there is one thing to remember, we cannot beat the assholes from the outside, so there is one alternative.

I think by sharing info and acting accordingly we have alot better shot at it. Thinking out our actions. Remove the issues they planted in your mind and let's unify. Unitedf we can stand, but divided we have already fallen. It is time to get up. Concentrate the resources available to the areas and issues with the best odds of winning.

Anybody with me here ?

There is one thing, one last thing about a true leader. He will not give up on what looks like a hopeless situation. He will strive to find a way to overcome.

I rest my case.

T

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

so, let me get this right...you are going to make a web page with some basic cforum software, this will cause non-voters to vote, and they will vote for a "good" president while ignoring issues...yup sounds mighty reasonable to me

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

Edit: As an interesting observation, dawntreader, according to your Dao, Hitler came within inches of fitting the description of the second best kind of leader there is as a statesman, and the best kind for some others. Perhaps there are other qualities to a leader and his/her/its vision that should be considered?

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ORIGINAL: dawntreader

Hitler actually fit into the following 4 [...]  He was a brilliant leader as well as being a twisted and sick individual as history has shown. This aside, people are ultimately responsible for who they follow - we always have a choice, even if it is death~

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

And I doubt the Terminator has candidacy in mind. I wouldn't have, I think.