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AAkasha -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/7/2005 9:50:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dommemagnet

Wow! I suppose I started all this so should jump back in the pot now that it's boiling. It would appear that my lack of understanding of this particular kink know's no bounds. For my purposes I suppose if I were inclined to send money to anyone with no expectation of any return other than the loss of the power associated with the money, I would choose a worthy charity. No, I don't believe a money Domme qualifies as one. At least I couldn't find it as a deduction while doing last years taxes.

I wasn't trying to disrespect another's kink. There are a million ways to enjoy BDSM most of which from a submissives perspective are quite exciting, some however are of little or no interest to me personally. That doesn't mean I'm intolerant of them simply they either do not push my buttons or maybe I'm just too thick to understand them. LOL.

I'll be the first to admit this isn't a vanilla group here. Better have just a modicum of understanding.

Some of these posts have enlightened me as to the practice and psychology behind it. For that, I'm grateful.



Saying that financial slaves could send money to charity instead is like saying pain sluts could just drop a brick on their foot if their kink was simply pain.

The men that get off on sending money to women often have a fetish for being exploited. Others have a fetish for being blackmailed. It's not a stretch to think some men are just wired that way, while others might have been exploited by a pretty girl in grade school (for his lunch money, let's say) and have carried that image in their head as a fantasy -- a lot of fetishes start out that way.

He can't send his money to random sources, because what he needs is the femdom to verbally or by email exploit/blackmail him. In that sense, the femdom does have to posses an actual talent for it -- know what to say, how far to push that boundary, and how to push his buttons. The problem is, how do you find an ethical femdom to do that? Then, how do you prevent others from just putting up a site and demanding to be sent money? You don't. But I think the "money slaves" know what they are looking for.

I'm sure this fetish, like many others, existed way before the Internet. Unfortunately, like in a lot of areas, the Internet now allows people to misuse it. Ironically, the subs that have a fetish for being exploited are actually being expolited -- but not in the *way* they want to be.

Akasha





GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/7/2005 1:20:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

[Absolutely not. All I'm doing is telling them to protect themselves from what they fear the most. Take the money out of the equation. Simple as that.

The whole money thing is just an evaluation. I really don't even think about the tangible things money brings. For me, money only represents freedom;The more money you have the more free you become. When somebody takes away your money, you loose freedom. Anyone who tells you different, doesn't have any money. Now repeat that ten times. HAR!



Aha! Money = freedom! Yes, it certainly does. And I don't think I have seen anybody who has said anything different. But you have already said you are probably not as submissive as some others. So it would make sense that you would find it particularly offensive that any Lady would handle your assets for you. you aren't ready to give up that much freedom.
Why do the boys fear this the most? What is it about this hard limit when it comes to a commitment for a D/s or M/s relationship? I am not going to control or oversee the financial aspects until a boy has signed a contract and is living with Me. And he has plenty of time to figure that out before W/we get to that point. But most of them shut themsleves off the moment they realize that is part of the package. All of you seem willing to offer your bodies, your minds, and even your hearts, but *not* your wallets. Makes *Me* wonder!
I don't agree with the (apparently) many ladies on here who send emails demanding
money or even have it right in their profiles. If you get an email demanding it, ignore it. If you see a profile with money demands in it, move past it.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessMayhem1

Could it be the ultimate taboo, I wonder..where money has always represented power and control within the male dominion, and over womyn in general for generations..hmmm...


Yup! I think that says it in a nutshell! Financial Domination is part of My power exchange. An important part of it. As long as you control your money, you maintain certain controls in the relationship. No ifs, ands or buts about it. And that isn't going to work with Me.
I am not going to demand money from a boy via email or paypal. But if you want to explore a r/t relationship with Me, it is going to be part of the equation.
Not taking issue with your OP, dommemagnet. This issue has been debated endlessly on these boards. And it always ends up going off on a tangent of how this is terrible, and W/we need to do something about it, and all the poor boys, and all the evil money dommes!
Yes, there are submissives (newbies and some not so new) who think this is great. And that is all the commitment some of them want. There are also those who fall into the trap, send fifty bucks to someone, and then have buyer's remorse (because what did they buy, after all?) so they begin to complain. And as long as there are suckers, (or the few that really get off on this kink) there will be people out there ready, willing and able to take advantage. It is up to the individual whether or not they choose to buy into it.
All the filters in the world are not going to stop it. And for those of you have have exchanged a couple of emails, and then been told how much it will cost to continue, so be it it! It's over!
I have alot of beginnings that are over in two emails. So what? And I'm not going to say that every boy who writes to Me is a "do me" boy. Most of them are! But I'm not going to throw out the baby with the bathwater!




Tristan -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/7/2005 4:23:07 PM)

OK, so we've established that finacial domination is a legitimate kink. So what do you do when the relationship is over? Do you give the money back? Do you set up a retirement fund? How do you make sure that your submissive leaves the relationship is at least as good of a situation as he or she entered?




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/7/2005 5:18:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tristan

OK, so we've established that finacial domination is a legitimate kink. So what do you do when the relationship is over? Do you give the money back? Do you set up a retirement fund? How do you make sure that your submissive leaves the relationship is at least as good of a situation as he or she entered?


How do you do it when you are in a vanilla marriage? Pre-nup = contract.
First of all, I am not going into something with the idea that it is going to be over. But, in all reality, it may well be, at some point.
Yes, there are financial considerations worked out in contract, and I will also usually put a boy on an allowance for approved weekly expenditures. I also don't touch current retirement plans, and I leave payroll deductions in place. But I don't consider it My job to make sure that someone is equivalent to or better off than when he first comes into the relationship. I am not a spending fool. I like to be comfortable. Others may not be as savvy. If W/e start with a one year contract, financial considerations are set up based on that.
But I am not a "this is your share of the rent and utilities" Domina. I will exercise the control, and I am not half-way about it. So if you can't live without your boat, and your expensive cologne, don't come knocking at My door. Because I am the one who permits. I am not here to maintain your lifestyle. Sorry 'bout that.
Some boys leave with less, and some boys (surprise, surprise!) leave with more than they started with. And no, I do not have a revolving door, and I have no intention of installing one. If you want to tear up O/our contract, don't let the door hit you in the ass. If you don't like the contract, don't sign it in the first place.
BTW, I do not consider this sort of financial domination to be part of the kink. I consider it to be part of your submission.




UtopianRanger -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/7/2005 7:47:14 PM)


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Aha! Money = freedom! Yes, it certainly does. And I don't think I have seen anybody who has said anything different. But you have already said you are probably not as submissive as some others. So it would make sense that you would find it particularly offensive that any Lady would handle your assets for you. you aren't ready to give up that much freedom.


Goddess....I just know your trying to get me in trouble! The reference I made in that regard should be interpreted to be more singular, than plural. And that's based on my own interpretation ;}

Now, that's not to say that I'm above the type of surrender you speak of. But I'd feel alot better about it if she was a partner with Bear Stearns ;} I know I like both, but I've always done better when I pick brains over physical beauty. I know you understand.




- The Ranger




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/7/2005 10:11:03 PM)

UtopianRanger, you are right. you did express that as a more individual concept. However...*W*...I would venture to say that you managed to put into written word what most boys don't even manage to put into thought. It is a gut feeling those of the male pursuasion have. Their money is their last link to freedom. As long as they control their personal finances, their paycheck, they still control an important part of their life.




Tristan -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/8/2005 4:17:34 AM)

I think the reason this topic gets so much attention is the potential for abuse. Based on some of the responses in this and other posts, my thought is that there are two things happening.

First, it seems that many money dommes are at least using some coercion demanding money in order to have or continue a relationship. From what I've read about the surplus of male submissives, it’s not hard to imagine why this type of coercion can be very effective.

Second, my guess is that most dommes are not doing anything to make sure that their partner is in the position to leave the relationship in at least as good (emotionally, physically, and financially) position as they started. Maybe they do not see this as their responsibility, but to take control of a person’s life and not do everything you can to assure that he or she will be in at least as good of a position when leaving the relationship as when he or she entered is at least boarding on abuse.

I think most people who respond negatively to money dommes are concerned about the potential for abuse. I don't think any of us are hearing money dommes discussing their responsibilities. Everyone uses the terms safe, sane, and consensual to justify their actions in the lifestyle. I agree that consensual is important, but it is equally important to make sure that your partner is better off with you than without you especially if the relationship comes to an end. To be in control of someone’s life without thinking of what’s in their best interest at best boarders on abuse. This is not a relationship where both people are in control making it that much more important that the person in control not do anything directly or indirectly to harm his or her parter.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/8/2005 4:22:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger
Now, that's not to say that I'm above the type of surrender you speak of. But I'd feel alot better about it if she was a partner with Bear Stearns ;}


Or if her accountant was ;)

To be quite honest, I don't feel like I need that much control over my partner. But then, this is a personal thing. I can most definitely balance a checkbook, make financial decisions but it's not my specialty. So why would I want to jeopardize someone else's financial stability with my lack of expertise in money management?

In the type of relationship dynamic that I'm looking for, we have separate checking accounts and we contribute equally to life expenses. If we wish to make investments together, then we work out the arrangements.

I respect other perspectives on this topic. But I personally would not feel more dominant if my partner handed over his paycheck. I would want him to have financial freedom and show me that he will make responsible decisions out of respect for our union.

- LA




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/8/2005 1:01:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tristan

I think the reason this topic gets so much attention is the potential for abuse. Based on some of the responses in this and other posts, my thought is that there are two things happening.

First, it seems that many money dommes are at least using some coercion demanding money in order to have or continue a relationship. From what I've read about the surplus of male submissives, it’s not hard to imagine why this type of coercion can be very effective.

Second, my guess is that most dommes are not doing anything to make sure that their partner is in the position to leave the relationship in at least as good (emotionally, physically, and financially) position as they started. Maybe they do not see this as their responsibility, but to take control of a person’s life and not do everything you can to assure that he or she will be in at least as good of a position when leaving the relationship as when he or she entered is at least boarding on abuse.

I think most people who respond negatively to money dommes are concerned about the potential for abuse. I don't think any of us are hearing money dommes discussing their responsibilities. Everyone uses the terms safe, sane, and consensual to justify their actions in the lifestyle. I agree that consensual is important, but it is equally important to make sure that your partner is better off with you than without you especially if the relationship comes to an end. To be in control of someone’s life without thinking of what’s in their best interest at best boarders on abuse. This is not a relationship where both people are in control making it that much more important that the person in control not do anything directly or indirectly to harm his or her parter.


I absolutely agree with you, Tristan. And I take My responsibilities as a FemDom in the M/s relationship very seriously. The psychological, physical and emotional well being are very important, but the financial aspect also is part of My dynamic.
And the potential for abuse is definitely there. I have heard some real horror stories in My day. Even recently. This is why it is important to take some time to get to know somebody.
But I still maintain that, for My dynamic, it is not My responsibility to maintain a boy's lifestyle. he makes a choice that he wants something different, and perhaps he wants that something different with Me. If a boy decides he wants the latest and most expensive car, and then that car blows up, or he decides he really shouldn't have spent that money for a year, while he was going through his mid-life crisis, the dealer is not going to give him back his money back because he changed his mind. Probably not the best parallel I could draw, but the best I can do for the moment.
A lot of things are taken into consideration in a contract, and the financial aspects are a very important part of that. Ya just can't have your cake and eat it too.

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I respect other perspectives on this topic. But I personally would not feel more dominant if my partner handed over his paycheck. I would want him to have financial freedom and show me that he will make responsible decisions out of respect for our union.

- LA


I realize that LA looks for a different dynamic, and I also respect that.
I would have to say that having a submissive or slave boy hand over his paycheck does not make Me feel more Dominant, but it does make the boy feel more submissive. I know who I am. This is another tool to ensure he learns his place in the relationship, and who he is or thinks he wants to be. That is an important part of My dynamic. And part of a boy's value is his income. I seek slave boys. I am not looking for a casual relationship. It is never My intention to leave a boy destitute, or blow through all of his hard earned savings. But, admittedly, there are some (okay, many) who have that agenda. I don't consider them to be lifestyle Dominas.
It is interesting to Me that there is a thread going on right now in "off topic", I believe, where a sub girl is upset because her mother found about her lifestyle and has taken control of her because she is still living at home and going to college. Now I don't know if this girl also works and contributes to the household, but I am a bit old-fashiond when it comes to these things. Whether she works part time or not, she is living under her mother's roof, and her mother has the right to make the rules. This girl wants to see her Dom and keep her own schedule, and continue to let her mother support her with no input into her personal lifestyle. This could be akin to the boys who want to still go out with their friends on Friday night, and have a "fuck buddy" as was nicely put by ShiftedJewel.
I view this as a very similar situation. She may not be choosing her living arrangement at this moment in time, but she does need to respect her position in the household and respect her mother or figure out another way to get what she wants. This is a simple financial issue. She is under her mother's thumb.
If a boy chooses this lifestyle, then he has to realize that he is choosing. If he can find a Mistress who allows him to maintain those controls, that is great for him.
I do deal with this issue every single day. The boys all want what they want, and they don't think they should ever have to pay for it. They say they want to be slaves, they want to be "owned" but they only want to be owned so much. That does not make a boy a slave, in My mind.
I will give you a quick, from real life, example. I had a boy who came to Me and he had a car payment, a loan payment, a credit card payment, auto insurance and school tuition. This did not leave a whole lot left over from his paycheck. A few days after he moved in a family member died. I permitted him to use his credit card (raising the balance even more) to get a plane ticket and rent a car so he could go to the funeral.
Now I was taking his paycheck, and I paid all his bills, as well as all the household bills with the incomes (Mine too!). I have a car payment and insurance every 6 months. So he had significantly more bills than I did. he was a good boy, so the finances were not a major concern to Me. But the control of that paycheck was a part of his submission. he couldn't handle it. Never once was a payment late, and in fact, his full tuition for the next semester was paid just a few days before he asked for release. This boy had a serious control issue concerning his money. It was his, and he wasn't giving a single thought to the house payment, utilities, groceries, et al. He had to have control of his paycheck and his money. he had signed a contract, but he broke it. he tried to re-negotiate, but this is a non-negotiable item for Me. In over a year, he has not been able to find a new Domina. he still writes to Me and says he wishes to serve, and if I ever need anything, yada, yada...
So W/we all must be disciminating, and make the best decisions W/we can.
Be careful what you say you want, and realize all it entails, because you just may get it!
I am not expressing myself very well, this morning. Sorry 'bout that.




GoddessSasha -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 6:27:23 AM)

I see how this topic has been discussed on this forum ad infinitum as well as how some profiles contain veiled and not so veiled reference to "whores" as a way of referring to anyone who demands money for services. Having had experience of financial domination within the context of other types of service I thought My experience might be useful. I dont currently meet subs in r/l for one reason only that I had an experience of being physically attacked by one who clearly was not what he seemed. Luckily I defended Myself and he was left with a very large black eye, a thick lip and a large credit card bill for room service in the hotel (I ordered some very nice food and drink, wrapped it in napkins and gave it to street people in London)

Since then I have been working (yes I have a job) as a telephone chatline operator. If a sub requests a telephone call with Me then I expect payment for that, I make that clear it is My job and I dont work for nothing. Having said that I have communicated on the phone with subs who interest Me purely and simply because they have given Me reason to want to do so rather than just begging. Some see My work as a form of prostitution, so be it, I have no problem with others judging Me that is their perogative. Indeed even the abusive emails and messages I receive only serve to amuse Me slightly, as the person sending them is losing out on the prospect of a genuinely good friend. The only judgment that matters to Me is My own, and as far as kinks go, I find several difficult to understand, that does not mean I would condemn them it just means I would either find out more about them or make it clear I would not participate. Due to that very belief I have discovered a penchant for Nannying/babysitting which amazes Me but makes Me smile at how much enjoyment it brings both to Myself and My charge.

As far as tribute goes, I have a link on My profile to a charity and information regarding amazon gift certificates as I am studying at college. If a sub wishes to send Me a gift I have no problem with that whatsoever but certainly not before we have communicated for some time.

Ive had two experiences with "moneyslaves" "financial subs" whatever they wish to call themselves. I have also communicated with those whos kink is blackmail. One moneyslave took offence at the fact that I wouldnt "demand" that he send Me all or more than he earned in a month less his living expenses, his idea of giving something in return was to masturbate for Me on webcam - the phrase "seen one seen them all" comes to mind. I made an effort to engage him in some other communication but it seemed he was an all or nothing type and I was not prepared to go for all so he cut off the communication. Yes he could go to a pro-domme and spend all his money but that wasnt his kink he actually craved having his money demanded from him by a greedy woman.

I guess My point is that whatever our individual kinks there will always be someone who doesnt share them so will feel the need to stick their nose in and complain. However, I do think the number of unsolicited one line messages we have all experienced show that not everyone actually thinks before they type around here and as such those of us who do deserve a modicum of respect.

Sorry if I seem to be rambling here but I felt it important enough for this to be My first post, hoping it will be accepted in the way it was intended just as a perspective and nothing more. It seems this subject above all others is often greeted with hysteria albeit well founded when worrying about the abuse aspect but there are other subjects that could be as well discussed.

I hope all Y/your experiences are happy ones and I wish Y/you all well on Yyour journeys

Love and Light
Sasha




GoddessSasha -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 6:30:15 AM)

OOOPS forgot to add
I am not against buying gifts for subs either, those who become what I would class as friends are treated as such. I enjoy giving gifts to friends and will continue to do so regardless of whether that makes me a pimp whore or any other label Im given
*smiles*

Hugs
Sasha




onceburned -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 8:57:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
I would have to say that having a submissive or slave boy hand over his paycheck does not make Me feel more Dominant, but it does make the boy feel more submissive.


I do not doubt this. Guys, perhaps more than women, draw part of their self-esteem from the work they do and the money (power) they bring home. Giving up control over their money is not only a loss of power but also a partial loss of self-esteem.

Its a major point of departure between fantasy and reality - as the example mentioned by GoddessDustyGold illustrated. Its easy to say you want something, quite another thing to live with your choices.

It is a little hard for me to relate to the idea of 'money slave'. I am thinking that 'money slave' has more to do with the fantasy of exploitation. Yes, I could see how some guys could have it as a fetish... but guys like to control their fetish too, indulging in it whenever they feel like it and only when they feel like it - and only to the extent that they feel like it.

The fetish of 'money slave' seems a far cry from the reality of living within the framework of being a slave. Is there a risk that an unscrupulous woman could abuse their position as a dominant? Sure - but that risk goes with the territory and applies to male doms as well. A sub or slave has to think carefully about what they are choosing - after all, they are responsible for their own choices.




LadyKim -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 9:00:02 AM)

First and foremost, I want to express that I am NOT a financial Domme.

With that being said, there is a percentage of the submissive population that enjoy the challenges associated with financial slavery. Over the years, I met over a handful (probably 20 - 25) submissive males that have wanted to enter into a financial slavery relationship with me. As a general rule these are men who are work-a-holics that want to be pushed to work harder. They spend a great deal of time at the office, and want to be able to associate their work with service to a Domina. Usually, the subs who want to enter into financial slavery relationships do not have any other type of relationship (vanilla romantic or otherwise) and little time to enter into one. Because they enjoy throwing themselves into their work and earning money, they view surrendering the money they earn as their service and submission.

As I said, I am not interested in financial domination (I can earn my own money..... I want to pull the reactions from the sub....... and a piece of paper with green ink on it just doesn't moan or jerk enough for me. LOL!!!). However, I do understand that there are some people out there that finds this meets a need. Where some subs want to be used sexually, for service, or enjoy following strict protocols........ the subs interested in financial slavery see it as their form of service, their protocol, and their surrendering to being used.

One thing about this lifestyle that has always rung true. There are as many different ways to participate in this lifestyle as there are people involved in it. Just because it isn't 'your thing' doesn't make it wrong. It just means it doesn't do it for you. Something you may enjoy may seem off to someone else........and probably does.

Have a great day, and look forward to seeing what others post on this topic.

MzKim




GoddessSasha -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 9:14:48 AM)

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I want to pull the reactions from the sub....... and a piece of paper with green ink on it just doesn't moan or jerk enough for me. LOL!!!). However, I do understand that there are some people out there that finds this meets a need. Where some subs want to be used sexually, for service, or enjoy following strict protocols........ the subs interested in financial slavery see it as their form of service, their protocol, and their surrendering to being used.


LOL LadyKim I can relate to that totally in fact I once had a sub sitting at work all day with a hundred dollar bill wrapped around his ....... is that green? Im in the UK so I havent a clue lol oh dear I hope the ink comes off quicker than I allowed him to[:D]

Sasha




silhouette -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 9:45:39 AM)

Doesn’t anyone here feel that a Domme should herself be accomplished, smart, and successful in her own life before she can even try to control another’s? If some never accomplished anything welfare queen riding the net pretending to be a Domme, trolling for suckers manages to convince some stupid bastard (stupid is a very weak word for what I am thinking) that he should send her his hard earned cash, personally who cares. He is stupid and she is a looser, and I am sure life bears this fact out well. The real question is why do the rest of us have to put up with their continual con games and nonsense? Like everyone else here, women have emailed me, tried to get money, begged for online store purchases, and asked for cash. Well, I laughed, and sent them to “seedy bars dressed skimpy in bad sections of town to meet.” God no wait, that is where you find them anyway (smile).





GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 4:52:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: silhouette

Doesn’t anyone here feel that a Domme should herself be accomplished, smart, and successful in her own life before she can even try to control another’s? <snipped>
The real question is why do the rest of us have to put up with their continual con games and nonsense? Like everyone else here, women have emailed me, tried to get money, begged for online store purchases, and asked for cash. Well, I laughed, and sent them to “seedy bars dressed skimpy in bad sections of town to meet.” God no wait, that is where you find them anyway (smile).


I consider Myself accomplished and smart! 'Nuf said on that!
What is the point of your real question? you don't have to put up with it. If you get an email like that, delete it, and block the sender if you so desire. If you see it in a profile, smile and move on to the next one.
I delete plenty of emails every day. The boys aren't asking for money, but they are asking for much while offering little in return. ("here's my chat ID", "call me" with a # given for My convenience, "ur hot, can i have more pics?", "are you into this?" with attached photo of a naked cock and the balls nailed to a chair). I take it back...some boys are asking for money in the guise of assistance to move, travel to the USA or sponsorship for legal entry into the USA. (4 today!) I stated that in an earlier post on this very thread. I make it clear I don't do that either, but I still get the emails. And some emails are unbelievably insulting and smutty and could possibly equate to "email rape". (Did I just coin a new phrase? *S*) I didn't consent to receive all sorts of filth in My mailbox. That's just the way it goes.
I just hit delete. I am pretty sure you have the same ability.




UtopianRanger -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 7:35:29 PM)

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I consider Myself accomplished and smart! 'Nuf said on that!



From what I've seen, I'll second that opinion! LOL ; }



- The Ranger




kc692 -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 8:37:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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I consider Myself accomplished and smart! 'Nuf said on that!



From what I've seen, I'll second that opinion! LOL ; }






- The Ranger



I'll third , fourth, and fifth that also!!!!![:D]

I, also, am not a financial domme, but GoddessDusty didn't even address the ones that offer eveything to us in their opening letter. I have had both side of the coin;needing financial assistance, and offering financial assistance. I do not know if they keep offering it to a domme if she is interested as I have never responded to one like that to gauge its sincerity.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 8:44:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
quote:

ORIGINAL: silhouette
Doesn’t anyone here feel that a Domme should herself be accomplished, smart, and successful in her own life before she can even try to control another’s? <snipped>
The real question is why do the rest of us have to put up with their continual con games and nonsense? Like everyone else here, women have emailed me, tried to get money, begged for online store purchases, and asked for cash. Well, I laughed, and sent them to “seedy bars dressed skimpy in bad sections of town to meet.” God no wait, that is where you find them anyway (smile).


I consider Myself accomplished and smart! 'Nuf said on that!
What is the point of your real question? you don't have to put up with it. If you get an email like that, delete it, and block the sender if you so desire. If you see it in a profile, smile and move on to the next one.
I delete plenty of emails every day. The boys aren't asking for money, but they are asking for much while offering little in return. ("here's my chat ID", "call me" with a # given for My convenience, "ur hot, can i have more pics?", "are you into this?" with attached photo of a naked cock and the balls nailed to a chair). I take it back...some boys are asking for money in the guise of assistance to move, travel to the USA

I just hit delete. I am pretty sure you have the same ability.

Amen!
Agree with all the others that you are smart and accomplished... M




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Money slaves?? (6/9/2005 11:37:47 PM)

*blushes* Awwww...you all are so sweet!




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