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Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 12:10:05 AM   
becca333


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Status: offline 		This is probably a stupid question (which are my specialty).

I've lost a lot of weight over the past year, got all fit and slim(mer) and pleased my Dom a great deal - he loves the new sexy look.  But.... I seem to have become more of a wimp than ever.  I'm SURE I feel pain more now than I did before.  Is it possible that I've lost my padding so I feel more pain?  Or am I just a total incurable wimp?
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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 12:57:32 AM   
RaDeuX


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Status: offline 		It's all mental. Having lots of fat does not mean that you're going to experience less pain.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 1:20:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I disagree with RaDeux. Adipose tissue is an insulator against physical trauma as well as heat/cold. That's why the fat deposits are located where they are on our bodies, they are there to shield soft organs that are not enclosed in a bony cage. In terms of places that we customarily spank/flog such as buttocks and shoulders, it is entirely reasonable that as the underlying bones are now effectively closer to the impact as the padded layer has decreased, that the effect might be intensified.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 2:09:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not necessarily. The adipose tissue inside the body protects the internal organs from shock, as well as heat and cold. Afferent nerve fibers are right beneath the layer of hair cells, so no matter how much fat one might have, it does not affect the level of pain. It's almost like saying the fattest man in the world will feel less pain if his arm was to be sliced with a knife as opposed to the skinniest man in the world feeling a lot more pain at the location of the cut.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 2:56:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most of the pain receptors are fairly superficial in the skin yes, but there are pain receptors in other tissues such as the periosteum of bones, fascia of muscles and around the walls of blood vessels. A reduction in fat insulation may result in those receptors being more readily stimulated by solid impacts such as firm spanking and flogging.

And from one who has had a cut which sliced My shin to the bone ... with any deep cut, there is only an instant of pain as the nerves are severed, after that, nothing until the healing gets underway. The body therefore reacts entirely differently to cuts than to more widespread impacts, such as those inflicted by an instrument such as a hand, paddle or a flogger. So your analogy doesn't hold up.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 4:16:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had a peek at your profile to confirm a suspicion and found that I was correct in guessing that you are in your 40's. In women, pain sensitivity is affected quite a lot by what is happening with the hormones, and weight loss also affects the hormones, which are fat soluble and therefore stored in fat. I'm guessing your new reactions to pain are related to your weight loss not because you've lost padding, but because your hormones are in flux.
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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 4:18:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		The ability to take or reject pain is a mental issue---I would look at the change in YOU---has your self perception changed,  do you feel differently about things---your life, your look, your reason for submission? Do you not want those marks on the new body right now?----I'd look at how you feel about you first.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 5:21:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHeart

I had a peek at your profile to confirm a suspicion and found that I was correct in guessing that you are in your 40's. In women, pain sensitivity is affected quite a lot by what is happening with the hormones, and weight loss also affects the hormones, which are fat soluble and therefore stored in fat. I'm guessing your new reactions to pain are related to your weight loss not because you've lost padding, but because your hormones are in flux.
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What she said. And please ignore the blame the victim types who claim it's all in your head when it's obviously coming from your body.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 5:33:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		It wasn't My intent to "blame the victim"---My intent was to also have her look at how she feels, the change in her perception of who she is may have made a mental change in what she wants to experience-----yes there are many factors that could be at play here---and evaluating where one's head is should be one of those.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 6:14:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		becca,
i can only speak from personal experience, but after i lost about 15 pounds, i found my pain threshhold had changed greatly, at least in terms of spankings.  im not sure less padding had anything to do with it, or its more that over time you become more innured to it and it takes longer to get to the endorphin release. being a pain junkie to a certain degree, Master has gotten a bit creative. 
and no youre not a wimp.  not everyone enjoys pain. for me, i dont get aroused sexually at all, but the head space i reach is incredible, having the bruises to look at and feel for the days following is wonderful.
 
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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 7:20:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		A million and four things can change how you process sensations/pain- weight loss/gain is certainly one of them.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 8:17:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have found that mood makes a big difference. If I am tence I do not care for the pain (I also make a poor top) there are so many different things that can make a difference. Yes, it could be the weight loss, but then it could very well be something else too. Play where you are comfortable and be sure to communicate with your Sir.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 9:02:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if it's the weight loss, but since I've started losing weight (32# so far), I have noticed my pain tolerance getting less also.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/18/2007 9:04:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHeart

I had a peek at your profile to confirm a suspicion and found that I was correct in guessing that you are in your 40's. In women, pain sensitivity is affected quite a lot by what is happening with the hormones, and weight loss also affects the hormones, which are fat soluble and therefore stored in fat. I'm guessing your new reactions to pain are related to your weight loss not because you've lost padding, but because your hormones are in flux.
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RE: Feeling it more - 6/19/2007 2:28:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm also in agreement with those who say that other factors such as hormones and head space are also likely to have an impact on pain tolerance. But from an anatomical standpoint, the less padding theory is also a possible (but probably not the only) factor and was the one the OP asked about!

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/19/2007 5:42:30 AM   
becca333


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Status: offline 		Thank you all for the information and advice - and it helps to know that others have experienced the same thing.

It's not a fear of marks, or a change in submission.  I love marks, I wish he'd give me more, but I rarely get them and I glory in them.  I'm a sadly fast fader, too.  And it's not any confusion over submission, I've never felt so happy or valued, and I find pure joy in being his sub.  That's what's so frustrating.

And part of my disappointment is because I was improving, I was taking more and more and pleasing him so much.  And suddenly I've lost all my resistance to pain, or something.

It certainly could be hormones - we blame them for everything else! 

Thank you all, this has helped me a lot.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/19/2007 6:24:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Consider it a blessing in disguise; many people write concerned because they are afraid they are getting too resistant to pain, and need to take breaks to get their wires 'reset.'

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/19/2007 7:45:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		what he said 

think of it as a whole new way to connect with your Master, he has the opportunity to re-build your tolerance.

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/19/2007 8:55:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RaDeuX

Not necessarily. The adipose tissue inside the body protects the internal organs from shock, as well as heat and cold. Afferent nerve fibers are right beneath the layer of hair cells, so no matter how much fat one might have, it does not affect the level of pain. It's almost like saying the fattest man in the world will feel less pain if his arm was to be sliced with a knife as opposed to the skinniest man in the world feeling a lot more pain at the location of the cut.


Ill have to double check but I think this is the right assesment of the situation. Fat is a protector of bones and organs However the nerves are the same haveing more fat does not = haveing more protection or less pain.

Ill look it up and check with my mom (who has medical backround as an EMT)

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RE: Feeling it more - 6/19/2007 11:50:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for your answer. I have the same feelings as the initiater of this topic and have been wondering. All the other answers seemed to lack something. What you suggest sounds very logical and explains a lot.

I thank you for the answer it is valuable, at least to me.

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