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RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? - 7/1/2007 4:17:29 PM   
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... the majority of challenging submissives that i know exprience great difficulty with trying to find a dominant despite the fact the majority of dominants claim to want someone with 'spirit'... when in reality they do go for the more meeker types as they are not so much of a challenge.




In my mind, there is a difference between "challenging" or "spirited", and a real brat.  The difference is intent.  The challenging sub is still intent on pleasing, but merely wants to be sure that the dominant is worthy of pleasing, or that the limits are firmly set and will be enforced.  The brat is there to please themselves, and just wants as much attention as possible and will do pretty much anything to get it, including being as annoying as necessary.  

I have no longer got the time or energy for brats, and they tend not to get along with me either.  My discipline, like that for a child throwing a tantrum, is to ignore them when they act out.

Are you a brat?  There are certainly Doms who enjoy trying to tame brats.  Just be up front and don't waste the time of the rest.


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RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? - 7/2/2007 3:11:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GrizzlyBear
Are you a brat?  There are certainly Doms who enjoy trying to tame brats.  Just be up front and don't waste the time of the rest.



No i wouldnt say that i was... im quite clear about what it is that im looking for 'a mentally strong dom' and im very honest about myself.... im a confident, secure woman and im not going to pretend to be anything else just to make somebody who isnt happy...  in the statement that you made about the submissives pushing to ensure that a) the Dom is worthy of pleasing and b) set limits will be enforced, i can really relate to that.....  i think that pretty much sums it up.... one worry would be that maybe the Doms that are not so competant, or do not make the grade may consider the behaviour as being bratty..... 

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RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? - 7/2/2007 3:17:21 PM   
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The South Park episode "The Dog Whisperer" goes into great length to show how one establishes one's Dominance over fiesty subs.

Cartman gets sent to dog obedience training with Cesar Millan.

Too funny.

Sinergy

p.s.  I dont mind spirit in a submissive.  A fiery submissive is a lovely thing, especially when she is submissive to me.

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RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? - 7/2/2007 5:12:02 PM   
yamr6


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feisty well thats cool
just dont tske me for a fool
what i says is final
usualy sorts it

aww dont go expecting it to rhyme  it was off the cuff

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RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? - 7/3/2007 2:18:09 PM   
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Fiesty, yes.

Bratty, no.

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RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? - 7/3/2007 9:11:44 PM   
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I have had little luck finding a Dom since I'm fiesty, sassy, playful and confident. Yes, I'm obedient. They see me as the wild horse. They want to break me but they don't even stick around to do that.

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RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? - 7/4/2007 1:02:54 AM   
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To the OP -

It depends on the reasons for the behaviour, and the perception of the Dom.  Fun, teasing, witty, clever, naughty, inventive, imaginative - those qualities are often prized.  Self-centred, selfish, immature, rude, tiresome, bratty - they often drive Doms (and everyone else) away.  And different people can draw the line in different places.  That old favourite, communication, is vital, and so is respect.

I've known two very lonely subs who kept on saying 'No Dom is strong enough to handle me' when it actually meant 'I'm such a pain that nobody wants me'.  It's sad when people keep making the same mistakes.

But on the bright side, there has to be someone out there for everyone, it just takes a lot of searching sometimes. And maybe a small change in focus.

I hope you find the right Dom for you - with the right person you could be a lot of fun.

~ edited due to total incompetence ~

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