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ORIGINAL: Petronius

I'd like to see any evidence from any law enforcement agency that lets any employee legally access the databases for personal information like checking out potential play partners.

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SimplyMichael:  Emporer,

Cops break the law all the time and their use of LE resources to fuck with and abuse loved ones is legendary.  Ask anyone who works at a battered women's shelter what they think of cops and you will see more than a bit of rage.  If you think NICS isn't abused constantly, I am shocked.

Also, cops only catch the stupid and the unlucky, any decent criminal never gets caught by the cops and has no record.

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QueenCaliph:  At our PD we have computers in our cars.  It has a criminal database, photographs of perps and I can even do my reports on it. . . . What used to take up a lot of time can now be done in seconds and what you used to have to either call in over the radio or go back to the station for can be done literally in the palm of your hand, and without ever leaving you car.  So its not a matter of and agency "letting" their officers use it for personal reasons. If it is in an officers possession he can and does run checks on whomever he wants.  And no one knows who we run checks on because there is no way to keep track of the numerous criminal history checks we do and who the person we checked was and why we ran it (that is IF anyone actually cared).  We have to do background checks on every traffic stop we make, every call we are dispatched to and every suspicious person we make contact with. And sometimes we just run names at random for training purposes. 

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

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LaT:  I am just curious E, if this is the case then how is it that I can go into local public record and get my son's entire history of less than exemplary citizenship from his late teens and early twenties? 

Well, I'm guessing he did most of his anti-social behavior in one jurisdiction, and it is a jurisdiction that (1) tracks and stores criminal offenses in a data base and (2) allows access to that data base by citizens.  Is that true?  What are you searching at the public library?

Also, does it really have his ENTIRE history?  Arrests?  Dispositions?  If you are checking in Iowa, it is no surprise as Iowa has maintained (and shared) CBC databases since the early 1990s.  Try it in California.

E.

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Also, cops only catch the stupid and the unlucky, any decent criminal never gets caught by the cops and has no record.

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QC:  I highly doubt you actually are a sworn officer as you represent.  If you are, your level of ignorance of your own department rules is astonishing.  First, every background check you conduct from a remote computer (patrol car or walking) is logged, registered, and easily subject to scrutiny.  You are right in that no one checks this data until there is a need to do so. 

Second, even in the most backassward PD in Mississippi, there are extensive restrictions on the use of Department equipment and data for personal purposes, and in every major PD the misuse of confidential data base information is an offense that will get you busted in rank and probably suspended.  Might I suggest you call your union rep now?

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

  If it isn't - would anyone trust and possibly date someone in law enforcement or jobs those dealing with law if they truely knew this all went on?
 
Just something to think about.
 

Some do some don't.  In all honesty I have a lot of guys who won't date me once I tell them I am an officer. So I reveal it right off the bat so they can make their decision then.  Its something I have learned to accept and even understand.  Ironically I refuse to date police officers too. 

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

  If it isn't - would anyone trust and possibly date someone in law enforcement or jobs those dealing with law if they truely knew this all went on?
 
Just something to think about.
 

 
Some do some don't.  In all honesty I have a lot of guys who won't date me once I tell them I am an officer. So I reveal it right off the bat so they can make their decision then.  Its something I have learned to accept and even understand.  Ironically I refuse to date police officers too. 

I haven't ever met a police officer or law enforcement agent I was attracted enough to, to date...

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

That is like a medical professional doing the same to a persons medical records in case they 'may have' some checked history or bankers doing credit checks. 
 To have the ability to do it is one thing - misusing this ability is another.  And if you have to be in a profession where you need to be 'careful' who you date - why on earth put yourself in the position where you may date someone with a possibly dodgy past and have to ask to do a check?
 
Peace
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

I haven't ever met a police officer or law enforcement agent I was attracted enough to, to date...
 
Peace
the.dark.

 Well......... I keep telling the guys they need to lay off of the doughnuts.  (God I hate that stereotype.)

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956
My point:   Those of you pontificating about the importance of CBCs don't have an effing clue what you are talking about.

{rofl} YOU haven't a clue as to what you are talking about; you might want to keep your mouth shut, unless you know a bit more, more fact, less speculation and judgement. I run CBCs as you call them, I can get a LOT of information, besides criminal if I asked for it, I don't because, I know exactly what I want and what I need to know.  I don't want to be intrusive, but, I want to keep my job AND be safe.
 
As I said in the other threads my JOB is at risk if I associate with people with felonies, etc, so I do have access to background checks that the general public does not; ALL LEGAL. I set my criteria to a few fields and if neccesary make a few calls {military records are blocked unless any criminal investigation or charges were/are present}.
 
Emperor1956, if an I were potential partners and we were preparing to meet, I would run a check on you, no second thoughts. Not only would my job be at risk IF you had something in your past [I am NOT saying you do] but also my saftey among other things. If that bothered you, then I would tell you 'good bye.' If me keeping my job and being safe is an issue, then we have no business associating on that level or meeting face-to-face and being friends off of on-line.
 
I have ran into men on cm {and a few other sites} that are pediphiles, registered sex offenders, violent felons, have restraining orders and orders of protection against them among other things.  I am a single mother, and their is NO WAY in hell that I would want people like that around my child or myself. How did I find that out, I ran a background check; a few of the guys had skipped out on parole or had not registered with their respective counties, my inquiries set off flags [in the computer system] and a few bad guys are back in prision.
 
I don't want to think of what may have happened if I had not. I do trust my instincts, if something seems 'amiss' I run a more through check, I also talk to potential partners as much as I can.
 
I ran a check on MJ {work said I had too - one of my co-workers is on this site and called me on not having run a check on Him}, and everything was clear; He told me about His military background and a few tickets, nobigdeal. I trusted Him as a friend, and now, I trust Him s a Master and a close friend. He knows I did it, He was fine with it. He can run one on me, I don't have a problem, heck, I will give Him my maden name if He wanted to run a check on my parents, I don't have anything to hide. 

I'm not paranoid; I like my job and I want to keep myself and my son safe.

If someone doesn't like it, then oh well. They have to be hiding something. Once I get te report, I look at it for a few things, then I destroy it. I don't keep it. No reason too.    

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ORIGINAL: Petronius

I'd like to see any evidence from any law enforcement agency that lets any employee legally access the databases for personal information like checking out potential play partners.

Have you heard of "Pocket Blue?"  It taps directly into NCIC and an officer can keep it in his pocket.  As a computer professional you do realize that many police departments around the country are putting computers in patrol cars and issuing wireless handheld computers to their patrol officers. At our PD we have computers in our cars.