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A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 9:18:28 AM   
darchChylde


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The following is from a 1950's Home Economics textbook intended for High School girls, teaching how to prepare for married life.
  1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal - on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.
  2. Prepare yourself: Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with alot of work- weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.
  3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift, too.
  4. Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.
  5. Minimize the noise: At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.
  6. Some Dont's: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.
  7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.
  8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.
  9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and relax.
  10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.


< Message edited by darchChylde -- 6/21/2007 9:21:41 AM >

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 9:24:06 AM   
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or suggest he lie down in the bedroom.


Well, this is fucked up.  They forgot to mention the obligatory bj.


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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 9:32:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I knew there was a reason I liked the idea of a 1950s household!

It's amazing that this was not the unspoken expectations of the period, but that it was actually written into textbooks.  The dictum to bite down on your own needs and be a tranquil vessel for your manly provider drives me around the bend ...

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 9:37:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		it definitely wouldn't work for me since i'll be walking out the door when he's coming home from work.  someone will have to watch the UMs while Mommy rocking with the bands.

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 9:37:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		what gets me is that there still  men out there who expect it to be like that ..........

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 10:23:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HarleyKitty69

what gets me is that there still  men out there who expect it to be like that ..........

Um, hello?  They're called DOM's?


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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 10:26:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: HarleyKitty69

what gets me is that there still  men out there who expect it to be like that ..........

Um, hello?  They're called DOM's?





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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 10:39:37 AM   
drawntothedark


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Status: offline 		While this sort of set up would work for me (if I wasn't already so in love with my job) I don't think it would work for everyone. Of course this is not 1950 anymore. Actually in most two income household I know it seems it's the lady coming home later than hubby.

One of the most succesful unions I have seen are some friends of mine. They each work. He has set 8-4 hours - hers are when ever she walks through the door. Generally she is home by 6 but sometimes it's later. He gets the kids and gives them snacks.While he over sees homework he sets out to make dinner. If she isn't home by six he feeds the kids, washed them and gets them ready for bed. He then starts to pick up the house (and their house is super clean). Usually if she has not gotten home by now she would come in and eat then she would do the dishes. After dishes and after night night kisses and a story they sit down to watch T.V and they both fold clothes while doing that.

They have been doing this for years and their house runs like clock work.

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 11:43:38 AM   
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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 11:45:01 AM   
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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 11:51:42 AM   
heartofakajira


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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: HarleyKitty69

what gets me is that there still  men out there who expect it to be like that ..........

Um, hello?  They're called DOM's?



I second that motion Bossy.....DUH Harley....that is part of the definition of a DOMINANT

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 11:55:06 AM   
darchChylde


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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 11:57:22 AM   
heartofakajira


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Status: offline 		darchChylde...that is true..though there are ...as some people like to say, true dominants, out there. 

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 11:58:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: HarleyKitty69

what gets me is that there still  men out there who expect it to be like that ..........

Um, hello?  They're called DOM's?



Bossy, surely you are joking :-) ?

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 12:02:14 PM   
ErusUxor


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Status: offline 		oh yeah? so if thats "part" of the definition of dominant...I'd just adore hearing the ENTIRE definition...

A woman place...well that depends on the woman I suppose....

Interesting thread. Fun thoughts to snack on......



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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 12:03:45 PM   
Najakcharmer


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Status: offline 		Two things.

One, I'm given to understand that this specific piece of writing is inauthentic in the sense that it was a modern recreation of supposed values in the 1950's for the purpose of amusing commentary, rather than an authentic reprint from any period publication.  This information may or may not be accurate, but the supposed source of this piece has been alternatively quoted as being from a popular magazine or a newspaper rather than a textbook.  Enough doubt has been cast on its origins that I would not accept it as an authentic cite without better evidence. 

Two, it's a perfectly functional way to run a D/s household regardless of the wabbly bits of the submissive in question.  Nobody cares except the people in that relationship. 

In this day and age, a relationship may involve two men, two women, two men and a women, two women and a man, a dominant man and a submissive woman, a dominant woman and a submissive man, and they may have a dog, a horse or a pet kangaroo instead of kids.  Or the kids may live with the ex.  And so on and so forth.  Adapt what works for you in the individual relationship, and let other people adapt what works for them. 

Is "dominant man, submissive woman" really the new shock value in the modern D/s community?  If so, why?  Just because it's retro doesn't mean it doesn't still work just fine for the folks who are wired that way.  So long as they don't expect or demand *everyone* to be wired that way, more power to'em I say. 

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 12:05:54 PM   
heartofakajira


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ORIGINAL: ErusUxor

oh yeah? so if thats "part" of the definition of dominant...I'd just adore hearing the ENTIRE definition...

A woman place...well that depends on the woman I suppose....

Interesting thread. Fun thoughts to snack on......




ErusUxor--

I bet You'd love to hear the entire definition, huh? well, the definition is all the individual people's definitions put together...it is not clear cut...what may be true for one couple is not true for another...but there is a general concensus out there about what a dominant is, as well as what a slave/submissive is..

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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 12:07:59 PM   
darchChylde


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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

Two things.

One, I'm given to understand that this specific piece of writing is inauthentic in the sense that it was a modern recreation of supposed values in the 1950's for the purpose of amusing commentary, rather than an authentic reprint from any period publication.  This information may or may not be accurate, but the supposed source of this piece has been alternatively quoted as being from a popular magazine or a newspaper rather than a textbook.  Enough doubt has been cast on its origins that I would not accept it as an authentic cite without better evidence. 

Two, it's a perfectly functional way to run a D/s household regardless of the wabbly bits of the submissive in question.  Nobody cares except the people in that relationship. 

In this day and age, a relationship may involve two men, two women, two men and a women, two women and a man, a dominant man and a submissive woman, a dominant woman and a submissive man, and they may have a dog, a horse or a pet kangaroo instead of kids.  Or the kids may live with the ex.  And so on and so forth.  Adapt what works for you in the individual relationship, and let other people adapt what works for them. 

Is "dominant man, submissive woman" really the new shock value in the modern D/s community?  If so, why?  Just because it's retro doesn't mean it doesn't still work just fine for the folks who are wired that way.  So long as they don't expect or demand *everyone* to be wired that way, more power to'em I say. 



thanks for the info Najakcharmer, i am shamed to say that i didn't research the validity before posting... also, i agree with your second point 100 percent


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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 12:09:49 PM   
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well wishes ~ fairer


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RE: A Woman's Place - 6/21/2007 12:15:59 PM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		I don't think it's a lifestyle thing.  I don't think it's a dominant thing.  Back in the day, when I was young, my mom stayed home.  Many women did, it's what was done.  Now it's different and women have more choices.  I think my mom would've been happy to contribute (financially) to the family, but her mother pressured her not to work.  After we were in grade school, my mother returned to work.  I like the idea of women having freedom of choice.  So if a 1950's style environment works for them, great.  If they want to work outside the home, that's cool too.  It's mainly finding a partner (dom or not) who's ideas are aligned with yours, or making the sacrifices/adjustments together, to make it work.  There are doms who help and do things for the benefit of the family without feeling the pressure of strict gender roles.

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