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Politesub53 -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/24/2007 4:16:08 PM)
Ma`am Ocilla, i loved Your analogies and thank You for sharing. [;)]

SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/25/2007 12:35:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chiaThePet Dearest Ms Jo, What You have said here of course makes very good sense. If the love is deep and strong enough, it will allow perhaps even more than mere acquaintance shall. After all, stories are endless concerning what individuals will do for love. Fortunate is the boy Ma'am, fortunate indeed. Respectfully, chia* (the pet) Well when I actually find one he will indeed be fortunate LOL. Thank you chia

MistressDolly -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/25/2007 7:19:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chiaThePet Dearest MistressDolly, Hello again indeed! Ma'am, (spelled correctly) :-) Yes, on the surface, the responses have forwarded a desire to possess it ALL, the exchange of Power, the surrender of obedience, and the love and caring associated with vanilla relationships. i will admit to being soothed by such, my own misconceptions having given me pause as to my approach in conjunction with D/s relationships. i can submit to Her requirements, yield to Her authority, serve Her with passionate purpose, and have allowance to love and be loved in return. The rose is in bloom, fine turning Her garden, understanding wafts in and around my head, the scent of which reveals much adored beauty. Thank You MistressDolly, for coming in and out of my life. She's there, She's gone, and a boy ponders within the garden. Respectfully, chia* (the pet) It is my pleasure, chia the pet :) Good boy on the spelling ;p

chiaThePet -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/25/2007 11:43:06 PM)
Hello, MistressDolly, Well Hello, MistressDolly, It's so nice to have You back to hear this song You're looking Swell, MistressDolly The boys can tell, MistressDolly You're still Glowin', the Power's showin Your Spell's growin strong We feel the dungeon swayin' For the boys are playin' One of Your old favorite Scenes from way back when Mmmm Wow Wow Wow fellas Look at your Mistress now fellas Pray that She'll never go away Hope that Her Beauty is here to stay The boys are on bended knees and say MistressDolly please never go away aaaaagain. Respectfully, chia* (the pet)

hereyesruponyou -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/26/2007 8:43:52 AM)
To me the big question here is more relationship driven than necessarily love driven. I have developed relationships where vanilla love is not there, but where there is still a deep caring and respect. And i have had play only situations where as long as the mutual respect is there, it works very well for both of us, but the only emotions are possibly friendship. Perhaps this is why i strive for more than one relationship at a time, but always desire to maintain one where the vanilla portion of the love and deep feelings are primary to me and fulfill a very deep need. I prefer the single red rose placed in amidst a bouquet of daisies. That vibrant energy, color and hint of devilishness among all that cutsy purity just does it for me every time.

ocilla -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/26/2007 12:56:33 PM)
TY chia and polite.

SPOILEDOMINA -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/26/2007 8:43:10 PM)
I loved my chia pet....

chiaThePet -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/26/2007 11:00:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hereyesruponyou To me the big question here is more relationship driven than necessarily love driven. I have developed relationships where vanilla love is not there, but where there is still a deep caring and respect. And i have had play only situations where as long as the mutual respect is there, it works very well for both of us, but the only emotions are possibly friendship. Perhaps this is why i strive for more than one relationship at a time, but always desire to maintain one where the vanilla portion of the love and deep feelings are primary to me and fulfill a very deep need. I prefer the single red rose placed in amidst a bouquet of daisies. That vibrant energy, color and hint of devilishness among all that cutsy purity just does it for me every time. Dearest hereyesruponyou, As i am learning, D/s relationships encompass the many facets which You describe here, and as You point out, the relationship itself, regardless of intensity becomes the cornerstone on which to build a mutual respect and understanding of one another. i do love Your analogy of the rose among the daisies, and it in itself raisies another good point when in consideration of a relationship with a Dominant. It has been my understanding that a Dominant may choose to aquire one to many submissives or slaves in accordance with Their wishes and desires. i am unsure at this stage in my learning, if this is a widely accepted viewpoint, or if some to many may seek a one to one relationship. It has in fact uplifted me to find that so many Dominants do seek a closeness and even loving relationship with Their submissives, reaching beyond the steadfast image of fetish feeding fetish, need meeting need, and desire requiring of desire, without a bond beyond the coupling of command unto surrender as it pertains to the yielding of one's mind and body to another. i am at once moved within. Boquets are a sensory delight, i am encouraged of their existence within the Dominant/submissive exchange. i am however realizing, that the garden is an explosion of separate and distinct beautiful blooms, a kaleidoscope of color and wonderful hues, each holding a deep meaning to those whom gather and place them about their world. That whether a single stem, or a bounty of blossoms, they enhance the heart of their glorious display. Thank You for taking a moment to share Your thoughts, in such, i grow. Respectfully, chia* (the pet)

chiaThePet -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/26/2007 11:16:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SPOILEDOMINA I loved my chia pet.... Dearest SPOILEDDOMINA, Seed, water and watch me grow, fun for the entire family. Just keep me out of the herb garden! Respectfully, chia* (the pet)

MistressDolly -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/27/2007 10:05:50 PM)
:) *smootch chia, the charmster :)

chiaThePet -> RE: If i Presented A Rose Before You........ (6/27/2007 10:50:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressDolly :) smootch chia, the charmster :) Dearest MistressDolly, Awwww Thank You Lovely Lady Just a charm on a bracelet of gems Ma'am Respectfully, chia (the pet)

amayos -> RE: If I Presented A Rose Before You... (6/28/2007 10:29:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chiaThePet Am i wrong in feeling as though someone has spiked the D/s punchbowl with a fifth of hundred proof vanilla? Does the music simply sound just a tad bit too sweet and relaxing at times in the Dominant/submissive waltz? Is absolute power diminished or weakened when vanilla emotions and commitments enter into the D/s relationship? Absolute power, if it is indeed absolute power, exists no matter the environment. I feel we should dispense with phrases like "vanilla emotions" and accept the human capacity we all have to feel love and empathy—even to those who may be our slaves. If our power is absolute, a loving stroke shouldn't weaken it. The real thief in the night is living a lie. This is a tragic human flaw to which no "lifestyle" is immune. Resisting the popular temptation to eschew the pursuit of truth and instead holding yourself accountable to it is the key to a solid foundation. Are you accountable to your actions? Are you done swimming in abstracts and ready to be honest to yourself, even if it's painful? Do you say what you mean and mean what you say? Are you through with intellectualizing domination and submission to death and ready to live it? When two beings embody that sentiment, the structure is real and will prevail throughout the gamut of life.

chiaThePet -> RE: If I Presented A Rose Before You... (6/28/2007 10:55:07 PM)
Absolute power, if it is indeed absolute power, exists no matter the environment *It will exist, but my query questions whether or not it is weakened by love.* *Does love and caring emotion cause pause within the heart of Power?* *Is it not possible for absolute power to hesitate it's command on the flesh* *that it so loves and cares for? Is it not possible? Is it not probable? Or* *can absolute power divorce itself from gathered emotions and freely* *reign down it's requirements with no fore or afterthought of such?* *Will absolute power burn into the eyes of a stranger in parallel to those* *of it's hearts delight? Indifferent, unmoved, inseparable of the two?* I feel we should dispense with phrases like "vanilla emotions" and accept the human capacity we all have to feel love and empathy—even to those who may be our slaves. If our power is absolute, a loving stroke shouldn't weaken it. *Do we dispense of such phrases because it makes us feel uncomfortable* *to bring such to the Dominant/submissive table? Does the connotation* *itself suggest a weakness within absolute power relative to the capacity* *of love we may give or receive? Many are the applications of should not,* *but do they come with absolute guarantees of would not? Could they not?* The real thief in the night is living a lie. This is a tragic human flaw to which no "lifestyle" is immune. Resisting the popular temptation to eschew the pursuit of truth and instead holding yourself accountable to it is the key to a solid foundation. Are you accountable to your actions? Are you done swimming in abstracts and ready to be honest to yourself, even if it's painful? Do you say what you mean and mean what you say? Are you through with intellectualizing domination and submission to death and ready to live it? When two beings embody that sentiment, the structure is real and will prevail throughout the gamut of life. *Living a lie to who's truth? Yours? Mine? Theirs? What is the truth?* *Is it the voices in this room, in that room, above, below, behind, all* *chanting the mantra that theirs is the way, the truth, and the right?* *Is there a popular temptation to avoid the truth and hold one's self* *accountable to it? Does the desire to learn, to dispel myth, to discard* *image and ideology which prostitutes, to resist utter acceptance just* *because, to reach into their minds with query that one could be* *enlightened and uplifted within expanding knowledge equal the* *sum of unnaccountability? Am i held accountable for pursuing* *the wisdom which i yearn to possess that i would be honest to myself?* *Abstracts exist all around me, it is existing in such which causes me* *pain and confusion. It is the desire to exist beyond such which causes* *me to say what i mean, and mean what i say, as i say it. Am i in err to* *wish to understand all i hunger for, to desire to contain the intellect* *that i should succeed in brilliance among them, that i would live to* *the fullest potential of my days at their feet? Or does sentiment remind* *me of other worlds and resolutions, where sugar is sweet and the moment* *can be manipulated with the presentation of a rose?* **Respectfully, chia (the pet)***

amayos -> RE: If I Presented A Rose Before You... (6/29/2007 1:02:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chiaThePet Does love and caring emotion cause pause within the heart of Power? Is it not possible for absolute power to hesitate it's command on the flesh that it so loves and cares for? What is the truth? I see power as the ability to influence and direct; it is a right of authority. Isolation, rigidity or violence doesn't legitimize power; these qualities are merely tendrils among many to express or enforce it as desired. Power can come from the force of love, too, and from love, the understanding there must be structure, discipline and correction. A mother's love and authority over her child is a natural and universally understood demonstration of this. In such a light, I do not see love as an enemy of power; I see it as a moving and beneficial force that gives it context, in fact. But no matter the example, it seems correct that absolute power brings with it the unapologetic ability to not enforce one's will or to change the flow of the current when so desired. Baking a batch of cookies for your slave or showing some other form of affection toward him or her shouldn't weaken your power. After all, power is about influence. There are many ways of inspiring and containing the spirit of influence, and love is one of the better ones. What is truth? I see truth as the prevailing reality—of ourselves and the Universe around us of which we are a part. It is wresting free of the deceptions of the ego and accepting what is. One can and will use whatever "version" of the truth he desires—success of this approach depends upon how close to reality that version really comes. If one operates upon an outer facade that does not match the inside, he is living a lie, both to himself and the one he serves. No matter how opulent the mask, if it does not reflect the inner truth, it equates to nothing more than a tool of deception—and an ultimately harmful one to the wearer, at that. Whether the mask is purposeful or unwittingly worn, fostering an environment of honest self discovery and personal accountability becomes the impetus to remove it and find the correct path. This is true of both would-be Keeper and slave. This is true of all human endeavors I can think of, in fact.

chiaThePet -> RE: If I Presented A Rose Before You... (6/29/2007 1:57:40 PM)
Sir, It was more in terms of perhaps a Dominant's desire, wherein They find release at the obedient surrender of Their submissive to perhaps a stern flogging of the flesh, which occupied my thought of mind. Would the Dominant find hesitation to strike from a core of power within which recognized the submissive before Them as cherised and loved? Would the flogging assume a lighter application as the flesh of target had indeed risen above simple slave of purpose? Though i am quite the fan of fresh baked cookies, peanut butter chocolate my favorite, if Sir is in an especially loving mood this afternoon. i'll do clean up in return. Your addressing of truths, masks, deceptions, lies, accountabilities, abstracts, and facades in context to my original query somehow has me pondering what it is exactly You are addressing here. Is it my desire to question and understand the intellect which encompasses the Dominant mind, or are You questioning my intent and genuine desire to do such as counterfeit and untruthful, a masquerade of sorts, that i secretly am not what i profess to be? Or is it simply the commom denominator shared of us beyond the D/s equation, specifically that of Dearest Mistress Dolly which garners Your attention to this pet? Either, or, i am always a boy whom finds great substance and purpose of Those whom would care to Mentor and require of me. i lift my head and focus my eyes as the universe unfolds before me. Thank You for Your words Sir, and if i may, nice tongue. Respectfully, chia* (the pet)

amayos -> RE: If I Presented A Rose Before You... (6/29/2007 2:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chiaThePet Your addressing of truths, masks, deceptions, lies, accountabilities, abstracts, and facades in context to my original query somehow has me pondering what it is exactly You are addressing here. Your question, of course. It's a big question, and its answer has many parts that extend beyond the dominant perspective—which I most certainly did address. And thanks for the kudos on the tongue.

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