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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 3:33:48 PM

kyraofMists

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No basketball, huh..... have I ever told you folks about my baseball career? Carry a big bat..... lol

LOL

That's a nice big umm... stick you got there. *w*

That reminds me of one afternoon I went into my dad's garage and he had a wooden dowel hanging from a leather thong on the wall. It stopped me in my tracks thinking of all the wicked things my Lord could do with that. I have had fantasies of being beaten with a thick wooden club since that day. I bet that would be nice and thuddy and I love thuddy...

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 3:43:18 PM

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No basketball, huh..... have I ever told you folks about my baseball career? Carry a big bat..... lol

LOL

That's a nice big umm... stick you got there. *w*

That reminds me of one afternoon I went into my dad's garage and he had a wooden dowel hanging from a leather thong on the wall. It stopped me in my tracks thinking of all the wicked things my Lord could do with that. I have had fantasies of being beaten with a thick wooden club since that day. I bet that would be nice and thuddy and I love thuddy...

"errrrr, dad.......... can I have that dowel.... I'm making.....shelves, yeah, that's it, shelves......... *

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 4:39:56 PM

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*looks around*

"don't get me started"

*walks out the door*

My feelings exactly!!

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 9:36:49 PM

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There is such a thing as a true master or true slave - there's a hundred different kinds of them. It's whatever it needs to be for each person.

And the idea of taking a walk on the other side first - I could never Domme anyone. I'd get the giggles and feel silly. Or worse, I'm afraid it'd open up something deep and dark and I'd be too cruel. It's just not right for me.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 10:04:02 PM

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Naturally people have different character traits. Some are submissives, some dominant, some agressive. For some submissive role is a temorary fetish impuls. True slave in my understanding is a slave who feels constant satisfaction and harmony serving his/her master as opposed to temporary roleplay situation. The same applies to a submissive.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 10:08:22 PM

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PS. Frquent us of "f" word does not fit a submissive character.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 10:27:37 PM

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PS.. frequent giggling in men doesn't fit a domy character

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 10:32:38 PM

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PS. Frquent us of "f" word does not fit a submissive character.

It also doesn't make one less submissive either.

i am a slavet (24/7) and not ONCE has my Master/Daddy made me curtail my use of that word. As a matter of fact once when i said a sentence with the word mutherf**ker in it he applauded me beacause it is one of his favorite catch phrases.

Now i use it ALOT more due to being with him all the time.

Sooooo i think it really depends on the ear of the Master/Mistress as to whether it fits a submissive character or not.....if my mouth made the difference as to how submissive i am then i would be in a ton of trouble. LOL

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/23/2007 10:39:32 PM

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i was thinking the same thing, velvetears. The opinions of strangers are completely irrelevant to my self-esteem, whether they use the word "true" or not. i know who i am and what i am and i don't base my sense of identity on the criteria that others set.

To say that someone else isn't a "true slave" is no different, to me, than it is for someone to tell another that they aren't a slave. And, how can a stranger make that determination? Simply putting the word "true" in front of slave doesn't make the statement any different, any more powerful, or any more significant.

Is there any difference in saying, "She isn't a true cook or a true slut or a true gardener" than in saying, "She isn't a cook or a slut or a gardener"? If there's a difference between those statements, maybe someone could help me to see it. They each say the same thing to me, that someone doesn't like someone else's cooking, sluttishness, or gardening.

People get really hung-up on the word "true" being used in front of the word "slave" (or Dom/Master, etc.) but, it doesn't mean anything, unless you consider it to mean something.

You decide who you truly are and what you truly believe and truly care about. Just be true to yourself and the negative remarks of others will not mean anything. At least, that's how i look at it.

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How can you let the words of others you do not know personally and have no connection to affect you negatively? If you were walking down the sidewalk and a street bum came up to you and called you a worthles skanky bitch would you take offense or walk away shaking your head. This bum doesn't know you from adam, you wouldn't even think twice about his words, they would have no effect on you at all. Why let words from strangers on a message board be any different?

As for true - i can set my own standards as to what i feel is "true" but as long as i don't impose that on any other dynamic i can't see that as a bad thing. We all need to judge what is in our own best interest so we set standards and judge whether others stand up to those standards or not. We don't have to be rude and say - You're not "true" get out of here - just a simple no i don't think we would make a good match will suffice. People who have to shove "true" in other peoples faces, imo are insecure people.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:31:15 AM

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Ummmm......<glances at screen name>

Well I'm glad someone out there thinks they know if i'm true to myself or not.

Everyones got their own thoughts on this....and it's been awhile since it was beat to death. So let's beat on it some more.

True is what I know I am.... to myself. I'm true to myself in knowing who I am...what I am...and that's all that matters to me...and whom I choose to serve. Yeah, there's been those that have called me fake... but those are also the ones who do not know me... or i've refused to drop down on my knees before. Have even been called worse because i've changed my mind about something and backed out of things. Because I was being true to myself and found I was in over my head.

But what you may think of the word TRUE... is fine by me... because i'm not being true to you.. doesn't mean i'm not true to others...and most of all... to myself...

Oh and it doesn't offend me for someone to have different thoughts about this screen name at all.... no more than anyone else should be ... or would get offended over my thoughts of who they too claim to be.

You use the word "girl" in your screen name... no i've not looked at your profile... not going to either. But I've always wondered why a GROWN WOMAN would want to be refered to as girl... little one.. babygirl.... it DOES NOT offend me... just made me curious.. so having true in ones name... is really no different than someone using "girl" in theirs. (Got a few people on here that use girl in their name that i'm friends with...so you know it doesn't really bother me...LOL........... waves to owned

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 7:03:48 AM

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LOL

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 7:29:31 AM

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The hang-up with titles is always interesting. "I'm a true slave." means "You're not." And, "I'm slavier than you."

When you look at countries, you always put the tough bit in the title. Any country with 'Democratic' in the name, isn't. And if it's called 'The People's Republic of......' then you can bet the 'people' as a group are the bottom of the economic food chain. I tend to view 'true' subs and slaves, and Dom/mes as well, in that light. If you have to TELL people that you are, you ain't.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 7:39:51 AM

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The hang-up with titles is always interesting. "I'm a true slave." means "You're not." And, "I'm slavier than you."

Only to those who think that. I see someone say that and I think "Cool - good for them." It has absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with how one feels about oneself.

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When you look at countries, you always put the tough bit in the title. Any country with 'Democratic' in the name, isn't. And if it's called 'The People's Republic of......' then you can bet the 'people' as a group are the bottom of the economic food chain. I tend to view 'true' subs and slaves, and Dom/mes as well, in that light. If you have to TELL people that you are, you ain't.

That could apply to anything, actually. I've heard that said about women who proclaim how strong they are. Or men proclaiming how sensitive to women they are. Or or or....but I believe it's really all about the intention behind the words, and the only one who can really know that (truly know that?) is the one saying the words.

What if someone is saying that to you?? "You're such a strong person. You're so true to your nature as a submissive. You're a true slave, in my opinion." Are they proclaiming that the rest of the world is not? Are they wrong? Is it...um....true when someone says these things about another, vs. when someone says it about him/herself? Just some thoughts to ponder...

It's a subject I find perplexing, as there are so many strong opinions about it and it comes up time and time again. Look how hostile & judgmental the OP is about it? Swearing, calling it silly, questioning it with skepticism... She's obviously not just asking out of curiosity. It's not a neutral question. What is she so protective about, and why?

Those are the questions that come to my mind when I see the path this topic tends to take. I find it most intriguing.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 7:46:07 AM

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Don't ca just hate that word 'true" along with "real" to describe a person.......

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 7:48:29 AM

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I know! Damn that Pinocchio when he said, "I'm a real boy!"

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 8:00:15 AM

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The hang-up with titles is always interesting. "I'm a true slave." means "You're not." And, "I'm slavier than you."

Only to those who think that. I see someone say that and I think "Cool - good for them." It has absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with how one feels about oneself.

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When you look at countries, you always put the tough bit in the title. Any country with 'Democratic' in the name, isn't. And if it's called 'The People's Republic of......' then you can bet the 'people' as a group are the bottom of the economic food chain. I tend to view 'true' subs and slaves, and Dom/mes as well, in that light. If you have to TELL people that you are, you ain't.

That could apply to anything, actually. I've heard that said about women who proclaim how strong they are. Or men proclaiming how sensitive to women they are. Or or or....but I believe it's really all about the intention behind the words, and the only one who can really know that (truly know that?) is the one saying the words.

What if someone is saying that to you?? "You're such a strong person. You're so true to your nature as a submissive. You're a true slave, in my opinion." Are they proclaiming that the rest of the world is not? Are they wrong? Is it...um....true when someone says these things about another, vs. when someone says it about him/herself? Just some thoughts to ponder...

It's a subject I find perplexing, as there are so many strong opinions about it and it comes up time and time again. Look how hostile & judgmental the OP is about it? Swearing, calling it silly, questioning it with skepticism... She's obviously not just asking out of curiosity. It's not a neutral question. What is she so protective about, and why?

Those are the questions that come to my mind when I see the path this topic tends to take. I find it most intriguing.

If I compliment you on your good qualities, it's a different dynamic to claiming that I possess those qualities.

And you're right - there's a lot of heat in this debate, every time it bobs up. We always enjoy the classics.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 8:01:16 AM

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why are you letting something so trivial bother you?

if i said my dog was a true hunter, or that you were a true friend would it bother you?

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 8:05:00 AM

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ORIGINALI went into my dad's garage and he had a wooden dowel hanging from a leather thong on the wall. It stopped me in my tracks thinking of all the wicked things my Lord could do with that. I have had fantasies of being beaten with a thick wooden club since that day. I bet that would be nice and thuddy and I love thuddy...

what was your dad actually using that for ?

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 8:09:35 AM

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If I compliment you on your good qualities, it's a different dynamic to claiming that I possess those qualities.

But wouldn't that mean, as you said, that you're saying nobody else is, and I'm "slavier" than others? That's the point I'm trying to counter to your point. Personally, people often tend to look bad when complimenting themselves. I just don't see how this particular compliment is different than others. Unless someone is saying "I'M a TRUE slave.." (tone of voice can change meaning).

Don't get me wrong - I get what you're saying. I don't automatically draw the same conclusion, however. Not over a simple word.

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And you're right - there's a lot of heat in this debate, every time it bobs up. We always enjoy the classics.

Indeed!

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 8:16:31 AM

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Some people use "true" to use their definition and ideals of these things. I think once these people realize that "true" is a subjective term and what works for them may not be someone else's definition they may see the greater picture. Nothing is set in stone with definitions, everyone has their own that works for them.

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