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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 5:38:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

(I didnt miss the sarcasm, I was simply agreeing with you)

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p.s. (I use parenthesis when I want to whisper to one person and dont want everybody else to hear)

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 5:42:54 PM

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It's easy. A Twue Dominant doesn't eat quiche or wear fuzzy bunny slippers.

And all the other rules you've ever heard about being a True Whatever are likely to be in the same category as the quiche and bunny slippers rule.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:00:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: GoodgirlFind

If you arent proud 2b a submissive and stand tall, than reconsider.

If you arent proud to be on your knees and look up at your master or mistress, than reconsider.

If you dont feel humbled at your masters feet, why are you here?

If you feel msters dont appreciate their subs, get the fuck out.

Masters dont have to play a sub role to understand how much a sub can get joy in submitting. They know it. The real masters, that is. not the doms who can only master your pussy and not your soul. Plenty of fake, jerk off, asshole "doms" around, good luck.

Very thought provoking and sums it up rather well.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:09:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: stella40

Oh my God! And this is such a big issue for you?

Come take a walk with me sister!

I'm a transsexual female, a pre-op transsexual female. But not the petite 5ft 2ins slim blonde type of transsexual female, I'm just under 6ft, plus sized and pre-op.

Sure, I get people tell me I'm not a true submissive by the way I express myself.. but get this... I also sometimes get people calling me a man, a trannie, a faggot, a freak, a wierdo, a perv, a batty man, and so on....

.. and not just on this website either, but on other websites too, and not just online, but offline, out in the streets, to my face even..

And do you know? If I got angry or upset every time someone called me one of these names .... I'd just become a ....... crossdresser (think about it).

"You're not a real woman!" I hear every so often.

"And....?" I say back to them, "Your point being.....?"

I know who I am.. I know I am Stella, I know I am female. It says so on all my documents, it says so on my medical records, this is what my doctors think, my family thinks, my friends and the other people in my life.

It's what my Domme thinks too.

And I say f**k what anyone else thinks. I know who I am.

And you think that being a 'true' slave is really such a big issue? You must have an interesting life.

Thank you thank you thank you

Nothing makes more sense that what you have written

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RE: There's no such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:13:26 PM

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Sorry, I don't know your "take"--other than that truth must exist because you keep insisting on reifying it.

Is blue true? Or is it false? How about the number 12, is that true? Beauty? "True" and "false" don't apply to every concept in the universe. I really don't even understand what you're trying to say. To speak of "true" and "false" dominance is pure gibberish to me. It's what's called a "category mistake" in philosophy.

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I said you can't apply mathematical notions of truth to categories like "dominant" or "submissive." You haven't responded to that, and evidently aren't going to, either.

By my posts in this thread alone you must surely (and no doubt already did) know my take on that. And no kudos for answering your Beethoven question? I thought it was nice of me to answer one of your questions despite your refusal to answer mine.

To sum up again: of course you can apply notions of true or false to dominance and submission. Suggesting you cannot bears a considerable burden of proof which I have yet to see produced by anyone in contrast to what I have experienced, and the argument incurred almost always does inevitably lead one to the subject of truth itself. Saying there's truth here but no truth there is the thing that doesn't make any sense. It might be harder to find sometimes, but it's always there, somewhere.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:27:38 PM

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We are what we are in our own minds as in life, some are know-it-alls, some just curious, etc etc. It's just a name, just a title, do what you will with it lol

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RE: There's no such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:45:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

To speak of "true" and "false" dominance is pure gibberish to me. It's what's called a "category mistake" in philosophy.

Strange, because from my vantage point, it is your stance which not only seems like pure gibberish, but breeds an unending line of it, too.

"Philosophy: A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing."

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RE: There's no such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:48:12 PM

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Yeah, OK, your method of presenting an argument is to declare your belief and repeat as necessary. Eventually the other person will surely tire.

I'm done with this one.

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RE: There's no such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:49:58 PM

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Yeah, OK, your method of presenting an argument is to declare your belief and repeat as necessary. Eventually the other person will surely tire.

I'm done with this one.

Pot. Kettle.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/25/2007 6:57:31 PM

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Dear, you are so angry. The profile leaves little to any imagination.
I do have a catch all phase for you, though.
If told or asked to submit to any you run across, simply say,
" I may be a slave/submissive, but Im not your slave/submissive."
The only truth is, is only be true to yourself.
RP

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/26/2007 6:47:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: awmslave

PS. Frquent us of "f" word does not fit a submissive character.

What about the word "fuck" doesn't "fit" a submissive character?

It's a word, submission is an action, submissive is a personallity... no where have I ever seen that a submissive can't be agressive at times.

Plus I have know men who have a fetish for women swearing... if a Top/ Dom wants his submissive to swear isn't it there for submissive for that person to use that word?

Shylah

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/26/2007 6:53:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: RopePrincess

Dear, you are so angry. The profile leaves little to any imagination.
I do have a catch all phase for you, though.
If told or asked to submit to any you run across, simply say,
" I may be a slave/submissive, but Im not your slave/submissive."
The only truth is, is only be true to yourself.
RP

I didn't want my profile to be so angry... I have tried sevral times to make it a happy calm profile. But even now I get anoying, what I call "kink spam", messages from "doms" totaly ignoring what I had said about being owned.

It's gotten to the point where I wrote that profile.

I'm willing to ignor most when I'm just brousing throgh profiles, but when they message me saying, "I've read your profile and don'y care..." It makes me mad.

So I decided to be very clear with what I am intrested in and what I'm not.

Shylah

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/26/2007 8:48:07 AM

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But why do you allow them to annoy you? You are responsible for your own feelings and by letting such postings get to you, you are already submitting to their whims by having them provoke a reaction.
Ignore the posts and either block them or just don't respond and bin them. You will find yourself far more able to submit to the person you want to submit to when your not caving into an annoying minority. True and real are subjective and do exist. Just don;t get caught up in someonelses version and follow your own head.

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/26/2007 12:20:27 PM

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i suppose to some it may mean that they know, deep in their hearts that they are slaves. And this stirring only manifested itself when called by the One, my Master

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/30/2007 5:59:58 PM

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you mustof never served a real Master,or Mistress, a real one care`s more for the sub/slave,,willing to go past the bedroom,or rack, a true one will make it a point to know they`re property,,talk to them, listen to the feedback, any master who refuses it, to listen to his, her sub, is no real one,

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/30/2007 7:07:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: hawkk777

you mustof never served a real Master,or Mistress, a real one care`s more for the sub/slave,,willing to go past the bedroom,or rack, a true one will make it a point to know they`re property,,talk to them, listen to the feedback, any master who refuses it, to listen to his, her sub, is no real one,

Might you direct me to the Cracker Jack box in which you found the Acme "MasterDectoMeter"?

John

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RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" ... - 6/30/2007 9:29:48 PM

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I am new to this lifestyle and I am currently being considered by a master. In our discussions concerning our relationship we often share our likes and dislikes. He often tells me what he expects from me, and things that he would never do to me or force me to do. I really appreciate this and when I finally don his collar it will be with the knowledge that I belong to a truly great man, and I will do everything possible to make him feel like the powerful master he deserves to be. Am I on the right track to being a true slave.

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