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RE: using me? how about using yourself! - 6/14/2005 12:28:48 PM

biflover327

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WAKE UP! There is no other way to say this because either your getting off on all this attention and have no intention of changing who,s taking us all on a ride, or your a complaining proffesional victim and stupid brain dead mental pain slut.

Its very simple: You bought into being a slut slave for a master where you will be used for masters pleasure in every way with trust (without trust there is nothing) where you will derive pleasure from his pleasure of using your body and mind in every exquisite and perverted way or scene he so chooses, even assisting him to debauch another female for his pleasure would not be out of line, as long as he communicates with you this desire, knowing at the end of the day/night your still his slut cunt slave where he will be proud of your work in assisting in his pleasure, as you will be proud and take pleasure in assisting.

What you have right now is not what you bought into, he has renegged on everything except for using you for all the wrong reasons, with lies and uses false promisses, your the free roof over his head, your his piggy bank, work slave ,bill payer,bar bill, and he dosent even use your body for his pleasure or yours.

Hon, hate to say this but your not living a life of a valuble loved slut, slave, but living a life of a looser at the hands of a user, throw his ass out now, since your getting nothing out of this, then you have nothing to loose, but the looser, PM me if you would like to talk further. I may even have a position for you depending on your sensuallity!

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RE: using me? how about using yourself! - 6/14/2005 1:01:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: biflover327

WAKE UP! There is no other way to say this because either your getting off on all this attention and have no intention of changing or your a complaining proffesional victim and stupid brain dead mental pain slut who,s taking us all for a ride.

With all due respect, one is none of the above, and one is not taking anyone for a ride.

one needed help, and one asked for help. The number of responses, the kind words, and the support have helped this one more than any of you will ever know. The fact that so many took time out of their busy lives to either respond on the forum, or send one a message, means so very much. It shows that there are people out there who do care, and one has been very touched by the responses. It has come at a time in one's life when she needed this, at a time when she has felt alone and lost.

one believes that this support has given her the strength and courage to end this. The words that have been spoken show one that it is OK for her to have feelings and needs, and that many of the things that she has been taught served only one purpose - to make her believe that she could not and should not ever leave her Master.

Hugs to everyone who has shown this one such kindness ..................................

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RE: using me? how about using yourself! - 6/14/2005 1:07:04 PM

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Why are you suddenly typing in third person singular?

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RE: using me? - 6/14/2005 1:47:37 PM

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Sometimes I see stuff on these boards that is so idealized, so flowery, so out of touch with the realities of real life I want to puke! It's nice to see someone with a realistic take on things!

i agree 100%

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RE: using me? - 6/14/2005 2:20:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: perverseangelic

I mostly understood what you're saying, I think we just have opposing viewpoints.

As I see it, one in the given situation hasn't failed as a slave, because one has ceased to be owned. The owner, in becoming abusive, ceases to be an owner and loses that slave's obligation of ownership.

I do see what you're saying. It's just not the veiwpoint I, myself, hold.

greetings....

No. He is still her owner. She loses nothing until she is no longer his slave.

Even though her Master may have become abusive, he is still her Master. She is still owned. To be not owned he must either release her (by his choice or her begging release) or she must choose to be Free instead of slave and thus end the ownership by failing as a slave. Slaves don't have the freedom to choose that rejection of ownership requires, therefore to unilaterally reject ownership, she must fail at being a slave and thus become Free. I note that here I am mostly talking mechanics and the theory of ownership, rather than whether or not failing is good or bad. We have already had that discussion.

Now, if she fails, exactly when that failure occurs...that is something else. Is it when she decides to fail, or when she acts on that decision. I would say it is the latter. You do or you do not to quote Yoda. You do not fail when you think of failing, only when you act on that decision.

be well....

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RE: using me? - 6/14/2005 2:41:12 PM

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If to be owned one needs a Master/Mistress, how can one be owned by someone who is neither?

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RE: using me? how about using yourself! - 6/14/2005 2:46:29 PM

Oumae

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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

Why are you suddenly typing in third person singular?

That started a few posts back and as sanita noticed was started by Time Out who surprisingly has no profile.

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RE: using me? - 6/14/2005 2:59:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Malkinius
No. He is still her owner. She loses nothing until she is no longer his slave.

Even though her Master may have become abusive, he is still her Master. She is still owned. To be not owned he must either release her (by his choice or her begging release) or she must choose to be Free instead of slave and thus end the ownership by failing as a slave. Slaves don't have the freedom to choose that rejection of ownership requires, therefore to unilaterally reject ownership, she must fail at being a slave and thus become Free. I note that here I am mostly talking mechanics and the theory of ownership, rather than whether or not failing is good or bad. We have already had that discussion.

Well, I disagree. I believe in what I said before. But, different strokes, eh?

I'm content to operate under a different set of understandings. Still, thank you for clearly articulating your possition.

(edited because collarme is suddenly being insane)

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RE: using me? - 6/14/2005 3:09:15 PM

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randbcouple, thank you, someone had to say it,

she says she is still his slave, (still living in fantasy land)but she complained he stopped being her master many moons ago, he is the one that has failed in his obligations as her master, he has infact abandoned her, (let the asshole wanabe go live under a bridge!)therefor she no longer has any obligation for other than herself.

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RE: using me? - 6/14/2005 4:41:50 PM

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one trusted that He was teaching her as a good Master, not that He was brainwashing her into believing most of his (excuse the term) crap.
and in a later post:
and that many of the things that she has been taught served only one purpose - to make her believe that she could not and should not ever leave her Master.

The term "crap" is just fine, and you can feel free to use stronger terms. It's just nice to see that you're overcoming some of the bad programming and recognizing it for what it was.

Something to consider is the after-effects of having your mind fucked with. There was probably enough that your master told you that was ok and made sense so when he slipped in the bullshit you accepted it. So you can't just toss everything he said; instead you have to sort through it and toss just the bs and you may not recognize it at first glance. That's gonna take a while and there may be times where you feel confused while some of the bad programming is still in effect. But don't worry because eventually it'll all wear off, you'll be fine, and it'll be nothing more than an unpleasant memory.

Good luck!

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RE: using me? - 6/21/2005 4:08:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: Oumae

If to be owned one needs a Master/Mistress, how can one be owned by someone who is neither?

Oumae

Exactly.

sweet80525, I am coming late to the party (story of my life *sigh*) but the man you describe is not Dominant, he's a spineless, manipulative predator.

A wise man* once said, "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

Something to think about.

Good luck.

*Philip K. Dick.

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RE: using me? - 6/24/2005 2:36:35 PM

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I'll make this short.
He decieved you, he lied to you, he used you and he manipulated you. This is not a Master, this is nothing more than human filth. It's your house... kick him out. You owe him nothing, he failed, you did not.

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RE: using me? how about using yourself! - 6/26/2005 6:32:57 AM

susan78745

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ORIGINAL: sweet80525

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ORIGINAL: biflover327

WAKE UP! There is no other way to say this because either your getting off on all this attention and have no intention of changing or your a complaining proffesional victim and stupid brain dead mental pain slut who,s taking us all for a ride.

With all due respect, one is none of the above, and one is not taking anyone for a ride.

one needed help, and one asked for help. The number of responses, the kind words, and the support have helped this one more than any of you will ever know. The fact that so many took time out of their busy lives to either respond on the forum, or send one a message, means so very much. It shows that there are people out there who do care, and one has been very touched by the responses. It has come at a time in one's life when she needed this, at a time when she has felt alone and lost.

one believes that this support has given her the strength and courage to end this. The words that have been spoken show one that it is OK for her to have feelings and needs, and that many of the things that she has been taught served only one purpose - to make her believe that she could not and should not ever leave her Master.

Hugs to everyone who has shown this one such kindness ..................................

Sweet, I just had to tell my *ahem* dominant to leave after 4 years. I kept thinking what he says sounds right but his actions didnt match up. I kept thinking it was me, I was not doing good enough, treating him good enough but then My gut was telling me something else. So I was confused all the time. I believed what he said but I knew it was wrong. Hes good at using words *VERY GOOD*. He was feeding me half truths.. which to him are not lies. They are the truth with omissions. Still in the end they are truths meant to decieve me. He has a job (delivered pizza)saying he made as much as I did. That was almost true. HE spent his tip money on cigarettes (smokes 4 packs a day) and gas for his truck to deliver pizza in, so that was most of his money.(an example of his half truths) His exwife is a mean alcoholic and she is co-dependant on him to remain an alcoholic and hes co-dependant on her to feel good and that is the main reason we are broken up. He's loyalty was to her and not me. I gave him all that I had. I gave him my heart, my soul, my trust, my love, my devotion and in the end it was not enough for him.
So finally I had to tell him to leave. Right now I am hurt and still trying to figure out why I wasnt good enough for him when I know I was too good. So what I learned from this is.. The next time I feel like I'm hearing bullshit, listen to my gut CUZ IT'S RIGHT!!!. LOL So when I think I did something wrong, I just think of all the half truths and lies he told me and I know im right and im doing the right thing.
Congratulations on your realization that somethings not right and you need to leave.(its hard!)
The next Dominant(when and if your ready) will teach you his way so whatever you learned.. throw it out! Work on you. Thats what Im doing and I find new strength every day!

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RE: using me? - 6/26/2005 10:42:01 AM

Tormentius

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ORIGINAL: Malkinius

greetings....

No. He is still her owner. She loses nothing until she is no longer his slave.

Even though her Master may have become abusive, he is still her Master. She is still owned. To be not owned he must either release her (by his choice or her begging release) or she must choose to be Free instead of slave and thus end the ownership by failing as a slave. Slaves don't have the freedom to choose that rejection of ownership requires, therefore to unilaterally reject ownership, she must fail at being a slave and thus become Free. I note that here I am mostly talking mechanics and the theory of ownership, rather than whether or not failing is good or bad. We have already had that discussion.

Now, if she fails, exactly when that failure occurs...that is something else. Is it when she decides to fail, or when she acts on that decision. I would say it is the latter. You do or you do not to quote Yoda. You do not fail when you think of failing, only when you act on that decision.

be well....

Malkinius

No, if he is being abusive he is giving up any right to use the term master as he is obviously not even a master of himself. A person who leaves a relationship and chooses to not be abused is hardly a failure in ANY sense.

It really does help to tune into reality once in awhile Malkinus. Try it sometime.

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