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RE: i see - 6/15/2005 11:25:01 AM   
RiotGirl


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Yup whatever Emerald. think what you want to think. But seriously whatever as you have no clue who i am. All you see is what i put out here and if you think what i put out here is everything then you've alot to learn. You're wrong and thats all that matters. i've survived quite well indeed and am blessed to have some one in my life now that loves me

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RE: i see - 6/15/2005 11:27:35 AM   
RiotGirl


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Hmmmm I really don't mind that sort of thing in jest


it usually is in jest for me

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Master sees there is a problem with your drinking


So i stopped

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Especially if that type of incident gets her thrown out of the bar


Never happens.

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RE: i see - 6/15/2005 12:57:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

Yup whatever Emerald. think what you want to think. But seriously whatever as you have no clue who i am. All you see is what i put out here and if you think what i put out here is everything then you've alot to learn. You're wrong and thats all that matters. i've survived quite well indeed and am blessed to have some one in my life now that loves me

So what you said a few weeks about about me being insightful and helping you see things about yourself and grow and all that...what? Figments of your imagination?

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RE: i see - 6/15/2005 1:26:47 PM   
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The reaction you got from me, is a direct result of what you gave out as an example of yourself.

You've stopped drinking... great, I'm happy for you. I hope you stay that way.
This I gathered from other's posts, as there is apparently quite a bit of stuff edited out.... you seem to have found resolution, and help. I'm happy for you. Really...smiles..

As for the stuff about non safe....... etc. (not written by riot girl, but another) I don't care much what another's kink is. This is what I like about this whole community, we are free to have our own kinks, and hobbies.... and be left in peace with it, and acceptance.
I don't by into your kink is my kink as long as I like it to, ..thing... but when on a message board, if someone puts it out there, they get responses back. Honest ones, if you don't want honest opinionis and feedback...find someone happy to lie to you, or just make you feel good, or maybe put a clause in your post that says.... I don't want real feedback, or help... just make me feel good.

I respond directly to what people offer up. If someone posts something here they don't really wan tfeedback on... much less honest feedback, then they should perhaps find a journal to write in.


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RE: i see - 6/15/2005 3:16:08 PM   
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So what you said a few weeks about about me being insightful and helping you see things about yourself and grow and all that...what? Figments of your imagination?


You can be. But telling me i havent survived "well" is a crop of bull. And i didnt really want to get into what sort of "survival" i have survived. i didnt want to get into "my" survival and how well i have actually come out at the end of it. Didnt want to get into all of it at all. Because for the things i have gone through in my life, self inflicted and not self inflicted, i have come out very well indeed. The other fact that i've gone through it all on MY own, and still survived, is another reason why i have come out very well. Because those "AA" and "NA" people cant even get through addiction on there own, and i've gotten through that plus many other things.. yeah i'd say i've survived very well indeed. Which is why, i restate, you havent a clue

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RE: i see - 6/15/2005 3:31:14 PM   
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Tempest you didnt respond to the whole "funny" part of the message. Yall zoomed in something that was completely not the topic.

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RE: i see - 6/15/2005 3:34:46 PM   
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It is incredibly hard to follow a thread when the posts are written, rewritten and edited.

But I assume that is the whole point...

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RE: i see - 6/16/2005 8:40:14 AM   
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"Tempest you didnt respond to the whole "funny" part of the message. Yall zoomed in something that was completely not the topic."-- riotgirl


This is likely part of the problem. I am not clear what the funny part is.

If we want to talk of what we've dealt with, come through and all that.... perhaps part of my problem with alcoholics stems from daling with my uncle all of my life. He was one of those that drank to black out.... we would get kicked out of restaurants, or I would be left sitting there... I was young, and as he was and is such a complete waste of oxygen... I toted him around, especially when I lived at my grandma's for awhile. I was young, and had not grown my backbone yet. Then, one time...I'm cutting the hours of stories I can recount, from violence, at his hand, or strangers that he would pick fights with.. to visiting my grandma (he lived with here up to a month ago.. into his late 40's I might add because he an overgrown adolecent) when my oldest child was about 2. He went into a drunken rage, and while we were trying to get out and leave.... he started getting physical, with whomever was at hand... and ended with him in my face, threatening to come (when I least expected it) and kill me, my 2 yr old, and my husbnad.

In having told this, I do not want sympathy, or anything for that matter. It's just something that happened to me a long time ago. This is by far not all I've come through. And of course where I the person I am now... I'd have had him arrested, and hopefully still behind bars. But I didn't and I don't dwell on that either.

So, after that example, and that's all this was...a snippet... this is probably, well...I know... this is why I have trouble finding the humor in your story.

I'm not trying to pick on you riotgirl. And from what I can understand (and I agree that it's very hard to read this thread when you keep writing, and erasing your writings) you have quit drinking... I'm happy for you. Good luck. And I do mean that sincerely.

If I have left anything else out, please bring it to my attention... I'd be glad to clarify, or answer.


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RE: i see - 6/16/2005 11:42:49 AM   
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riot girl; i have difficulty understanding why you began this post about your experiences with drinking (and later added drugging) and then were shocked and hurt when P/pl expressed concern or even recited negative feelings about alcoholism. if you did not want the opinions of others, why not simply keep the matter to yourself? and again, i ask, out of curiousity, what on earth makes you so hostile to ppl fighting for their sobriety in AA and NA? it's a well-worn path; why insult them as weak?

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RE: i see - 6/16/2005 1:17:23 PM   
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it wasnt an experience with drinking. It was an experience WHILE drinking. It was MAJORLY funny. Okay for yall the funny part was....... the girl said her boyfriend was this small and the boyfriend said "First of all thats not my girlfriend, thats my sister and second of all i'm not that small"

THATS FUNNY. Sheesh.

Em no, fille, i was neither shocked nor hurt. i dare say non on this site have the capability to hurt me. And if you did, i either wouldnt be on the site, or saying anything personal about myself. If you had the capacity to hurt me, we wouldnt even be having this conversation. Actually the only person on collarme that has the capicity to hurt me is Master, and i have enough trust him him to know he will not. So its all good. Not even my FAMILY knows this much about me. As they've the capacity to hurt me. Now that you hopefully understand the hurt thing.

Its very difficult to shock me. Very rarely am i shocked and almost never am i shocked by others behaviors. Got that one too? What those on this site do have the capacity to do (talking negative here) is to piss me off. i got pissed off.

the reason why i went around and edited out the posts was because i felt like i was giving way too much way too personal info about myself, and it make me uncomfortable. Talking about the things i've gone though, the things i've surived and how well i have survived, is abit too personal. On top of that i got abit pissed off and started to jump up and down, so to speak, and its not called for so i edited it out.

And just to clear up why i think people in NA and AA are weak is because i have been kicking bad habits since i was 15 years old, on my own. And you're trying to tell me that these people in NA or AA arent weak because they need a whole GROUP of people to help them? Am i just special that i didnt need help? SHALL i got through my little list of the things i DIDNT need help with to overcome and you want to tell me that people NEED a GROUP of people to overcome some addiction? :: snorts :: THATS disgustingly weak. Especially if you count the fact that i got over TWO addictions at 15 ON MY OWN.

But that being said, on how i FEEL i've checked out AA and NA, have an Aunt who is a member of AA. And i'm glad there is a program like that out there. Because heck, if they do NEED it, then so be it. Also, i have found out that i do actually need someone. LOL Which if you can guess from my ramblings, is abit disconcerting.

EDITED TO :: Cut out all my LONG ramblings

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RE: i see - 6/16/2005 1:23:30 PM   
RiotGirl


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Heya Tempest. Sorry to hear what you went through. i kno i kno no pity, no nothing. i feel the same way. Usually that sort of stuff just pisses me off LOL

i think you clarified pretty well. The story touched a special issue in you, which is why you reacted the way you did.

Yeah i quit drinking. The last of my two bad habits. My LAST bad habit is smoking. GOOD golly now that makes me nervous = ) Not only the physical withdrawl, which i heard can be worse then others.. but the mental (whines) This'll sound pathetic, but no matter what has gone on in my life, no matter where i was, or what happened, i ALWAYS had a cigeratte there. LOLOL They're my special little buddies.

Oh and i dont need luck with the drinking. i could care less about it really. Honestly i only used it as an emotional release. When life got too tough, or my boxed up emotions started to over flow, i released em. Lucky for me, Master has taught me 1. Not to box them up and 2. better ways to release them.

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RE: i see - 6/16/2005 1:28:36 PM   
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well, i appreciate your admitting NA and AA are solid programs and help ppl, riot girl. i also admire you for not taking anything said here personally -- though it seemed that way. i guess it's just not possible to fully understand people through writings.

the main thing is i am happy you are sober, riot girl, however it came about, and wish you well.

fillepink




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RE: i see - 6/16/2005 1:38:31 PM   
RiotGirl


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LOL i missed what you wrote as i was still editing = ) Yeah i think they are good programs. Solid programs, for those that need it. LOLOL Drives my Aunt nuts that i dont. i am definetly not one to "understand" from what i write, as i do tend to leave alot out. i selectively write and when i write too much, well i edit it LOLOL. i get pissed off, which i suppose can be taken as its being taken personal, but nah. Its only personal if it has direct contact with my life. And none of you do = ) Its not whats being said that usually pisses me off, its whats behind their motivations that piss me, IE not the words, the behavior = )

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RE: i see - 6/17/2005 10:53:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

the reason why i went around and edited out the posts was because i felt like i was giving way too much way too personal info about myself, and it make me uncomfortable. Talking about the things i've gone though, the things i've surived and how well i have survived, is abit too personal. On top of that i got abit pissed off and started to jump up and down, so to speak, and its not called for so i edited it out.

RiotGirl,
I have notice that you have edited and re-written in other threads too.
Maybe a good idea would be to write things down in a journal and let it sit for a day or so and then go back and re-read it and then make a dicision if you want to write it here in the Fora.
Look at the pros and cons of your words and the possible reactions from people here, as you know you never know what people are going to gleam from what you have written and you also know they are going to "call it as they see it".
Not being so spontanious in your posting and instead pausing to reflect on what you have written may help you edit and reveal only what you really feel comfortable with before you actually post..
Then you have to let go of wanting to control the answers you get, because that is just not possible.

Take Care,


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