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RealBlackGoddess -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 8:51:11 AM)

I'm not sure I'd call it a mantra but I did have my slave recite an "oath" (again, maybe not the right term) everyday while kneeling at my feet. An acrostic where each line begin with the letters of my scene name (BlackGoddess) - he composed it himself.




imthatacheyouhav -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 8:53:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: abnormalme

What I'm looking for are Good slave Mantras that a slave can listen to while in the house, dungeon or caged & confined. What I'm thinking of here is having a looped recording that a slave can listen to through earphones.

In case you don't understand what a looped recording is, it's where the recording plays continuously until shut off and the slave would hear the same Mantra or group of Mantras separated by periods of silence.

Does anyone know of any Good slave Mantras or know where I'd find Good slave Mantras that reinforces a slaves commitment to its slavery?

Thank you
Master George


This is me biting my tongue....




RealBlackGoddess -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 8:56:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic


You never want to create a mantra in the negative, like her "I will not go insane I will not go insane". The mind does not hear the not, and only focuses on "insane". A proper mantra for that example would be "I AM mentally stable, calm and rational", or something to that effect. This part is really important for anyone who wants to make up their own mantra. Always make it a positive statement; what you want to happen, not a negative statement, what you are trying to stop doing.

Namaste, Sir Dominic


That's good advice. *off to proofread My slave's oath*




AquaticSub -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 9:21:40 AM)


I've never heard of mantras being used like this before... but I would probably go nuts if forced to listen it all the time. That or Valyraen would come home to find me chanting "Master may not always be right, but he is never wrong. Master may not always be right, but he is never wrong. Master may not always be right, but he is never wrong... " over and over while I debated what the punishment would be for destroying the tape. [:D]

I think it might be useful for an hour or so of mediatation. Depends on what was being said and who was listening. You would probably be better off making your own since the things that apply to one slave don't apply to all slaves.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 9:45:19 AM)

I have Angel remind himself that he is my little girl, I ask him and he know what answer I expect.  That is our ritual.  I am working on one for Kitten as well, so when we are separated when he is off a school, he will have his reminder. Both boys have songs tat they are free to listen to as often, or as infrequently as they want, that are associated with our sessions. I play the songs in the background when we play, always the same songs so that the mental association is there. If they feel the need for a reminder, if they are simply mising me, or if they are trying to get their heads on straight before r after a meeting... they can play them. That was what worked for me, though it might not be effective for you.

A reminder should not have to be constant. If the slave finds it soothing, thats one thing, but anything other than that and it becomes nothing but a background drone that they will likely detest after a while. Consider how you would feel being forced to listen to something playing over and over constantly to remind you how to be a Master?

Rather than looking elsewhere for what will work, talk to the slave in question.  You may have to create a mantra for her/him if it is going to be a reminder. Make sure it is something that will actually have the effect you desire, and not the opposite.  Once you find a phrase or few phrases that work, try them for a period and see if it has the effect you want.  If so, then youve gotten your answer.  If not, then you may need to try an differnet approach.

DV






Wildfleurs -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 9:53:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: abnormalme

What I'm looking for are Good slave Mantras that a slave can listen to while in the house, dungeon or caged & confined. What I'm thinking of here is having a looped recording that a slave can listen to through earphones.

In case you don't understand what a looped recording is, it's where the recording plays continuously until shut off and the slave would hear the same Mantra or group of Mantras separated by periods of silence.

Does anyone know of any Good slave Mantras or know where I'd find Good slave Mantras that reinforces a slaves commitment to its slavery?

Thank you
Master George



My owner wrote a prayer years ago that was part of a daily ritual for a few years.  I would suggest you write it from scratch rather than look for a pre-fab mantra on a website.

C~




SirDominic -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 10:18:19 AM)

Ahhhh, that explains it. Thank you. You really had me confused! I have sent you a posting primer privately.

Namaste, Sir Dominic




Celeste43 -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 11:10:52 AM)

If I didn't feel submissive to him, then being forced to unwillingly hear his voice tell me to feel submissive would only make me concentrate more on refusing to submit. I submit in response to his domination. If he didn't dominate, then no matter what I was listening to  I still wouldn't feel submissive.




nearnyccouple -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 11:40:14 AM)

exactly.  thank you celeste for better expressing what i was trying to say.  [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m9.gif[/image]
 
cassie




MagiksSlave -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 11:51:25 AM)

HMM i think it is very different haveing a montra as an inserational tool that one can think about even reapeat a few times a day, it is quite another to have it on a repeating loup locking a slave in  cage and forsing her to listen to it over and over and over and over... and given his other thread started here on subliminal messages done the same way for the same reason one would have to think that there are uinderlieing problems. Why would he need to use subliminal messages to make his slave be a slave... it is eather something you are and want to be or it isnt and if it isnt all the submilinal messages in the world are not going to make one a slave they may make one act like one (if subliminal messages work) but if one doesnt have the want to be a slave or a slave heart then it really is little more then brainwashing. if you need to use stuff like that to make someone a slave then they arent a slave to begin with and you have real issues with the relationship as well as the need to try and make someone something they are not.

Magik's slave




MagiksSlave -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 11:54:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic


Finally, MagiksSlave was making a joke, but what she said is important to note on how NOT to create a mantra. You never want to create a mantra in the negative, like her "I will not go insane I will not go insane". The mind does not hear the not, and only focuses on "insane". A proper mantra for that example would be "I AM mentally stable, calm and rational", or something to that effect. This part is really important for anyone who wants to make up their own mantra. Always make it a positive statement; what you want to happen, not a negative statement, what you are trying to stop doing.

Namaste, Sir Dominic


LOL yeah i was only jokeing Im not one that beleaves that montras should be nessisery, eather I feel submissive to someone and give it my all or I dont and I walk away. But you are right negatives tend to get washed out by the mind, though I dont think even if you said I will go insane a million times that it would become the case... in fact since most of us are insane to begin with it wouldnt make much of a difference!! LOL

Magik's slave




KnightofMists -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 12:18:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: nearnyccouple

 it was in response to another poster who called me ignorant and judgemental.


Another Poster here!!!!!!!  It's seems you are having another misunderstanding....  Just so you are clear and avoid further misunderstandings.

I didn't call you Ignorant....  I reflected that you are Ignorant of the concept of using Mantra's.. which you yourself admit in not understanding.

Secondly, I never called you Judgemental... I refleccted that you express a Judgement (negative one at that) on concept that you don't understand.

So to restate....

"Your Ignorance on this concept is rather apparent... but yet it doesn't stop you from making a judgement of it"

and I will add that your defensiveness only futher supports my own judgement/opinion on your judgement/opinion on the subject.





KnightofMists -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 12:21:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDominic

Mantras are a powerful tool, and they are widely misunderstood in the population at large. The words cult and kink have been attached to it, and neither are accurate. Wanting the use of a mantra does not mean there are more serious issues involved, nor does it mean that someone is not who they are supposed to be in the relationship.

Mantras, simply put, are a tool. A tool for training the mind. I suppose you could call it a kind of brainwashing, but it is self brainwashing, not being perpetrated on you by some evil cult leader.



Nice balanced view...   There are a tool and like any tool it is only as good as the skill of the user as well as a person's motivation in it's use.  It also is a tool that may work for some and not others.




nearnyccouple -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 1:51:06 PM)

knight, are you not posting messages here? I said poster not poser. If you post messages to a forum it is possible that you could be called a poster. If you read poser then I could give you the prescription that my Master uses for his reading glasses. It might help. Now, as for my misunderstanding. All through out this thread I have never claimed to understand the necessity nor the complexities involved in mantras. From my understanding of the definition of the word and other thoughts posted here I do not believe that I would find them in my Masters' "tool bag". I am secure in who I am, who I serve and how this is accomplished. I, and Master has echoed his thoughts to me, do not find them a necessary part of our lives. For the record, Master uses mantra's in his daily religious meditations. But to have a mantra to explain who I am, what I am, who I belong to and why all of this is good for me is not only, again note the following words, IN MY OPINION unnecessary and ludicrous. Now, I understand the condescending tone used is one you feel is your way of leading me to knowledge but I will bet someone in your past has used this phrase "you can get more with honey than with vinegar" Perhaps this could be a new mantra  tool for you.
cassie





KnightofMists -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 2:57:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: nearnyccouple

knight, are you not posting messages here? I said poster not poser. If you post messages to a forum it is possible that you could be called a poster. If you read poser then I could give you the prescription that my Master uses for his reading glasses. It might help.


mmmmmmm "poser" mmmmmmm I don't believe anyone used that word until you used it.... and not sure why you would.

to quote my words

quote:

Another Poster here!!!!!!! 
  mmmmm hope you cleaned your foot before you stuck it in.  and my reading glasses work just fine... but obviously yours doesn't.

quote:


Now, as for my misunderstanding. All through out this thread I have never claimed to understand the necessity nor the complexities involved in mantras. From my understanding of the definition of the word and other thoughts posted here I do not believe that I would find them in my Masters' "tool bag". I am secure in who I am, who I serve and how this is accomplished. I, and Master has echoed his thoughts to me, do not find them a necessary part of our lives. For the record, Master uses mantra's in his daily religious meditations. But to have a mantra to explain who I am, what I am, who I belong to and why all of this is good for me is not only, again note the following words, IN MY OPINION unnecessary and ludicrous.


mmmmmm rather defensive are you... I wonder why?

quote:


Now, I understand the condescending tone used is one you feel is your way of leading me to knowledge


You understand,do you!? mmmmm I think you give yourself to much credit in knowing my motivations....

quote:


but I will bet someone in your past has used this phrase "you can get more with honey than with vinegar" Perhaps this could be a new mantra  tool for you.


mmmmmmm you seem to assume I am trying to get something....  Granted.. if someone wants something.. sometimes honey is useful approach.  However, Vinegar can be equally effective to obtain what a person wants in some cases.

I do believe that Vinegar has been very effective to achieve my motivation in this given situation




nearnyccouple -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 3:20:09 PM)

to quote my Master; chuckling; end quote. When I spoke to him regarding what I wrote in my last post he advised me that you would take great exception and expend lots of energy to nitpick almost every sentence and apply their own emotional status to typed words instead of taking them at face value and respecting the opinions of others. And lo and behold you did exactly as he predicted. And so keeping within his instructions, I am simply to pat you on the head and acknowledge that you are free to believe and speak as you wish and that I am not responsible for your chosing to filter my words through your emotional chaos. And if you wish to further the chaos, direct your words to him. And that I am to be pleased that I was able to afford you this opportunity to flex your "dominance"
cassie




KnightofMists -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 4:07:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: nearnyccouple

to quote my Master; chuckling; end quote. When I spoke to him regarding what I wrote in my last post he advised me that you would take great exception and expend lots of energy to nitpick almost every sentence and apply their own emotional status to typed words instead of taking them at face value and respecting the opinions of others. And lo and behold you did exactly as he predicted. And so keeping within his instructions, I am simply to pat you on the head and acknowledge that you are free to believe and speak as you wish and that I am not responsible for your chosing to filter my words through your emotional chaos. And if you wish to further the chaos, direct your words to him. And that I am to be pleased that I was able to afford you this opportunity to flex your "dominance"
cassie


LMAO... take great exception.. expend energy...  LMAO... 

PS... added last minute thought.. and the energy for this one as competely drained me *w*.....

I suppose for some.. they put alot emotions and energy into what occurs on these boards... and others not so much.....

Ironically.. the number of words or quality of words doesn't actually give a valuable measure with regards to emotions and energy committed.  Sometimes one can commit great emotions and energy with just a few words... and other times... many words can be of little emotionally commit or energy exerted.

wow... I think I need a rest.




pyrobabe -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/28/2007 10:31:57 PM)

Ok, Master and I have a lot of experience with mantras, affirmations and hypnosis so we will try and tell you everything we can, while making it as short as possible.

My Masters thoughts are:
1) Make a list of all the things you want your slave to learn.or change
2) Emphasis their strengths and eliminate their negatives.
3) To eliminate their negatives ALWAYS make the statements 100% positive.
4) Use subliminals underneath music like classical or soundscape music, no lyrics.
5) Use Audacity (Free) and Subliminal Recording Systems (Pay) to tweek the audio.
6) Master makes me set up the System and then records the subliminal himself.
7) Playing the music he makes me chant switch words.
8) Together, Devine, Love

If you need more info
Sir Rand or Pyrobabe






MzMia -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/29/2007 2:50:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDominic

Mantras are a powerful tool, and they are widely misunderstood in the population at large. The words cult and kink have been attached to it, and neither are accurate. Wanting the use of a mantra does not mean there are more serious issues involved, nor does it mean that someone is not who they are supposed to be in the relationship.

Mantras, simply put, are a tool. A tool for training the mind. I suppose you could call it a kind of brainwashing, but it is self brainwashing, not being perpetrated on you by some evil cult leader.

To answer the OP's question, I don't know of any such book. I would try a search for "slave mantras" and combinations like that on Google and see what comes up.

Finally, MagiksSlave was making a joke, but what she said is important to note on how NOT to create a mantra. You never want to create a mantra in the negative, like her "I will not go insane I will not go insane". The mind does not hear the not, and only focuses on "insane". A proper mantra for that example would be "I AM mentally stable, calm and rational", or something to that effect. This part is really important for anyone who wants to make up their own mantra. Always make it a positive statement; what you want to happen, not a negative statement, what you are trying to stop doing.

Namaste, Sir Dominic


Stated eloquently as usual, Sir Dominic!
It is possible to learn and grow a lot on this board, IF you are open to learning and growing.
I LOVE the idea of having and using mantras, I totally believe in them.
What you say and what you think----> becomes what you are.
I am now in the process of creating a few mantras for my future submissive.
It is a powerful tool and a real way of connecting.


Example-- I WILL worship and love MzMia![;)]
now just say this 30 times morning and evening!




littledove00 -> RE: Does Anyone Have slave Mantras? (6/29/2007 3:19:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tangldupinblue

i'm required to send by text message my words to Daddy every hour during the work day, it makes me stop and take a minute to rememeber who i am and it really helps to ground me for those few minutes.....for me it helps.

blue


my significant others would kill me if i annoyed them that much during the course of a day.




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