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Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:00:02 AM

Mastermozilla

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I am a Male Supremacist and I was wondering about Dommes and the idea of a money slave. I think if you have a slave or slaves you actually need a relationship with them not just them giving you stuff. I would like to know are there any money slaves and if so why do you allow yourself to give all your money away for the chance to never meet your domme. Owners and slaves need relationships not just giving money away.

-TheNotSoExtremeMaleSupremacist

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:03:56 AM

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Basically some people just use the lifestyle as an excuse to be greedy. I have met some slaves like this, they do it because they have 2 much $$ to burn.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:06:29 AM

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Out of curiousity, why bother mentioning that you are a male supremacist?

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:08:01 AM

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Yeah it seems like alot of those dommes and I dont know about men because yeah alot of Male Supremacists want all the money from their slaves if their working but they also wan the relationshop like me. I just wish fakers who just want money would not hard the aspect of a wonderful Owner slave relationship.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:09:15 AM

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I guess just saying that I am on the whole other side of whats happening in what im asking about. It might not have been the best thing to just come out and say but oh well.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:10:18 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla

I am a Male Supremacist and I was wondering about Dommes and the idea of a money slave. I think if you have a slave or slaves you actually need a relationship with them not just them giving you stuff. I would like to know are there any money slaves and if so why do you allow yourself to give all your money away for the chance to never meet your domme. Owners and slaves need relationships not just giving money away.

-TheNotSoExtremeMaleSupremacist

I'm a fem sub who isn't a money slave but to me this is no different then believing either gender is magically better. It just someone's kink. Neither one makes a lot of sense (ok the gender thing doesn't make a bit of sense to me, since I've outwitted and out-fought quite a few men), but at least a money slave does have something to it that makes sense to me - having your slave go out, "work the fields" and give you the reward is pretty traditional when it comes to slaves.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:12:05 AM

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out of curiosity, why should you care?

if someone enjoys paying a Domme, that's between "a & b" and the person's money. you should "c" your way out and leave well enough alone.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:13:19 AM

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quote:

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out of curiosity, why should you care?

if someone enjoys paying a Domme, that's between "a & b" and the person's money. you should "c" your way out and leave well enough alone.

Because they are evil fakers and are polluting his lifestyle? *halo*

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:17:25 AM

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For some people, financial domination is a fetish. It excites them to give money to a Female. It excites them to be used in this manner. I don't see it as any better or worse that humiliation play and getting off on being used sexually. It's simply another way to control someone and can be done in a manner that is healthy.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:19:14 AM

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Well the majority of Mistress/male slaves I have met, they have a similar set up, they don't own any possessions, but have a good solid foundation and relationship. in one he is a slave, but he does the bill paying, (she can't do math well at all.) and has authority over that dept.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:20:32 AM

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No im saying it does not seem like they are either representing bdsm in a good way. The other the subs are really being taken avantage of. And I feel that a true Owner and slave relationship has to do with an actual relationship not just payment to lets say a ring around a foot. Yes if you are with the female and she dominates you and you still pay her thats good. But I have a problem when you are paying someone for very little from afar. Meet dont just pay for nothing.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:21:27 AM

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Presuming that either gender is "supreme" (and I've seen no evidence of such), is it safe to say that on the basis of observation alone, not all supremacists are equal? After all, some just don't seem to measure up.

And if so, what does that do to the entire theory (and self-declaration) of supremacy?

I'm feeling a bit confused... dang... what does that say about my own lot in life?

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:23:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

For some people, financial domination is a fetish. It excites them to give money to a Female. It excites them to be used in this manner. I don't see it as any better or worse that humiliation play and getting off on being used sexually. It's simply another way to control someone and can be done in a manner that is healthy.

Master Fire

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:23:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla

I am a Male Supremacist and I was wondering about Dommes and the idea of a money slave. I think if you have a slave or slaves you actually need a relationship with them not just them giving you stuff. I would like to know are there any money slaves and if so why do you allow yourself to give all your money away for the chance to never meet your domme. Owners and slaves need relationships not just giving money away.

-TheNotSoExtremeMaleSupremacist

First off all, I certainly hope that no one is or would be naive enough to give away all of their money just for a chance to meet some Domme...that would be very dangerous and short-sighted. But secondarily, why is it considered a bad thing for a Domme to want to be in financial control of the relationship? And why does your question presume that no relationship exists in these type of arrangements? The type of financial control I am talking about is for the Female Head of the relationship to know exactly what is going on financially within the relationship at all times and to carefully manage and control those finances. I'm not sure what is wrong with that. And I do not advocate that a slave necessarily has no money of his own. A slave should have at the very least a savings account which could be used for relocation, etc in case the relationship fails and the slave is released from service. And/or whatever other practical considerations there may be. All money matters should be discussed at length before the parties enter into a power-exchange relationship.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:23:04 AM

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I just feel that a real life relationship or a good relationship is best in the bdsm lifestyle. Good meaning like online talking and chatting unlike some people ive seen on other sites where a woman will not allow the slave to talk to her because he does not have 3 jobs.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:24:52 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla

No im saying it does not seem like they are either representing bdsm in a good way. The other the subs are really being taken avantage of. And I feel that a true Owner and slave relationship has to do with an actual relationship not just payment to lets say a ring around a foot. Yes if you are with the female and she dominates you and you still pay her thats good. But I have a problem when you are paying someone for very little from afar. Meet dont just pay for nothing.

If you persist in the use of relative terms such as "good" and "true", one might begin to question your own veracity.

John

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:25:16 AM

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*smacks own ass with Daddy's paddle* i keep forgetting that ...maybe this is why i'll never be a twue submissive

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:26:11 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla

No im saying it does not seem like they are either representing bdsm in a good way. The other the subs are really being taken avantage of. And I feel that a true Owner and slave relationship has to do with an actual relationship not just payment to lets say a ring around a foot. Yes if you are with the female and she dominates you and you still pay her thats good. But I have a problem when you are paying someone for very little from afar. Meet dont just pay for nothing.

Unfortantely, you lack the authority to decide what constitutes "being taken advantage of" for anyone but yourself and perhaps your slave.

According to many women, Valyraen takes advantage of me. They, fortunately, lack the authority to decide this. Only I get to decide what taking advantage of me is. Just as only they get to decide what taking advantage of them is. And if they want to support their Mistresses by going out to work and sending them all the money they can afford to send, if makes them happy, if they are not being deceived...

Then they are not being taken advantage of. They know exactly what they are getting. Be it phone calls, webcam displays, they know exactly what they are doing. And they love it.

And frankly, as far the words "true" and "fake" goes, I believe it speaks volumes of the user. There is no "true" way, there are many ways. If Tony over here gets his rocks off by sending money to a bitch who calls him nasty names over the webcam, it's just not your place to tell him he shouldn't.

Now if someone is using deception - they are really a 56 year old man when they say they are a 24 year old woman - then it's a scam. That is being taken advantage of. Otherwise... these people know what they doing, they know what they getting into - and they seem to love it.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:26:30 AM

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Yeah MistressNoName I totally agree and that is the right relationship. And yes I do believe a slave should have a savings account. What im talking about are slaves who give away money to someone either they have never met or will never meet. Like on here they say never send money to another country I feel you need to meet to give the money away to someone who really exists not someone who dont know if they are real or not.

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RE: Money Slaves - 6/29/2007 8:29:53 AM

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Ok, (OP) you are generalizing too much. I suspect that considering you are a male supremacist, it is blocking you from understanding why a woman and a man would have this relationship. As for twue (true.) Dom/Domme's and twue submissives, thats in the eye of the beholder now isn't it?

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