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hey philo,
i congratulate you. you are one of the very few ive seen here who can actually :cordially: disagree .
i wish more here were capable . so much of what is disagreed upon is opinion, and not fact. and the ability to allow someone else to have an opinion, with out being sarcastic or condescending is the mark of intelligence. and you my friend possess that.

Agreed.
 
Excellent thread, phil. Hmmm....

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Uncommonly common, is the notion that when you belong to one group, you tend to see the nafarious in all the others. the immigration reform bill can't be the immigration reform bill ... it has to be the scamnesty bill. The timetable to withdraw from Iraq, can't be a timetable for withdrawl, it has to be the date of surrender.
 

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okies....maybe now is the time to reveal my tentative hypothesis.
Is it possible that the viewpoints we tend to identify as right wing are sensible responses to frontier environments, and those we tend to identify as left wing sensible responses to highly developed environments? Frontiers need individuals to make them livable in........highly developed environments only work when people co-operate at fairly high levels........

Thus, when Merc and i disagree,  it's less to do with our sense of ethics and more that we are products of our respective cultures. Me from the UK......proudly stamping out wilderness for centuries.......Merc from the US, land of the free and home to the brave, the big wide sky.

Oh, so right-wingers are hillbillies, and leftists are city-sophisticates......

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Oh, so right-wingers are hillbillies, and leftists are city-sophisticates......
 

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I strongly resent your misuse of the term "Social Security" -- I paid into the system all of my working life - and now am retired using the funds as promised. Why do so many think that the SS system is "working the system"? It's Paid insurance, and yes, it's in trouble, because the administrations of both parties have depleted it by misuse of the funds. It's also a fact that many slackers are relying on the gov't to support them - and that's wrong, whether you are right or left of center politically. Beware of extremists on either side of the fence.

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There are those that seem to value a system where solutions will find themselves, given enough room. This manifests in a attitude that the free market and open competition will be the best solution to any problem, and when you remove competition, or overly regulate it, the baby will be thrown out with the bath water. This point of view can be disputed, or supported.
 
This is where the lack of "trust" from some on the left comes in; they see what you just posted as a cover for greed, rather than a legitimate viewpoint.


Massive offensive comment: About 99% of people can't debate or discuss ... they can only speak in buzz words.
 
Offensive, perhaps, but a lot of truth in it. I'd only argue the percentage, saying maybe 70%?

 
Again, a very good post.
 
You did pretty damn good yourself, caitlyn.

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Oh, so right-wingers are hillbillies, and leftists are city-sophisticates......
 
Just kidding!
 
There may indeed be something to it, phil.........

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.where does the unwillingness to see the other sides point of view come from? i'm not sure there is an answer to it, but.....well, we have to try.

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hey philo,
i congratulate you. you are one of the very few ive seen here who can actually :cordially: disagree .
i wish more here were capable . so much of what is disagreed upon is opinion, and not fact. and the ability to allow someone else to have an opinion, with out being sarcastic or condescending is the mark of intelligence. and you my friend possess that.

Agreed.
 
Excellent thread, phil. Hmmm....

The level of "passion" one exihibits is neither a sign of intelligence or lack of it.

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.......where does the unwillingness to see the other sides point of view come from? i'm not sure there is an answer to it, but.....well, we have to try.

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i dont remember saying passion equaled intelligence. but being able to disagree in a grown up fashion is intelligent.
but please, dont see the post as a compliment to someone...see it for what it truley is, a chance to take cheap shots at a new guy :)
enjoy wasting your energies my friends

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i dont remember saying passion equaled intelligence. but being able to disagree in a grown up fashion is intelligent.
but please, dont see the post as a compliment to someone...see it for what it truley is, a chance to take cheap shots at a new guy :)
enjoy wasting your energies my friends

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Oh, so right-wingers are hillbillies, and leftists are city-sophisticates......
 
Just kidding!
 
There may indeed be something to it, phil.........

having a family full of rednecks and hillbillies, i gotta tell ya they lean way more to the left.....

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.where does the unwillingness to see the other sides point of view come from? i'm not sure there is an answer to it, but.....well, we have to try.

The problem is that there are to many answers for it.  trying to pigeon hole this is like fitting an ocean into a 5 gallon can.

The reasons can range from
partisonship
naivity
ignorance
arrogance
personal experience
denial
better educated
less educated
incomprehension
comprehension
and on and on endlessly

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.......where does the unwillingness to see the other sides point of view come from? i'm not sure there is an answer to it, but.....well, we have to try.

Thats an easy one ... massive egos.