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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/3/2007 9:48:28 PM   
Polynikes


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You don’t need books or websites, Spankme.  I have the solution for you.  It is easy and fast to learn.  Write down all of the loving, heartfelt things that you have said to your lovers in the past.  Anytime that you would normally say “my love” say “you dirty fucking bastard” instead.  Whenever you would normally say “take me now, honey” say “stab me with your meat dagger you whoremaster” instead.  When you would normally say “make love to me now, baby” just say “murder me with cock you fucking pimp”.  Increase the volume of your pillow talk and growl through clenched teeth.  And when you climax don’t moan “oh I’m cumming Master”.  Scream at the top of your lungs “Your fucking killing me you whore-mongering son of a bitch!  Donkey punch me you sweaty fucking sasquatch!”   This is a guaranteed winner for you, Spankme.  You can thank me later.     

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/3/2007 11:41:04 PM   
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The neighbours are going to love this!

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 7:46:39 AM   
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I get the idea but...can we change the wording a bit? eeeek!!!!

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 7:54:26 AM   
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Master asked me to practice talking dirty in the mirror this week so that i would get more comfortable with doing so. i didn't practice very much and this morning when he asked me to do so while talking to him on the phone, i froze up. Now he's disappointed in me because it was obvious to him that i was disobedient. i feel horrible that i couldn't/didn't succeed in this most simple task. Looking in the mirror in general is difficult to me let alone talking to myself in it. He threatened to leave me if i couldn't comply with this small task that"s going to please him. i do want to please him! Any advise as how i can get out of my brain and just let my dirty thoughts flow without all my inhibitions?

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 8:50:55 AM   
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Hi Spankme.  My previous post was flip and it was partially intended to elicit a chuckle for those who read it, but the core message was sincere.  I truly believe that if you sit down and write on paper the things that you naturally say during sex and just sub in some dirty words that you will do fine.  At the very least it will get you out of trouble with your Dom.    Vanilla – “Oh honey, it feels so good to me when you make love to me.  I love you.” Lifestyle – “Master, I love to feel your big, throbbing cock pump in and out of my cunt.  I am yours, Master.”   I know that it will feel uncomfortable at first, but at least your Dom will see that you are making an effort.  I know that if I see that my sub/slave is making an effort, but not getting it right, I am still satisfied with her effort.   You might even want to rent some x-rated movies and just write down the phrases that you like and add them to your list.   By putting your words on paper you can be specific and effective in what you want to say.  This will also allow you to stand in front of a mirror and read the words off the paper.  Phrases in paper are evidence that you are making an effort.  If your Dom tells you to start talking dirty so that he can see your progress (like he did on the phone) you can read right off the paper.   Once you have your phrases memorized you can try step 2.  Get an x rated video and watch it with the sound off.  Masturbate with a dildo as you watch the movie.  Start reciting your phrases as you do this.  This will take you from reading words off paper with no emotion to speaking the words with passion.   If you are still having trouble you can go to step 3.  Get a tape recorder and turn it on.  Then call a 900 number for phone sex with a male operator.  Tell the operator what you are doing and I’m sure he will make an effort to work with you and help you out.  By doing this you are not just speaking phrases to a mirror or an empty room.  Now you have an interactive partner.  You should masturbate during your session and totally let yourself go.  Don't try to remember anything.  That is what the tape recorder is for.
  I guarantee you that this 3 step program will work.  Give it a try.  At the very least your BF will see that you are making a worthy effort to please him.  I hope that this does help you.  Please keep me posted on your progress if it is not too much trouble.   With the utmost sincerity,   Polynikes

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 9:23:39 AM   
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I understand your trouble Spankme. My bf suggested I read over the phone to him an erotic romance I have been reading. I told him I don't think I could do it and he didn't understand that. He said it's just reading a book, not even my words. Idk why that is so hard. Of course I know I will be expected to try this sometime but he won't push me. After being in a marriage for 18 yrs to someone who wouldn't even say cock or pussy or fuck it is not natural to me. I have had to suppress my true self for so long that to be able to let go of my inhibitions will take time and he understands this. As I see he is so accepting of me and get used to him loving me no matter what I say to him I am feeling less inhibited.  I suggest you talk, talk, and talk some more to your Master and in time you will be able to say anything to him including dirty things.

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 12:24:31 PM   
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quote:

Just an old worn out slut,
Her mouth on my Johnson
Her hands on my butt
A young stud two hands on the wheel
I can't replace the way it made me feel
I would press that lipclutch, and I would keep it right
She would say just a little slower sir
Your doing just fine
Just a little dirty whore with foam on each side
But I was Mario Andretti
When that ol' cunt let me drive

AlanJacksonMaster


Not bad at all.  May I suggest:  "But I was Long Dong Silver/when that ol' cunt let me drive"

E.

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"What's for breakfast? What do you say, Piglet?"
"I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today?"
Pooh nodded thoughtfully.
"It's the same thing," he said.

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 12:57:52 PM   
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MMMMMMM... I love feeling dirty. Dirty talk is the best way.... I love it when he stands behind me, kisses me on my neck and bites my ear lobe.... then he growls into my ear every single thing he is planning to do to me (it gets me whimpering & wet instantly) then I have to admit to him how much I'd love him to do those things.

I'd have to say how much I'd love to taste his cock & make him scream for more... I love taking him to the edge and then ease off so he calls me a bitch & a tease.... 9 times outta 10 he'd eventually ended up grabbing my hair and force me to finish him off as he calls me all sorts of thinks for teasing him so.

***think I might have to go take a cold shower..... cos I'm sat here licking my lips and smiling***

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 2:28:37 PM   
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There's a couple different parts to talking dirty.

Firstly there's the improvisation/spontenaity.  Like planning a scene, you should have some vague idea of where you're going to but be prepared to be inspired by your audience and take it in a new direction.

Second, it feels like you're being put on the spot, like public speaking.  I think most people believe that they are being looked at with critical eyes when they are talking to a group.  I believe that people want to hear what I have to say because it is well thought out and sounds good.  Even if it is the filthiest fucking thing ever whispered through those little ears and into that dark, perverted, slutty little whore mind of yours.

Third, there's saying words that are considered "wrong", like the seven words you can't say on television.  Here you have choices.
1) Say things that could sound dirty but don't use any dirty words.  "I want you inside of me, you stallion" is pretty hot but doesn't use a bad word.  Also consider listening to the Frantic's "Dirty Word Sketch", which demonstrates that a perfectly innocent word can be filthy, it's all about context.
2) Get comfortable saying them.  Consider that thought is shaped by language.  How do you express something if you don't have words for it?  What if there is a word but you refuse to use it because it has a bad connotation?  Consider how most of society places negative connotations on your favorite kinks and that you probably spent a long time getting comfortable with expressing yourself in these areas and that part of the time was spent getting comfortable just thinking or saying the words.  I can point you to any number of people on here who are "closet" kinksters because they are not yet comfortable with the very ideas made from those words.  Consider that these so called dirty words are dirty because of the exact same people who made your kink sound like a bad thing.  You had to struggle to accept your kink.  You will have to struggle again to go the rest of the way and be freed from people's limitations on language.
3) Your Dom(me) didn't give you permission to hem and haw.  Spit it out, already.


Fourth, practice, practice, practice.  (shameless plug) I use my CM journal to spin little dirty fantasies that I hope give a broader impression of me and what I like while still entertaining.  I saw one girl in this thread say that she has trouble looking herself in the mirror.  To that girl I'd say start there.  Look in that mirror and look at each of the different parts of the face before you.  Look at the hair; The eyebrows; The forehead; The nose; The chin; The cheeks; The jawline; the neck; the left eye; the right eye; the ears; the shoulders.  Open your mouth and look at the teeth, the tongue waving around in there, the uvula at the back, and the inside of the cheek.  Make silly faces.  Poke it.  Stretch it.  Pinch it.  Recreate the scene from The Truman Show.  Recreate the scene from Taxi Driver.  Mimic the Godfather.  Mimic Norma Desmond.  Realize that it's just a face, just another face in a world of 6 billion faces.  Then realize how special this face is because you know every kinky, dirty, naughty secret (big and small) rattling around deep down inside behind that face, so brilliantly hidden by that particular and unique combination of features.

Now close your eyes.  If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a sound?  If you close your eyes, can you prove the world is still really there?  Imagine for a moment that it isn't.  It's gone.  There's just your thoughts.  Your thoughts become real when you manifest them into the world, either through action or speech.  Think to yourself "I'm the dirtiest sub ever."  Now say it out loud.  Notice the difference.  Now do it again except use the phrase "I'm the fucking dirtiest sub ever and I love hot, kinky sex."  Notice the difference between thinking and saying, between this phrase and the last.  "I'm your hot little fuck-slut and all I want is to worship every part of your sex."  Again.  "I'm so horny I can't sit still.  Please, can I touch myself for you?"  Your turn.  Make something up.  Make it good.  ....  Nice.  Now you're getting the hang of it!  Wow.  I can't believe you went there.  I like it.  Interesting.  We'll have to explore that later.  Open your eyes.  See?  Nothing has really changed but for a moment there you felt different, didn't you?  Make up another one.  Ooh, I like that one, too.  Now give yourself the most smoking hot look you can and put that deep, throaty quality into your voice.  Say that last one again.  SSsssss.... that is fucking hot.

Repeat this exercise as often as you need to until you can't look at your reflection without a wicked little smile growing on your face because you know that you've taken that raw kink and honed your words and your body language into a finely honed tool for sexual stimulation.  You can be one bad, bad sub when you want to be and it feels oh so good.

In the words of Fatboy Slim, "Don't be scared by the tone of my voice.  Check out my new weapon, weapon of choice."

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 3:21:07 PM   
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I tend to have the opposite problem, actually.  I am very vocal during sex, and I enjoy digging deep into the pit of my vernacular to pull out some juicy morsel.  My boyfriend laughingly tells me this is not very becoming of a submissive, and quite gleefully gags me to keep me from talking dirty during sex.  To me, simply moaning and saying "oh yes, oh yes" would get old really fast.  I prefer come up with more....creative ways to express my pleasure at being used.

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 6:24:13 PM   
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I agree 100%  it ruins my concentration completely ... of course there should be sounds .. grunts, moans, sighs .. but speaking and forming words only makes me think and I don't want to think I want to feel.  On the other hand, listening to dirty talk is very much a turn on ... go figure.....

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/4/2007 6:31:00 PM   
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Fast reply here:
I can totally relate to those here who find it difficult, if not downright impossible to utter such "coarse" things. No matter how much you want to be able to do it, there is a wall, set up I expect by years of "good girls just don't say such things" conditioning.
 
However, having pondered on it some more, I have decided that (and this assumes that various foodstuffs have never been discussed in terms of limits) that were I presented with the option to either start spewing forth dirty talk, or have to eat a Madagascan hissing cockroach, raw (and still hissing ), then that would provide more than sufficient motivation to turn me, immediately, into the worlds dirtiest talker.
 
You just need the right incentive perhaps?
 
The other issue I see with this, is that to start saying how much you "love it when he does X", or how much you "want to do Y" to him and so-on, is that its just another form of manipulation by the sub to get the Dom to do what she wants. I still wrestle with that.



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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/5/2007 7:01:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pleasureforck

I totally can relate to you in this. I too have hard time talking dirty. Since I'm in a long distance relationship having phone sex has been very difficult. I can text or message him all kinds of things but as soon as we are talking I get all self concious. He is being very patient with me and I'm getting better slowly. I have practiced out loud alone and I think it's helped a little.


UH HUH

I totally get it, and honestly still have a hard time with it.

i have seen slaves that have to address themselves as their Master's cunt, whore etc... try that maybe things will get easier.  There is a reason why Master's ideally have there slaves do this.  It's to first of all humble them, and get them to find their place, or have structure within their setup / arrangement.  i found that addressing myself the above mentioned way helped alot and also aloud me to feel comfortable in doing other things as well.

~meticulous~

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RE: Dirty Talking - 7/5/2007 7:23:49 AM   
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sometimes less is more ..... i personally think..... a heartfelt gently spoken "filthy cunt" comment or suchlike can with the correct emphasis say  so  much more than  a rendering of Dial-a-wank.although i can see why long distance relationships might be enhanced by a phone/cam type  connection, as a lot of the subtlety and nuance of a look a movement a word might be lost in translation somewhat..... how very frustrating.... like eating with boxing gloves on

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RE: Dirty Talking - 8/6/2007 9:31:45 AM   
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If this can help - my owner expects from me dirty talking too.. You know, like bad words.. Only because he knows how shy I am and that I cant say such things, especially infront of him. He always provokes me, because he knows I enjoy getting over this shyness and being able to say a bad word or two. The thrill is exciting. He tells me what he wants to hear and than he patiently waits until I get the courage to say it. If I dont, he just finds a way to provoke me, until I have no choice A bad word always gives me a heartbeat of 130 beats per minute


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