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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 6:36:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		In a strange way, I'm oddly disappointed that Bush didn't grant Libby a full pardon. I've always grudgingly admired the utter shamelessness of the Bush regime, and commuting just the prison time seems depressingly moderate for GWB.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 6:37:25 PM   
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Bush commutes Libby prison sentence
By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago



President Bush spared former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby from a 2 1/2-year prison term in the CIA leak case Monday, stepping into a criminal case with heavy political overtones on grounds that the sentence was just too harsh.

Bush's move came hours after a federal appeals panel ruled Libby could not delay his prison term in the CIA leak case. That meant Libby was likely to have to report to prison soon and put new pressure on the president, who had been sidestepping calls by Libby's allies to pardon the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney.

"I respect the jury's verdict," Bush said in a statement. "But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby's sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cia_leak_trial


He did it?  (Obviously I haven't watched the news tonight).

Bush wrote the check?

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 6:37:31 PM   
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 things like what happened to Nixon are the exception, not the rule.



     Didn't Nixon get a pardon before he was even found guilty?

    


Yeah, but he still got punished. That high up in gov, doesn't happen often, and I don't see it happening now. Hell, it still surprises me that the Republicans made such a stink over Cigar Bill and Monica.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 6:41:38 PM   
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In a strange way, I'm oddly disappointed that Bush didn't grant Libby a full pardon. I've always grudgingly admired the utter shamelessness of the Bush regime, and commuting just the prison time seems depressingly moderate for GWB.


I still think somebody keeps coming up behind AnencephalyBoy while he is playing with his tiddly-winks and sucking his thumb, and thwapping him on the back of the head and saying:

"Look, asswipe, you need to stop doing things that are putting a bullet in the head of the Republican party.  Your reign of error is due to end on January 21, 2009, and at the rate we are going, your idiotic actions are going to hand political control in this country to the Democrats until the end of the United States."

Commuting Libby's sentence keeps (sort of) his likely promise to Libby that he would never spend a minute in jail, while not really signalling to the rest of the world that he is actively trying to cover up his illegal shenanigans.

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p.s.  I also imagine they are paying Libby's fines.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 6:53:41 PM   
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p.s.  I also imagine they are paying Libby's fines.




the week isn't over... he may wash the whole thing, no fine no probation... but even if he doesn't... one little dinner party at $2500 a plate will take care of the fines.

I hope the Wilson's sue his shorts off with the cival suit but I suspect they are still have their sites set for the big fish.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:01:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a win win for both sides, politically.  Bush is pretty much isolated these days; even the extremist right wing of the Republican Party has abandoned him.  Throwing them Libby without even waiting for him to spend a single day in jail was an admission that Bush is desperate to make nice with them.  It's also an admission that recovering the other 80% of the nation is an impossibility.

It's a win for the Democrats as well.  The 2006 election was a referendum on the arrogance and corruption of the Republican Party, and this move is merely a confirmation of what people already knew.  It's great for the Dems, because it will not only energize the activist base, but it will be one more factor pushing the center 40% of Americans further towards them.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:25:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well this sucks.   You do the crime you do the time.   It's no different that illegal aliens.   You do the crime you do the time.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:29:19 PM   
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Well this sucks.   You do the crime you do the time.   It's no different that illegal aliens.   You do the crime you do the time.


Apparently only if you are left-wing.

Right-wingers are free to egregiously flout the law and not have to face the music for their illegal shenanigans.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:35:33 PM   
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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:40:56 PM   
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The 2006 election was a referendum on the arrogance and corruption of the Republican Party




        And the results were the Dems getting just enough power in the House to get blamed for breaking their promises and only controlling the Senate by way of Joe Lieberman's blow-jobs.

       Not much of a mandate. 

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:42:54 PM   
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rofl   You know that I am a Republican and very conservative.   LOL   sheesh


I do.

Doesnt change the fact that left wingers do the time and right wingers seem to skate or get pardoned or whatever, all the while demanding that we should be "tough on crime."

I understood the tragic irony of your post.  Dont know if you did or not.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:44:09 PM   
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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:45:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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The 2006 election was a referendum on the arrogance and corruption of the Republican Party




       And the results were the Dems getting just enough power in the House to get blamed for breaking their promises and only controlling the Senate by way of Joe Lieberman's blow-jobs.

      Not much of a mandate. 


Not enough were up for reelection to make any real change happen.

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:46:03 PM   
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The 2006 election was a referendum on the arrogance and corruption of the Republican Party
 


       And the results were the Dems getting just enough power in the House to get blamed for breaking their promises and only controlling the Senate by way of Joe Lieberman's blow-jobs.

      Not much of a mandate. 


rofl   People really believe polotical promisses?   LOL   I mean I know that some do but really do people really do that?

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:47:47 PM   
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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:48:46 PM   
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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 7:55:53 PM   
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Not enough were up for reelection to make any real change happen.

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     Bullshit.  Every member of the House of Representatives stood for re-election.  1/3 of the Senate.  The Dems simply didn't have the juice (partly because they completely pissed off people like me).


      (Let me rephrase a tad, every seat in the House, rather than every member.  I don't know how many were leaving on their own)

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 8:07:33 PM   
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the pardon, (if it can happen) will most likely come right before Bush leaves office. someone on here may know whether such an action is allowed; commuting a sentence and then granting a full pardon. seems to me it has been done before. anyone?

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 8:50:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now let us all remember when this first came to the public that a CIA ageant name was released to the public...Bush public vowed to punish to full the extent of the law those responsible.  Then when Cheny and others he backed offed.  Bush just handed the entire control of the government to the Democrates (Not to say this is a bad thing).  The only thing left for the GOP to do is publicly annouce they no longer support Bush.  They are fools if they did, Bush went from 29% support to absolute Zero

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RE: Bush commutes Scooter Libby's sentence - 7/2/2007 9:06:09 PM   
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    Bullshit.  Every member of the House of Representatives stood for re-election.  1/3 of the Senate.  The Dems simply didn't have the juice (partly because they completely pissed off people like me).



I misspoke.

The Democratic party did not have enough money to fritter it away on going after every Republican up for reelection.  So they borrowed a page from the Republican playbook and attacked the ones they thought they could win.  And they won.

Now, next election, odds are fairly good that more of them will fall because nothing the Republicans have done for the last 2 years is playing into their hand.

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