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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 8:45:02 AM

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i have done a few colon clenses. it ended up being a tool- to delay the everything.

if i could at least drop a few notches. you know less toxic. as you mentioned one pill to deflect another. it is a chemical soup. i do take c e and niacin- the niacin the makes hot flashes.

not to throw blame- as we all make our own beds... but my gall bladder got shot due to chuggig diet pepsi. i drink almost no soda at all. ild drink 2 liters a day of it. my stomache healed when i stopped the pepsi. when soda was invented it was ment to be a once a week treat. not a daily regiment.

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 8:57:12 AM

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That and the fact that it was diet, have you watched the documentaries on artifical sweetners? They are deadly, literaly. Sodas can dehydrate also. And when using the cleansers, you have to use them in the right order, the colon is the last part of the body, doesnt do anything if you havent cleansed out everything else first. Start with the blood, work your way through the system. Can honestly be a year long process, isnt a "do it once and your healed" thing.

Stay away from anything oily...

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 9:07:53 AM

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yes- that spray cooking spray i cant digest. i seen a docu on nutrisweet- very intriguing.

be that as it may- i simply must take myself a few notches down. im like a loud radio=- if i could drop a few notches then- maybe i then can make the nest wise decission. no one plans this type of thing. it really is a chemical soup.

the colon clense i did - and it might be time to do so again. bear in mind i just moved and coming off of alot of stress due to that. but i should tell me to shut up. i made my bed. now i must deal with it.
no explanation will change the fact that i am out of whack. also this is a hush hush thing....if you know what im saying. once labelled- your labelled for life.

i hesitate to press the send button- but here goes-

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 9:10:01 AM

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i dont know enuff about a system clense.

could you refer me?? where do i start?

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 9:15:16 AM

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try www.theherbfinder.com

They have entire system clenses, and alot of literature on what needs to be done and in what order and along what time line.

Starting over is definantly a hard place to be, and even dropping one chemical out of your system is a good goal to reach for. I definantly understand the difficulty behind stopping cold turkey, and with some drugs, stopping that way is more dangerous than taking them in the first place. The truth is, 90% of the country is in the same boat as you, and you are definantly a leg and a half above the majority of them because most dont realize its a bad thing, nor do they want to do anything about it. They believe everything their doctor says and still believe the FDA is on their side

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 9:31:57 AM

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90% ? that is hard to picture. Thank you so much for this! im sure a few are quietly following this thread. you are an inspiration.

as i said- i know i need the antidepressent. the otehr stuff- is a hodge pache. both perscribed and self perscribed. even if i take the actual perscribed meds- at my age- do i really need to be on 7 of them??? [im 43]

i wish i could tell you- in a month i will be in a better place. BSing anyone including myself...it a time water, babysteps maybe.

a small step... if i do small steps as i go, i have a roof over my head now- so no excuses.

so teh question is to myself. august 4th- can i tell me- or you- i am in a better place. i must try. even if i fail.

choking in ones vomit is no fun. there must be an easier way. so baby steps.

i have done some outstanding things during my lifetime. i wont see age 50 at teh rate im going. also being that i have herniated disks my health is compromised due to that.

my body goes off if teh poisen isnt in me.

again i hesiate to press send.....

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 9:41:23 AM

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Im the first to admit, there are things that prescription drugs are good for, but do your research, alot of them counteract badly with others and doctors dont always pay attention to this...it is after all the drug companies who pay their salary's.

Think about this for a second, many places like walgreens, cvs, and walmart have begun starting little clinics where people can go to be seen for a throat infection, a cold, or any minor ailment and recieve medical care and prescriptions at half the cost of a regular doctor. Really great for those people without insurace. The AMA is now petitioning the government to shut them down because the doctors who belong to the AMA are scared they are gonna loose money. It aint about getting the american people the best medical care for less, its about who makes more money. It is always the patients responsibility to research whatever drugs the doctor prescribes, if something doesnt sound right to you, get a second opinion, or a third. Look at all the medical procedures and cures for diseases that are legal in other countries but outlawed in the USA? Doctors dont wanna HEAL people, they want to put them on drugs to mask all their syptoms. Sypmtoms arent the problem, they are a sign that something is wrong, heal the person, not the symptom.

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 9:53:38 AM

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yes- it is about the money. but/add to it- if one pill is good- 2 is bettter. 3 must be kickazz. then comes bodies tolerance to it.

we dont have those clinics locally yet. i HAVE already picked a pharmistts brain. my brother taught me this. they we to school many years to be a glorified pill counter. they love it when you ask advice. ill come right out and ak the active ingrediant over the counter.

i need a doable plan on me. subject to change. but i must try.

i can type it out al day= but i refer t i made my bed stuff. [shut up roger]

it really is a pity i cant talk this thru with a dr. but you are correct. i hae ofen seen he sales pushhers get in before the sickly.

my grandmoother never sees a dr. she is in good health. she dont believe in them.

ok- so my goa is to take it down a notch by aug th. i have to figure how to nmeasure this.

heck- a i said- i dont some outsanding things in my life. jsut maybe i can---

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 9:59:23 AM

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If you see a doctor regulary, and from the sound of it you do, I would definantly talk to the doctor about it, dont ASK them if they think its ok, TELL them. Say, "I feel Im on too many pills and I am going to take it down a notch". You also said you are on antidepressants...talk to your therapist or pshycologist or whomever you speak with. Many drugs interact badly with antidepressants and if you drop how many you are taking, you may need to alter your prescription for the antidepressants too. That is something your therapist can help with. Make your own descisions, but make sure the docs know what your doing.

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 10:07:02 AM

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my drs have no idea what im doing!!!!

i cant discuss this with them. i simply cant. as i say- "self perscribed" is among the "package" here. you can get almost anything online....meds included. customs gets maybe 50%. watch teh boards and you know when to grab. then you stock up. hey it beats going to the slums and risking being killed....

SHUT UP ROGER!

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 10:11:47 AM

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i was thinking of changing drs. this is a small town area. so- you can easily be blacklisted.

my current dr does way too many tests. every visit- goes wild, over does it. i have had umteen ekgs etc. so- ok- lipitor, cosar, a water pill. ok choletoral- blood pressure. we are jsust getting started. i havent been takin the water pill.

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 10:19:36 AM

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OK, then I understand, sorry I missed that peice of info earlier. When doing that, you just have to be even more diligent about doing your own research. I would expect that you could even go into a pharmacy where you dont know the people there and ask "hey does xxx react with yyy" without giving any info about who you are and where you get xxx and yyy.

Dont make yourself give anything up compleatly. Even if you could take ONE less pill a month, that would be a start. Write it down somewhere, when you first buy your pills, immediatly take one pill out of the bottle and flush it down the drain. Next month do it with two. As long as you dont cheat and go buy more often to make up for it, your doing ok. Writing down your goals is a good way to keep on top of them. Keep a journal, write down how many pills you think you shoudl take that day and keep it near your pill bottles. Put all your meds in a specific cabinet and paste a note on the outside of the door with your goals. The more you have to look at your own handwriting to even GET to the meds, the more likely you are to remember your goals and the reasons behind them.

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RE: advice 4 pets 4 4th? - 7/3/2007 10:38:41 AM

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i CAN do one less pill a month. yes.

a big reason- too- well a motivation. one med- my ability to obtain such has dropped. w/o getting into specifics- i have no choice. so- that med- is 1/2 starting as of a week ago. But i still can obtain the 1/2. just not the quanity. ild say this is the biggest dragon to slay. even right now i could be out at the GNC buying a flush systyem. i dont feel like it.

luckily i dont drink alcohol. none. it does nothing for me.
so at least taht isnt in the mix here.

there are in luei of meds that are simmilliar to the one i cant get so much of. but it is a sloppy way to go. i have a few break this glass of those tablets.

so- as you can see- in a way i dont have a choice in the matter.

so lets take 2 heavy duty meds- alone- it is.....hmmm- not my pick. only when combined is it desirable.
i dont want to get too graphic here as this is a public board.

Vit C and E and niacin im safe to continue. ummm. if it is ok with you maybe we can take this off the board. to a more private communicate.

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