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domiguy -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 11:55:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol What I want to know is where the new wave of insecure racist white trash that posts on collarme.com has come from. I suggest they all go back to their trailer parks [:(] . Remember, all it takes to posts is a piece of shit computer and a phone line...Unfortunately logging into CM is not a test of intelligence, compassion, the ability to reason or conduct a logical argument.... There are people who participate that are absolutely fucking nuts, there are pedophiles, felons and probably murderers...People not taking their psych meds....And every type of loony under the Sun.....Which makes this the fun and happy place that I call my cyber home...(Domiguy lays out a doormat that reads ..."You crazy motherfuckers wipe your feet and ass before entering."

farglebargle -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 11:56:20 AM)
Aw, shit... I forgot my pill this morning!

domiguy -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 11:58:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SubinMaine CM, what happened to this boy was horrible, let's just get that out of the way first...and normally we see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but there's a problem with this....and just hear me out: Skinheads do NOT associate with anyone other than their own. If anything, i don't think this boy was attacked for trying to kiss anyone...i think it was a true setup because i can't imagine a skinhead inviting a hispanic to their party? Maybe i'm missing something but... Here we go again....So what exactly is your point? Is this a hate crime?

CrimsonMoan -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:10:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SubinMaine CM, what happened to this boy was horrible, let's just get that out of the way first...and normally we see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but there's a problem with this....and just hear me out: Skinheads do NOT associate with anyone other than their own. If anything, i don't think this boy was attacked for trying to kiss anyone...i think it was a true setup because i can't imagine a skinhead inviting a hispanic to their party? Maybe i'm missing something but... I agree with you on that but this was as I remeber just a bit party thrown by a bunch of teens. You know as well as I do those kinds of parties attrack EVERYONE and their mother to just show up. And like i said lots of booze and drugs involved here as well. He tried to kiss and then her brother gave him a smack, then these two decided to take matters into their own hands.

SubinMaine -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:14:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy quote: ORIGINAL: SubinMaine CM, what happened to this boy was horrible, let's just get that out of the way first...and normally we see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but there's a problem with this....and just hear me out: Skinheads do NOT associate with anyone other than their own. If anything, i don't think this boy was attacked for trying to kiss anyone...i think it was a true setup because i can't imagine a skinhead inviting a hispanic to their party? Maybe i'm missing something but... Here we go again....So what exactly is your point? Is this a hate crime? Back off DG, i wasn't speaking to you. my only point was that the story is missing something because it's pretty common knowledge that skinheads don't associate with people not exactly like them (ignorant, bald, swastika sportin' trash). i just found it highly unlikely that kid would have been an invited guest who they tried to justify beating on him with a "tried to kiss a 12 yo girl" defense. i believe the kid had to have been set up. and yes, i do believe this is a HATE CRIME fuckin' christ, go bother someone else

SubinMaine -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:16:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan quote: ORIGINAL: SubinMaine CM, what happened to this boy was horrible, let's just get that out of the way first...and normally we see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but there's a problem with this....and just hear me out: Skinheads do NOT associate with anyone other than their own. If anything, i don't think this boy was attacked for trying to kiss anyone...i think it was a true setup because i can't imagine a skinhead inviting a hispanic to their party? Maybe i'm missing something but... I agree with you on that but this was as I remeber just a bit party thrown by a bunch of teens. You know as well as I do those kinds of parties attrack EVERYONE and their mother to just show up. And like i said lots of booze and drugs involved here as well. He tried to kiss and then her brother gave him a smack, then these two decided to take matters into their own hands. ok, well that makes sense if it was a whole slew of kids just partying and he was targeted...still think the "tried to kiss a 12 yo girl" story is a flat out lie...trying to justify what they did.

CrimsonMoan -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:18:27 PM)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229564,00.html the actual attack trial. The party was thrown at the home of the girl he tried to kiss and her brother. She brought it up to her brother and later one of the attackers accused David of stealing the brother's drug. What do this show? That stupid people don't need to do coke.

SubinMaine -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:20:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229564,00.html the actual attack trial. The party was thrown at the home of the girl he tried to kiss and her brother. She brought it up to her brother and later one of the attackers accused David of stealing the brother's drug. What do this show? That stupid people don't need to do coke. gotcha, thanks for that

kittinSol -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:29:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol What I want to know is where the new wave of insecure racist white trash that posts on collarme.com has come from. I suggest they all go back to their trailer parks [:(] . Remember, all it takes to posts is a piece of shit computer and a phone line...Unfortunately logging into CM is not a test of intelligence, compassion, the ability to reason or conduct a logical argument.... There are people who participate that are absolutely fucking nuts, there are pedophiles, felons and probably murderers...People not taking their psych meds....And every type of loony under the Sun.....Which makes this the fun and happy place that I call my cyber home...(Domiguy lays out a doormat that reads ..."You crazy motherfuckers wipe your feet and ass before entering." I don't know whether to take your lucidity with despair or resignation.

kittinSol -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:35:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SubinMaine quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy quote: ORIGINAL: SubinMaine CM, what happened to this boy was horrible, let's just get that out of the way first...and normally we see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but there's a problem with this....and just hear me out: Skinheads do NOT associate with anyone other than their own. If anything, i don't think this boy was attacked for trying to kiss anyone...i think it was a true setup because i can't imagine a skinhead inviting a hispanic to their party? Maybe i'm missing something but... Here we go again....So what exactly is your point? Is this a hate crime? Back off DG, i wasn't speaking to you. my only point was that the story is missing something because it's pretty common knowledge that skinheads don't associate with people not exactly like them (ignorant, bald, swastika sportin' trash). i just found it highly unlikely that kid would have been an invited guest who they tried to justify beating on him with a "tried to kiss a 12 yo girl" defense. i believe the kid had to have been set up. and yes, i do believe this is a HATE CRIME fuckin' christ, go bother someone else Holy cow.

SubinMaine -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:41:37 PM)
my apologies. losing my temper wasn't very mature of me. i'll just bow out now seeing how it's becoming painfully (and not the fun kind) evident that anything and everything i say will be misconstrued.

domiguy -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 12:52:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol What I want to know is where the new wave of insecure racist white trash that posts on collarme.com has come from. I suggest they all go back to their trailer parks [:(] . Remember, all it takes to posts is a piece of shit computer and a phone line...Unfortunately logging into CM is not a test of intelligence, compassion, the ability to reason or conduct a logical argument.... There are people who participate that are absolutely fucking nuts, there are pedophiles, felons and probably murderers...People not taking their psych meds....And every type of loony under the Sun.....Which makes this the fun and happy place that I call my cyber home...(Domiguy lays out a doormat that reads ..."You crazy motherfuckers wipe your feet and ass before entering." I don't know whether to take your lucidity with despair or resignation. Probably both....But then it makes it all the more frickin' fanfuckingtastic when you actually run across someone that doesn't suck...lol. Many folks out here couldn't spell c.u.n.t. if you spotted them "cun"....So you take it like a grain of salt...It can piss you off as to the ignorance and stupidity of others but it is inevitably wasted energy...again anyone one can log in...We are all obviously not the same...Ya' know it is a two way street....I have been known to piss a few off out here...Though I really can't recall the last time this unfortunate event has occurred. Peace. Oh lovely titted one.

ModeratorEleven -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 1:06:05 PM)
Ok children, settle down please. XI

slaveluci -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 2:29:05 PM)
I've been away from the forums for a couple days and logged back in today to find statements like this: quote: "my virulent dislike of pale-skinned garbage" quote: "insecure racist white trash" - "I suggest they all go back to their trailer parks" Anyone who claims they are not racists and then use phrases such as these is a very deluded individual. But, as is so apparent, it's OK to be racist as long as it's against the "right" race - the one who "deserves" it. Imagine the words "pale skinned" replaced with "black" or even "African-American," the words "white trash" replaced with "black trash," and the words "trailer parks" replaced with "ghetto slums." All the good non-racist folks would be having a coronary. It's so sad that the words that were used got almost nary a notice. quote: This thread is actually full of racist thoughts; it drips with it You got that right. quote: As for me, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever about calling a spade a spade. It seems you do. Don't remember who exactly this was aimed at. But if "calling a spade a spade" means calling it as it is, then I've done that myself above. There's a great book by Jim Goad called "The Redneck Manifesto." I would like to suggest that everyone give it a gander. Don't let the title fool you or keep you from looking into it. The whole point is that classism is the bigger problem, not always racism. He is so spot-on about how racist hatred is unacceptable unless it's against the "white trash," "trailer park," "redneck" folks. Then it's fair game. To assume that all "trailer park" folks are racist is pure ignorance. The poorest whites, though often painted as the most racist, are hardly the ones with all the money and power to establish and carry on institutional racism. It's often said that to be truly racist, one must have power. And that, evidently is why poor minorities can never truly be considered racist.[8\|] How much of that self-same power and money do poor "trailer park rednecks" have? No more than the poor minorites - none. So please, give me (and the rest of us po white trash) a friggin' break, huh?.............luci

kittinSol -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 2:44:26 PM)
luci, you and I both know how much you enjoy getting your knickers in a twist, so I'm happy to have given you yet another opportunity to get riled up. HOWEVER, I have to say that it would be good, in the interest of accuracy, that you read through the thread again and managed to get my point. If you felt insulted by my deliberately provocative generalizations, I can only recommend you take a course on self-esteem: my point was made at some inherently racist folks around here, people who don't think twice about insulting others because of their nationality, or ethnic origin, or even faith. So I ask that YOU, of all people, call a spade a spade. Et toc.

domiguy -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 3:01:54 PM)
Whenever I go downtown I'm always amazed as the skinheads pull up in their Jags, Mercedes and Porsches....They are sooooo rich..That must be why they are racists.

LSUDomme -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 3:41:43 PM)
I have to agree there. If a person from the nation of islam shoots me because I am "dressed like a whore"..I want him arrested and killed because he shot me. Same thing if a white guy shot me calling me some strange name. My greatgrandfather who is alive would say the same thing though. He actually has had his house shot up by kkk members. He didn't want them to be arrested for what they called him..he wants their butts hanging for what they tried to do. Personally I say we bring back beheadings.

caitlyn -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 3:54:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol As for me, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever about calling a spade a spade. It seems you do. Not so much that ... I just had an event happen right around seventh grade, where I outgrew determining people's character, from a few words on a message board. [;)]

popeye1250 -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 4:04:38 PM)
LOL Caitlin.

kittinSol -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/5/2007 6:46:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: caitlyn quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol As for me, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever about calling a spade a spade. It seems you do. Not so much that ... I just had an event happen right around seventh grade, where I outgrew determining people's character, from a few words on a message board. [;)] If you like, I can go on a search for a good therapist for you in your area; nobody's beyond repair. Look, I won't go into a playground spat with you - my epiphany was that fighting for the sake of it is sad. Fighting for your beliefs being quite another matter. Perhaps that's where you've been misled.

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