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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/4/2007 2:41:47 PM   
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Interesting question Lockit. I wonder if you would ask the same question of our male counterparts? Or do you believe this to be an issue/question for females?

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/4/2007 3:13:43 PM   
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I asked the question BECAUSE of one of our counter parts implying with a question that we dominated from past wounds.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/4/2007 4:48:26 PM   
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Ah, I see. Thank you for the clarification.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/4/2007 4:57:55 PM   
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You can see my upset with the topic because I felt so strongly about the question that I posted mine!  I know all dom's don't feel that a woman can't be dominant and in fact the one that posed the question may not believe this, but is a bit confused about things and might not have realized what he was saying.  I don't know.  But it wasn't my first go round with a dom believing this and I needed to know what female dominants felt about this.  I don't like to assume that because I don't like something or I feel some way; that others do... so I asked.  I meant no offense to anyone.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/4/2007 9:33:07 PM   
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Dear Lockit, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eyes I see--a good many men come in with the belief that all women should be barefoot and slave to men.  I blame much on the fantasy magazines and porn films directed to feed the 'all dominant male' born to dominate and such. I think boys are brought up with the expectation to be masculine and dominant over women as they cannot do things like men.
 
Thank goodness for those men who can be gender blind and judge a person on content and character--not gender. 
 
As with anything--there will be those who will be fanatics and are extreme as far as their bias and or prejudices.  As with any prejudices --it is hard to proffer anything as to have them change their position, unless there is a willing by a person to consider the other side of the debate and or philosophy.
 
This goes for women, men, age, race and or personal BDSM, S&M, D/s and or M/s practices.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/4/2007 10:16:45 PM   
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Dominants, submissives, switches...  Each group has a lot of members with past wounds. I don't see a pattern of more dominant females with past wounds than female submissives (or males for that matter).  And how would we even determine the wound history of a switch? 

On one hand, one could say old wounds = revenge, on the other hand, one could say old wounds = lack of confidence and the desire to be controlled by another who they deem more capable.   Both are likely true for some  and false for just as many others.

I am an only child with parents who "spoiled me" with their time, their emotional availability, my independence.. okay, and some extra  toys too.  I was always used to having things my way and being the center of the universe to those close to me....  as well as having a lot of control over my surroundings and my life.  With or without the kinky stuff, I have always expected to be in control in my relationships... and once I got out of my "bad boy" attraction as a teen, I have been attracted to those who had qualities considered more submissive in nature.   




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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/4/2007 10:32:44 PM   
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I could care less whether anyone thinks I'm Dominant because of past wounds.

We've all been wounded.  That has nothing to do with the fact that lying on a bed being mauled by a man who is absolutely clueless about My body just leaves Me completely cold.

Let me tie a man from head to toe, smack his butt, bite his mantitties until he cries and I get positively hot all over and wet as a river.

Wounds?  What wounds?  The more I control him, the hotter I get.

Do I care, at that precise moment, that someone might think I'm a Domme because of "past wounds"?

lololololol  That would be the absotively posilutely LAST thing on My mind....... *exits laughing*

(Nice topic, though. There's a lot of reading up available on the psychology of BDSM.  You have a long journey to look forward to.)  Best wishes!

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 6:29:19 AM   
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I think that a few people gravitate towards the dominant side of BDSM because they can't trust other people.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 9:50:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

I know that there are those that use their domination to retaliate against those that represent those who hurt them.  That is just a fact of human nature sometimes.  What I would like to know is how many of us use our domination to punish others for past crimes against us?  I was asked by another dominant to co-dominate with her and she mentioned many times how it would help me heal from past wounds.  I am so not in that kind of place, but I know that others might be… so it just makes me wonder.

Also… how do you feel about someone thinking that a female dominant is only dominant because of past wounds?



I'm going to come in on this having been a submissive to a newbie Domme who had previously come out of a 12 year marriage to a violent husband.

As with any victim of domestic violence there were many issues, anger, hurt, bitterness, regret, a lack of confidence, and yes, the perceived opportunity to express all these negative emotions did serve as a reason for this Domme to go into BDSM and become a Domme because she felt that she could get her own back and lash out, but we have to ask ourselves is this really domination? I for one think not.

I could have walked away from the relationship, but I didn't. I stayed. I figured that this particular relationship was Karma, and an opportunity to help this Domme get into BDSM, just previously Dommes had given me the chance to get into BDSM. It took time and a bit of effort to help this Domme realise that far from being negative, the emotion and energy between Dominant and submissive is really positive. I was glad I stayed, and was able to witness the transition of a very insecure, aggressive, overweight, severely depressed and lonely woman into a very kind, sensitive yet strict BBW Domme and this relationship alone has given me some of my most satisfying experiences in BDSM. But what was very central and integral to this transition was the effort that this Domme made herself to become such a Domme. She was the one who asked the questions, she was the one who found the answers and she was the one who overcame her circumstances to become who she really is.

We all have a past, and we all go through negative experiences, and we all respond in our own individual way to such experiences and it is going through these experiences and how we respond to them which helps to shape and influence the people who we really are.

Did Lady B, this Domme become dominant because she was a battered wife? No, I don't believe for one moment she did. But somehow in the way she responded to her situation and how she dealt with and learned to overcome her experiences may have triggered something, which led her to explore herself or perceive herself in a different way, and this is what probably led her to realise that she is dominant and a sadist.

I don't think there can be any particular experience which makes someone dominant, or submissive, or switch, or whatever. There can be experiences which can make us look into ourselves and discover that we are dominant, or submissive, or switch, but I feel the only real answer as to why someone is dominant or submissive is because it's a part of them and the answer will almost invariably lie within who they are as a person.

Therefore why is a dominant female dominant? Because she is.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 11:22:10 AM   
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quote:

how do you feel about someone thinking that a female dominant is only dominant because of past wounds?

 
Doesn't worry me in the least ... I see it as a positve statment ... it's empowerment ... embracing a woman's dominant soul ...and we all have one...  allows for the letting go of past hurts ... past regrets ... you don't actually let people treat you like shite ... when I hear that type of statement I think absolutely, only a fucken idiot would remain subjugated to their gender role if they kept getting hurt .. life's not working for ya ... change ya life ... it's not rocket science.
 
Is it the only reason?  Absolutely not ... but that's their own ignorance showing, not mine. ..because an empowered person thrives because of their past hurts, not exisiting because of them  ...
 
Becoming dominant, she learns to find out who she is ... beneath all the layers of life ... and finds herself happy ... knowing the actions and perceptions of others didn't define her ... past wounds matter little ... like a butterfly emerging from her cocoon ... she comes full circle and says ... this is me... this is who I am ...I am me ...and I'm in charge ... you have a problem with that ... poguemahone and don't let the door hit you on the way out ...
 
 
 



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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 12:12:03 PM   
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I found it rather interesting that, on the Ask A Submissive board, there is a very similar question to the female submissives if a past abuse/rape encouraged their feelings of submission in the lifestyle. 
 
Having read earlier replies from the OP, I know this is not connected to the post here, but it does make one wonder why it seems some feel women of either role have to have "a reason" for being in the lifestyle, rather than their male counterparts.  Looks like we still have some educating to do, from both sides of the kneel.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 1:30:27 PM   
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LadyPact...  That thread was started by someone we exposed last night... who seemingly was trying to wank from the details after emailing those that admitted to being abused or raped and asking for details that might stimulate him.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 1:33:13 PM   
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Lockit, thanks for the update.  I won't make the first comment that came to My mind when reading the above.  Just My appreciation for you telling Me about it.
 
In a sense, it still confirms My thoughts on education others. 

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 1:35:34 PM   
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You are absolutly right!

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 1:45:30 PM   
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Nope. Never.

In fact;once I faced my sadism, it took me a lot(and a long time) to incorporate it into play. I actually became celibate for a year to try and figure it out.

Couldn't figure out shit eventually...so I said, "Fuck it!", and started torturing men...



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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 3:58:46 PM   
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This is something from my personal journal - my first entry (a good while ago - 2years or so)  that mentions my admition to dominance.  No unsual wounds in my life really, but definitely a hard core feminist desiring some dominance to help balance out the many sociatal battles of being a powerful woman- absolutely.
 
So I will let you in on a secret.  When I was a teen fantasizing about what my life would be like, I always imagined that some day I would have a husband at home that would take care of the house, cleaning and laundry and most importantly me. Early on  - I mean prepubescence I rememeber thinking that John Denver (lol yeah the singer)might be a good example of such a gentle, submissive man.  As a teen I even kind of picked out a boyfriends and watched closely fellows that I thought might be good in that role.   I imagined that someday I would be so financially successful that I would be able to choreograph such a scenario.  And all relationships with men have been such that I am positioned as the dominant - sometimes / well most times it was very subtle, but always both parties (me and the fella )knew and we both were accepting of the arrangment. 
 
In my 20's & 30's as I was pouring myself into my career as a chef I did notice that the guys had a clear advantage as they all had wives serving them and keeping them going day and night.  In one restaurant opening the top chef team (6 of us) had to work 90 days straight.  My personal life fell apart. No laundry, or time to keep the house up, no social time for friends or boyfriends, no time for a pet, barely time to sleep... the other chefs were men all married with subservient wives who pampered them day and night.  I remember thinking that I needed a wife too....
 
Plus there are enough battles out there in the world that we have to wage simply because we are women - I refuse to do that at home too.  I would rather be alone than shackled to one who would try and dominate me.  And I know that I am very fair, smart, compassionate, collaborative and playful so I feel perfectly capable of being in the loving lead.
 
So in away this play is all tapping into something that has been in me simmering for a lifetime.  It is satisfying to find like minds and a comunity in which to explore these feelings and proclivities openly and consciously.

< Message edited by ocilla -- 7/5/2007 4:02:11 PM >


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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 4:45:01 PM   
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not to hijack or anything,  but I have met quite a few male doms who have had past issues such as abuse that more or less influence their interest in the lifestyle.  Some I have met seem to have a healthy take on the lifestyle despite the abuse, others ehhh nope! Just like most of the femDoms that I met that have had similiar issues.

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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 6:54:55 PM   
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Dear LadyPact, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I agree entirely with you --that education is needed.
 
It is hard to explain to others--even men, that it 'is' possible that we perceive many aspects of M/s, D/s, S&M, BDSM and such in a different manner.  The glass can be half empty and it can be half full.  Both are correct and valid.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
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RE: Dominant because of past wounds? - 7/5/2007 7:31:55 PM   
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Lady Hugs,

We certainly agree.  Education is not a bad thing.

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