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4th July - 7/4/2007 1:36:47 PM   
MasterScotsWill


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RE: 4th July - 7/4/2007 1:40:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		        All my Mexican neighbors, who occasionally serenade us with mariachi until the wee hours, got a return dose of Jimi Hendrix playing The Star-Spangled Banner when I put out the flag this morning.

      It's a small tradition, but it's mine.  Happy Fourth all!

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RE: 4th July - 7/4/2007 4:37:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		You know that Jimi Hendrix was NOT honoring the Flag???

I'm sure that your usage of his performance out of context completely confused everyone.



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RE: 4th July - 7/4/2007 4:48:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		       Yeah, Fargle, I've heard the theory that his starting the day with that performance was some sort of protest.  I also know that he was a veteran of military service, and that is how you start the day.

      I love his interpretation.  I consider it a celebration of the freedom we have here. 

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RE: 4th July - 7/4/2007 5:45:48 PM   
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RE: 4th July - 7/4/2007 6:07:17 PM   
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      Yeah, Fargle, I've heard the theory that his starting the day with that performance was some sort of protest.  I also know that he was a veteran of military service, and that is how you start the day.

     I love his interpretation.  I consider it a celebration of the freedom we have here. 


I think the irony that a veteran black man, poster child for counter-culture, playing the national anthem (wonderfully, I might add) was (and is) completely lost on the Right Wingers who sought to ban rock and roll as being unpatriotic and rebellious of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

R.I.P.  James "Jimi" Marshall Hendrix, you are missed.

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p.s.  Clinton made an interesting point (quoted in the current Rolling Stone).  He said that if one considered the 1960s as being a mostly positive time for the US culture, that person is probably a Democrat.  If one considered the 1960s as being a negative time for the US culture, that person is probably a Republican.

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 6:54:23 AM   
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the Right Wingers who sought to ban rock and roll as being unpatriotic and rebellious of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.




     You mean guys like Al Gore?

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 9:03:21 AM   
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the Right Wingers who sought to ban rock and roll as being unpatriotic and rebellious of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.




    You mean guys like Al Gore?


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You are absolutely right, TheHeretic.

When Al Gore was 19 years old (1967) he did everything he possibly could to stomp out Jimi Hendrix and the rest of the counter-culture rock and rollers.

[/sarcasm]

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 9:09:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		And seeing as Hendrix CLOSED THE SHOW, I'm not sure how he started the day with the Star Spangled Banner..

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DAY FOUR
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Paul Butterfield Blues Band
-Everything's Gonna Be Alright
-Driftin'
-Born Under A Bad Sign
-All My Love Comin' Through To You
-Love March

Sha-Na-Na
-Na Na Theme
-Jakety Jak
-Teen Angel
-Jailhouse Rock
-Wipe Out
-Who Wrote The Book Of Love
-Duke Of Earl
-At The Hop
-Na Na Theme

Jimi Hendrix
-Message To Love
-Getting My Heart Back Together Again
-Spanish Castle Magic
-Red House
-Master Mind
-Here Comes Your Lover Man
-Foxy Lady
-Beginning
-Izabella
-Gypsy Woman
-Fire
-Voodoo Child (slight return)/Stepping Stone
-Star Spangled Banner
-Purple Haze
-Woodstock Improvisation
-Villanova Junction
-Hey Joe


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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 9:10:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Keep in mind that the 4th of July is a celebration for the Declaration of Independence...

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 9:13:02 AM   
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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 9:25:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		fargle, a lot of the celebrations around the area where I live had to be cancelled because of the malevolent weather system.

Awwww...

Personally, I took it as a sign that God was punishing America for being so naughty abroad recently.

And I am never happier than when there is no bloody flag flying around. That flag is just about the most misused and abused symbol today.

And the first person that tells me to go back to where I come from will get a kick of a pointy stilleto where it hurts :-)

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 9:50:08 AM   
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I think the absolute biggest fucking idiots are those who by the flag napkins and paper cups. I mean, I hate the fucking thing, but could you imagine anything more disrespectful than tossing it in the garbage or wiping your greasy hands with it?



< Message edited by farglebargle -- 7/5/2007 9:51:10 AM >

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 9:58:37 AM   
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Imagine...

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 10:25:59 AM   
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Then what's with all the fucking US Flags?



It's a symbol.

And the flag was used during the Revolutionary war in 1776. The only difference was that there was only 13 stars and they were in a circle pointing outward.

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 10:27:44 AM   
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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 11:38:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		On June 14, 1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved, That the flag of the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation."


1776, July 4 -- Signing of the Declaration of Independence. << GADSDEN FLAG -- Don't Tread On Me.

1777, April 20 -- Ratification of the NYS Constitution << NYS FLAG -- EXCELSIOR!!!

1777, June 14 -- Continental Congress passes the first Flag Act

1777, November 15 -- Adoption of the Articles of Confederation

1781, March 1 -- Ratification of the Articles of Confederation

1787, September 17 -- Adoption of the US Constitution <<<< US FLAG HERE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE

1789, May 29 -- Ratification of the US Constitution <<<< THIS IS THE ONE US FLAGS ARE FOR.

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 6:04:06 PM   
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the Right Wingers who sought to ban rock and roll as being unpatriotic and rebellious of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.




   You mean guys like Al Gore?


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You are absolutely right, TheHeretic.

When Al Gore was 19 years old (1967) he did everything he possibly could to stomp out Jimi Hendrix and the rest of the counter-culture rock and rollers.

[/sarcasm]

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        Really, Sinergy...  Such cultural ignorance is hard to fathom from someone who quotes punk lyrics.  I imagine the 1967 Al Gore was as wasted as his offspring was when pulled over doing 100 mph on the 405.  I was referencing the mid-80's model who permanently lost my vote.

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 6:34:44 PM   
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And seeing as Hendrix CLOSED THE SHOW, I'm not sure how he started the day with the Star Spangled Banner..



        Look at a bit more of the schedule Fargle.  The closing act on Saturday was Jefferson Airplane, who took the stage at 8:00 am on Sunday.  If Jimi was the closing act on the Sunday schedule, I feel safe saying he started a day, Monday, with that song.  Isn't it daylight during his performance in the film?

      I always took the meaning of that performance to be "Fuck you.  It's my country too."  Can we at least agree on that?

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RE: 4th July - 7/5/2007 7:08:37 PM   
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On June 14, 1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved, That the flag of the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation."


1776, July 4 -- Signing of the Declaration of Independence. << GADSDEN FLAG -- Don't Tread On Me.

1777, April 20 -- Ratification of the NYS Constitution << NYS FLAG -- EXCELSIOR!!!

1777, June 14 -- Continental Congress passes the first Flag Act

1777, November 15 -- Adoption of the Articles of Confederation

1781, March 1 -- Ratification of the Articles of Confederation

1787, September 17 -- Adoption of the US Constitution <<<< US FLAG HERE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE

1789, May 29 -- Ratification of the US Constitution <<<< THIS IS THE ONE US FLAGS ARE FOR.


And what exactly are you arguing then????

The only difference between that flag of 1777 and today is that we 50 stars instead of 13 because we now have 50 states.

The flag today represents everything that is America including the constitution. But for you to complain about seeing the flag....that's just kind of stupid, man. This is the flag that George Washington and the Continental Army flew under in the revolution. And you are trying to say that we should be flying our state flags and never the national flag?

New York wasn't the only state to declare independence. It was 13 states that came together to defeat the Brits.
The Declaration was not even signed in New York, so why should I fly the New York flag on July 4?

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