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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 9:12:45 AM   
fillepink


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Status: offline 		just a brief thought; i kinda like the protocal of capitalizing Doms and Master's names and using lower case for submissives and slaves. However, in contradiction of myself, i am at a loss when i am emailed buy a man whose nick is "MasteroftheUniverse" etc. obviously, He's not MY Master; i'd prefer to call Him by His first name (capitalized, of course)...and some men are very put off by that; i have had men stop communicating with me because i felt this way.

but again..only ONE kid has to call me "mommy"; the one i gave birth to; i resent being pressed to call a stranger "Master"; for someday i hope to call have a Dom of my own (who i hope will use His first name) and i feel it's disrespectful to me and to Him to dilute the submissiveness i will someday show a Man i submit to by having used the titles "Master" or "Dom" over and over to appease the egos of so many men who went before. fillepink




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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 9:19:38 AM   
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but again..only ONE kid has to call me "mommy"; the one i gave birth to; i resent being pressed to call a stranger "Master"; for someday i hope to call have a Dom of my own (who i hope will use His first name) and i feel it's disrespectful to me and to Him to dilute the submissiveness i will someday show a Man i submit to by having used the titles "Master" or "Dom" over and over to appease the egos of so many men who went before. fillepink



It's all about personal values, what we value, what those values reflect in us.

For me it's nothing to do with numbers. If the Owner told me to call every single person I ever met in my life Sir and Maam, it would be done and it would not change a single thing about the value of my submission to him.

Now I find your resentment curious, because it's a reflection of ego. Part of the reason the Owner will tell me to do humiliating things like submit to a dork top would be to prove that it is not my ego which decides things, but his preferences. My ego just has to suffer as the dork top has his way with me. Part of why I consider humiliation a love/hate thing.

Just to note dork top does not equal dangerous top.

The issue that would affect me would be doing it JUST Because all those other people told me to do it. It would mean I wouldn't be making the best choice for myself, it would mean that they presume to have authority where they do not, and it would show that they are not good at forming social relationships....which is not a good characteristic for a dominant to have.

But it's not a respect or dilution issue for me. Just like I can fuck 5 random people in one night and then still have the most intimate deeply intense sex with the boyfriend in the morning. One doesn't affect the other in me.

In the end, as always, what matters is us deciding our own values and how to express them.


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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 12:49:43 PM   
MagicKnots


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No, I did not think it rocked because I do not find arrogance and pride to be a virtue.


I've been following this thread for a while and just kept shaking my head when I read your posts. Arrogance is not a virtue. I agree with that. Yet, your profile's main picture is you leaning against a Cadillac. Arrogant just isn't a strong enough word to describe you. Egoist isn't either. Narcissist. Now THAT fits!





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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 1:44:18 PM   
SirKenin


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ORIGINAL: MagicKnots

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No, I did not think it rocked because I do not find arrogance and pride to be a virtue.


I've been following this thread for a while and just kept shaking my head when I read your posts. Arrogance is not a virtue. I agree with that. Yet, your profile's main picture is you leaning against a Cadillac. Arrogant just isn't a strong enough word to describe you. Egoist isn't either. Narcissist. Now THAT fits!






How is that arrogant? It is just a car for Pete's sakes. Nothing fancy. It is merely an object. A thing with four wheels. A method of transportation (ok, so it has leather seats and a V8. Get over it). I happen to prefer driving Cadillacs (for various comfort reasons and a lot of highway driving), and that is not the first one I have owned. I had that photo done as a publicity shot more than anything to show a Sir Kenin that is professional and is serious about earning your business. I use it on My business website as a matter of fact. I rather like it because it is probably the only time you will ever catch Me wearing a suit. I typically dress casual. It sounds like you have a serious problem with giving heed to materialism that you need dealt with, rather than trying to pin your crap off on Me. Try objectification on for size, then come and talk to Me.

The picture was taken with the car for association reasons. You want to be seen while you are on the road, triggering a mental note of the corporate website and image, which then triggers the mental note of My services. Very soon I will have lettering for it, but if you notice the license plate is clearly visible. There is a reason for that. It is the initials of My company. I like to call it branding. In the not so distant future I will have a minivan fully branded and painted and I will have My picture taken beside that instead.

Narcissist? Are you not making just a WEEEEEE bit of a stretch in a lame effort to make a poor excuse for a point? Looking professional hardly screams "I am in love with Me" like Emerald's profile does. I have NEVER demonstrated any semblance of pride or narcissism in these forums. Sheesh. Somebody needs to buy you a Porsche for your birthday.

Oh, and if you do not like the picture it does not hurt My feelings any. Do not waste your time looking at it.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 1:58:37 PM   
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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 2:13:16 PM   
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Cuz no one should be in love with themselves and openly display it.


Well, I guess it depends how much of a narcissist you are, now that W/we are on the topic. In your case you openly admit that you take it to an extreme. That is fine if it works for you I guess.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 2:24:32 PM   
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I have NEVER demonstrated any semblance of pride or narcissism in these forums.


Its rare that one sees themselves the way other people see them.


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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 2:40:31 PM   
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I have NEVER demonstrated any semblance of pride or narcissism in these forums.


Its rare that one sees themselves the way other people see them.


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Yes, you're right. We're talking about the religious nut who says his interepretation of the Bible is the right one, his religion is the right one, and everyone else doesn't know what they are talking about. Gay marriage is a sin, but bi-sexual women are a-ok. Right.

Akasha




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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 3:02:15 PM   
MagicKnots


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How is that arrogant? It is just a car for Pete's sakes. Nothing fancy. It is merely an object. A thing with four wheels. A method of transportation (ok, so it has leather seats and a V8. Get over it). [edited for space, he just rambled on and on and on]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If it's just a method of transportation, then why is it the most prominant object in the picture and why use THAT picture for this site?

You're a narcissistic poser, nothing more.



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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 3:59:45 PM   
SirKenin


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ORIGINAL: MagicKnots


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How is that arrogant? It is just a car for Pete's sakes. Nothing fancy. It is merely an object. A thing with four wheels. A method of transportation (ok, so it has leather seats and a V8. Get over it). [edited for space, he just rambled on and on and on]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If it's just a method of transportation, then why is it the most prominant object in the picture and why use THAT picture for this site?

You're a narcissistic poser, nothing more.




Because I did not want any part of the image cut off. As branding was part of the point, I purposely included the car in the picture. I edited it the way I did in Photoshop because I hate partial objects in the frame. Otherwise the job could have been accomplished by including everything from the license plate over. Aestheticallly, of course, it would look retarded. This is not a case of brain surgery.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 4:04:33 PM   
SirKenin


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: stormsfate

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I have NEVER demonstrated any semblance of pride or narcissism in these forums.


Its rare that one sees themselves the way other people see them.


best regards,
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Yes, you're right. We're talking about the religious nut who says his interepretation of the Bible is the right one, his religion is the right one, and everyone else doesn't know what they are talking about. Gay marriage is a sin, but bi-sexual women are a-ok. Right.

Akasha





Oh, you can not come up with anything sembling intelligence so you have to try and kick Me in the nuts? Heh. Good job ace. As for gay marriage, I did not say gay marriage is a sin. Nor have I even suggested that being a homosexual in and of itself is a sin. I said that homosexual (whether by homosexuals, lesbians or bisexuals) sex is a sin. I said legalizing gay marriage is endorsing homosexuallity which is wrong. I said God can not condone such actions and will not recognize homosexual marriages for that reason. I also suggest that a marriage is a contract, and God will not honor that contract. you can not even get that right.

you are batting a thousand tonight.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 4:29:20 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		I like pride.

I have shitty self esteem. I LOVE women and men who are proud of themselves, love themselves and aren't afraid to stand up for the wonderfullness that is them.

It's the reason I love women like Emerald and LadyAngelika and sub4hire so much. They are proud of who they are and unafraid of saying that they are truly amazing human beings.

I think the world would be a better place if we all realized we're amazing, wonderful, unique, beautiful people and had the pride to stick up for our awesomeness.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 4:38:29 PM   
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Cuz no one should be in love with themselves and openly display it.



I disagree. If you don't love yourself then how can you expect someone else to?
I love myself, I am happy with myself and I think that I am wonderful. Do I go around saying it all the time? No. But when I look in the mirror I can say to myself "Wow girl, you are doing great!"

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 6:34:11 PM   
SirKenin


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Do I go around saying it all the time? No. But when I look in the mirror I can say to myself "Wow girl, you are doing great!"


And therein lies the difference. If Y/you are confident in Y/yourself, have a high self-esteem and are content with who Y/you are and what Y/you have accomplished, it shows. There is no need to brag about it. To Me that raises doubts of T/their feelings on security. I think to Myself that T/they need the approval of O/others because T/they are truly weak and frail inside with a huge helping of insecurity.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 6:53:11 PM   
slatyb


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Status: offline 		As a reportedly intelligent male, I think you have a great profile, just the kind to make me wish I were 20 years younger and 1000 miles closer. It will attract the people you want to attract, and evidently also does a good job of putting off people you don't want to meet. And the new photos are great.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 8:28:44 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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And therein lies the difference. If Y/you are confident in Y/yourself, have a high self-esteem and are content with who Y/you are and what Y/you have accomplished, it shows. There is no need to brag about it. To Me that raises doubts of T/their feelings on security. I think to Myself that T/they need the approval of O/others because T/they are truly weak and frail inside with a huge helping of insecurity.

Let's just say if I were stranded on a desert island, I'd feel and do pretty much the same things I feel and do now.

I'd just masturbate a lot more.

One thing you haven't thought of is that perhaps I also like to try and be an example to others? To show that they shouldn't hide their light? To let their nature shine? If they see ME being so open and so happy and so OUT there with how cool I am...maybe it might encourage a person or two to come out of their shell just a bit more.

I think knowing you are wonderful and being able to show it, in all ways, is a wonderful thing. And if I can help others do that by being a great example, I will.

You're projecting your ideas of why you think I'm so out about how much I love myself- you think it's because deep inside I really DONT love myself and I need to keep externally reaffirming that to myself in order to avoid facing the true dead reality inside.

You'd be right if this were 6 years ago. I fucked men because I didn't think I would ever actually have someone love me for who I was. I fucked them because it was the only way I thought I could get their attention. I was very fat, very shy, very beaten down inside.

Things changed...a LOT. I USED to be that person, now I rock and I know I rock. I still have insecurities, who doesn't? But I'm keenly aware of them myself and quite openly admit to them. I also, quite frankly, kick ass. I show it in my actions, even you admit that.

I just happen to see no reason not to and a couple of really good reasons to say it outright- if for no other reason than to remind myself of how far I've come.

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 9:45:53 PM   
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My profile rocks, feel free to use it as a template.

Do NOT use a profile to give you entire life philosophy of the true meaning of a dom or sub

Do NOT use a profile to ramble off the key words of bdsm- ssc, safe calls, protection, all that, it's tired, it doesn't say anything unique about yourself.

Do NOT use a profile to make any sort of rant about how sucky any other group of people or person may be. Likewise, do NOT use a profile to list off the thousand things you WON'T DO SO DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

Don't have spelling typos or major grammatical errors in a profile.

Points for pictures, its 2005, you're online, not having a reasonable picture is silly, specially if you're looking for a relationship from online.


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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/21/2005 11:18:17 PM   
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And therein lies the difference. If Y/you are confident in Y/yourself, have a high self-esteem and are content with who Y/you are and what Y/you have accomplished, it shows. There is no need to brag about it. To Me that raises doubts of T/their feelings on security. I think to Myself that T/they need the approval of O/others because T/they are truly weak and frail inside with a huge helping of insecurity.


That's gotta be the most annoying thing I/i've read since someone thought that non-gender specific English pronouns might be ripe for a comeback.

(Anyone have that family member that thinks he is a great guy, but everyone else in the family thinks is a pompous ignorant asshole? Just wondering...)

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/22/2005 5:00:05 AM   
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(Anyone have that family member that thinks he is a great guy, but everyone else in the family thinks is a pompous ignorant asshole? Just wondering...)


Oh yeah... LOL

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RE: Ads on this site. sigh.... - 6/22/2005 8:34:43 AM   
Isolde


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Status: offline 		I wasn't going to ask this for fear of offending someone but this has been nagging at me.

SirKenin, you seem to be brushing aside people's mention of your own perceived arrogance and with your consistant analysis of Emerald's profile and posts as arrogant, I was wondering... is it that you feel it's proper and expected of a dominant to express their arrogance, but not a submissive or slave? Do you find her more arrogant because she's singing her own praises, yet is a woman and so should be more humble?

I have to admit, after reading your post about being a virtuous woman, that last possibility is what's struck me as truth. I otherwise can't understand why her boasting would be so offputting to you when what you are pointing out as signs of her arrogance are no more evident than the signs displayed by a thousand dominants on this site. Including yourself.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here; I really am genuinely curious about the apparant contradiction.

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